Pledge of Allegiance (Game Over! Page 76)

[DrippingGoofball]

If it's a fake claim, it's a darned good one. The only way it's not true, actually, is if DDDD is actually a point grabber. Or Troll is in cahoots with DDDD, but as I've maintained for a while, I doubt Troll is on a team.

[Fishythefish]

I don't see why Troll can't just be scum/SK here.

[LlamaFluff]

Im confused as to if fishy is scrambling for his life (since Troll telling the truth results in his death if he survives) or really doesnt believe the claim, or some mix of each.

Either way SC is almost certaintly not-other. I really hope I dont have to explain that read.

[Zorblag]

@Fishythefish, it did occur to me, yes. I chose between shooting at you or shooting at popsofctown. I could have waited for a claim but, like I said, I was as sure as I needed to be that popsofctown wasn't scum, you were likely to be lynched regardless and I don't really care how members of the government die (if you were one I could just be part of a wagon that lynched you and blend in well enough that way and you'd still be out of the game which is all I need) and I think that people assume that I take my time making decisions. By firing fast I helped throw anyone who does know me off my trail by a little bit. Incidentally, my first choice for today would have been to target myself for a snipe and have the secret service learn (incorrectly) that I wasn't the sniper but sadly that wasn't an option.

I need to outlive all the members of the government but it's going to take some time to do that regardless. popsofctown was going to be harder to rid of in the long run if he was government so he made the better shot right at the start of the day.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Fishythefish]

@Llama:
I'm sure my judgement is to some extent clouded by the fact that, one way or another, he's almost certainly going to put a bullet through my head in the next 24 RL hours - but do you not think it's at least very surprising that Troll would shoot at pops in the position he was in this morning? He seems to say that my wagon was going when he sent in the kill - surely anyone in that position would wait for my claim, knowing that he needed to shoot at non-hostile other?

EDIT: Zorblag's explanation isn't so bad. I suppose he could well have thought that my death would take care of itself.

Well, I guess I'm really actually dead this time . Be wary of Zorblag. Some people didn't like my tendency to vote for scum over SKs - Zorblag's motivation in this game is to take out a set of players who may well be predominantly protown.

[Zorblag]

Actually, my delay in posting was at least in part so that the secret service would be thrown off my trail by the timing of the shot and when I was about.

I took my role to be at least as much a matter of staying hidden at the time as being sure that I killed members of the government quickly. In most games I can stick around without getting too high or low on lists of suspicion better than I've managed in this one and I viewed my role more as that of a survivor with a puzzle to figure out rather than primarily being about the killing.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Fishythefish]

Zorblag is clearly real. Let's fruitlessly demand Nico claims until someone gets bored and hammers (N.B. this should be before deadline).

[LlamaFluff]

@Llama:
I'm sure my judgement is to some extent clouded by the fact that, one way or another, he's almost certainly going to put a bullet through my head in the next 24 RL hours - but do you not think it's at least very surprising that Troll would shoot at pops in the position he was in this morning? He seems to say that my wagon was going when he sent in the kill - surely anyone in that position would wait for my claim, knowing that he needed to shoot at non-hostile other?

Its not the way I would have played it, but its a perfectly proveable role. I ask you one last thing though, is it at all possible for a point gathering group to have a killing ability? If its true there is something that can benifit town and should get point gatherers quite a few points.

[Zorblag]

@Fishythefish, I'm not actually sold on my living till tomorrow at this point; now that I'm out in the open I assume that the secret service will be gunning for me if they've got the ability to.

I actually also think that it's probably Ellibereth as I don't know how (other than the information about who my targets would have been) he'd think he could confirm me. I'll be interested to hear from him after he's talked to Zoraster.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[LlamaFluff]

I really am getting just pulled all over the place by outguessing the mod stuff right now. If my guess is right, there are a few things that should be done that are awesomely awesome. If my guess is wrong... well im going to look really stupid.

[Fishythefish]

It is certainly possible for points gatherers to have a night kill. All I have to go by is my conditions - other people's could be radically different. Going by mine, a one shot NK would fit in just fine (there may even be one there), but a regular NK would skew the points towards one ability in an anomalous way. But there could be a points faction whose whole purpose is to shoot at town/scum/ducks.

Something I'll reiterate, lest it be forgot - my list of points factions is exhaustive. In particular, the Secret Service are not a points faction.

@Zor: oh yeah. Guess I live to fight another day. *Cheers on Secret Service*.

[Ellibereth]

If anyone is a member of the GOVERNMENT, but also TOWN-ALIGNED, please say so.
Gracias.

[Fishythefish]

Someone who isn't me and will be here in the morning should unvote. There may be stuff to be said before night should happen. (I can't do it because my Nico-is-scum-points depend on my being on the wagon)

[LlamaFluff]

how "government" is gov? We had parama flip something affiliated with a school which technically is gov funded. Would anything along those lines count?

[Fishythefish]

If I had to outguess the mod on this one, I'd say that you'd be pretty damn sure if someone was in the government. I'd speculate that's it's very unlikely Elli will get any (truthful) claimants.

[Zorblag]

@LlamaFluff, xvart was a part of the Legislature, one of the three brances of the US government. Fishythefish claims to be part of another branch.

I don't actually have any reason to think that members of the government couldn't be members of the town or mafia based on my role but I can confirm that I'm just gunning for members of the Executive, Judiciary and Legislature. That's how official I need them to be for my win condition.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[DrippingGoofball]

Someone who isn't me and will be here in the morning should unvote. There may be stuff to be said before night should happen. (I can't do it because my Nico-is-scum-points depend on my being on the wagon)

Wait wut

Do you KNOW that Nico is scum?

[Fishythefish]

No. But I judge it likely enough that I want the points from his lynch.

[zoraster]

Day 2 Vote Count

charter ( 0 )
Chronopie ( 0 )
d3x ( 0 )
Debonair Danny DiPietro ( 0 )
DrippingGoofball ( 0 )
Ellibereth ( 0 )
farside22 ( 0 )
fishythefish ( 2 ) RedCoyote d3x
Gammagooey ( 0 )
imaginality ( 0 )
Jack ( 1 ) Shotty to the Body
StrangerCoug ( 0 )
LLamaFluff ( 0 )
Nicodemus ( 10 ) fishythefish UncertainKitten Debonair Danny DiPietro Jack imaginality Zorblag Chronopie farside22 popsofctown LLamaFluff
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 0 )
RedCoyote ( 0 )
Shotty to the Body ( 1 ) Nicodemus
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
Plum ( 0 )
Zorblag ( 6 ) Plum DrippingGoofball Gammagooey Ellibereth animorpherv1 charter
Not Voting ( 1 ) StrangerCoug
Total Votes ( 21 )

Deadline: May 24th at 11:00 EDT
With 21 able to vote, 11 needed to lynch.

[Ellibereth]

Troll, to my knowledge you don't have to worry about anything.
That's all I'll say, questions WILL NOT be answered, we'll talk about who you target tomorrow.

I'm fine with any hammerings now.

[Fishythefish]

I'd like it if I could not be killed before I've had a chance to speak tomorrow. There may be things arising from the night which are worth me mentioning.

[Zorblag]

Interesting. If I'm alive tomorrow we'll definitely have something to talk about. If I'm not then you'll get to talk to others I'd guess.

In that case, to the point factions out there, if you do have a night kill remember that I have to know who you are before I can kill you (or the town has to want me to try kill you which I'll be going along with from here on out.) Given the distributions I'm probably more likely to take out your competitors than someone from your faction (unless Fishythefish has been coy about his ability to kill.)

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Ellibereth]

Today is now tomorrow.

##Unvote

##Vote: Nico

[zoraster]

Day 2 Ends

Final Day 2 Vote Count

charter ( 0 )
Chronopie ( 0 )
d3x ( 0 )
Debonair Danny DiPietro ( 0 )
DrippingGoofball ( 0 )
Ellibereth ( 0 )
farside22 ( 0 )
fishythefish ( 2 ) RedCoyote d3x
Gammagooey ( 0 )
imaginality ( 0 )
Jack ( 1 ) Shotty to the Body
StrangerCoug ( 0 )
LLamaFluff ( 0 )

Nicodemus ( 11 ) fishythefish UncertainKitten Debonair Danny DiPietro Jack imaginality Zorblag Chronopie farside22 popsofctown LLamaFluff Ellibereth

animorpherv1 ( 0 )
popsofctown ( 0 )
RedCoyote ( 0 )
Shotty to the Body ( 1 ) Nicodemus
UncertainKitten ( 0 )
Plum ( 0 )
Zorblag ( 5 ) Plum DrippingGoofball Gammagooey animorpherv1 charter
Not Voting ( 1 ) StrangerCoug
Total Votes ( 21 )

Deadline: May 24th at 11:00 EDT
With 21 able to vote, 11 needed to lynch.

Nicodemus, Director of Homeland Security, the Vanilla Townie was lynched

Night 2 Happenings!

Jack, Grassroots Organizer, the Vanilla Townie was talked to death.

LlamaFluff, Traffic Cop, the Town Redirector took 9999 damage

Day 3 Begins Now!

Deadline is June 4th at 23:00 EDT. (Shorter Deadline to make it not end on a weekend).

[Chronopie]

Well that's a spanner in the works.

I'd investigated Jack, for a result of Town. I'd figured that since everyone considered Jack cult, that I'd check.