Pledge of Allegiance (Game Over! Page 76)

[DrippingGoofball]

I received a transmission, sadly, it is redundant. Jack was vanilla.

[UncertainKitten]

That was my assumption, Troll. After I found out that only my action on plum was redirected.

[UncertainKitten]

God
Dammit.

I didn't target Plum, I targetted Zorblag. Do you have any innate redirection in your "neutral vig" ability, Zorb?

(Zora screwed up my action since I made a last minute change)

[Zorblag]

The only ability that I've got is to take shots during the day that only kill if they hit someone in one of the three branches. If you targeted me then someone else cause the kill to go elsewhere. I could potentially see LlamaFluff redirecting kills from me to Jack though. Certainly more easily than I could see him redirecting kills from Plum to Jack. I should have been a tempting target for a number of people.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Fishythefish]

Actually, no, Troll. The only person who should have found you a tempting target was me, and the Secret Service if they've got my back.

[UncertainKitten]

Nah, if it was Llama he was specifically guiding my target from you to jack for some reason. I don't know what to make of that. At any rate, Llama would not be the only redirector or he'd have claimed he redirected Fishy, I'm pretty sure.

[UncertainKitten]

@Fishy: Suppose that there were a number of people targetting Troll before his claim and a bus driver wanted to do damage control?

Course, this is conjecture, fairly sure I was just directly redirected.

[Zorblag]

Or anyone that I've said I'm suspicious of who would be vulnerable to my kills. Or anyone who thought the town would want me to kill them today. If I can safely claim without people wanting to kill me then I'm somewhat suspicious of what's going on with the setup.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Ellibereth]

I'm confused.
Who targeted who and what happened? >.<

[Chronopie]

Well with Llama dead we can't ask, but it is possible that Llama choose to redirect UK specifically onto Jack.

[DrippingGoofball]

If I can safely claim without people wanting to kill me then I'm somewhat suspicious of what's going on with the setup.

Can you explain this more? Thanks ahead.

[UncertainKitten]

As I said, I don't understand why unless he was pretty damn sure of something about me. I would guess he thought I was a vig and didn't like Jack. Or something, idk.

[DrippingGoofball]

Well with Llama dead we can't ask, but it is possible that Llama choose to redirect UK specifically onto Jack.

UK? Why? That seems very odd.

[UncertainKitten]

Elli: Relevant factors is I was SUPPOSED to target Plum, found out Zora messed up and had me target Zorblag, and that it may or may not have mattered since my action hit Jack. Either I was personally redirected, likely by scum, or Zorb was bus driven. Or he has some cool redirect ability, but yeah.

[Chronopie]

@DGB: idk, but I checked Jack, got Jack, Plum got jack, Fishy's team got plum, and UK went for Plum? Zorblag? and got jack. therefore it's possible that a redirector (possibly Llama) either decided that any action point at Zorblag would be redirected, or targeted a specific player. /speculation.

But idk how it works, seeing as I'm a cop.

This game seems to be

very

PR heavy. /idle comment.

[Zorblag]

@DrippingGoofball, if no one other than those that I'm hunting care whether I'm alive or not then there's no great reason other than simply fear on my part for not claiming my role right at the start of the game. Sure I have to find people who are a bit more likely to be hiding from me but they've already got a survivor incentive built in to their point system if Fishythefish is to be believed. It's not like they would have been coming out anyhow. It is possible that I was given a safe claim just to make me less likely to make my role public early (and in fact I've speculated about that to Zoraster) but I'm still working with the assumption that there really should be something else in the game holding me back.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Chronopie]

@Zorblag: you'd had 6+ gunning for you straight away, had you claimed. afaic you're non hostile other. the government parties would consider otherwise.

Fyi: anyone gunning for zorblag ITT should be considered government other, thus a Zorblag-kill target.

[DrippingGoofball]

Fyi: anyone gunning for zorblag ITT should be considered government other, thus a Zorblag-kill target.

Indeed. Good point.

[Zorblag]

@Chronopie, I know that the members of the government would be happy to lynch me but they couldn't have pushed the issue for exactly the reason that you just gave. If someone's pushing for my lynch in a way that I don't think makes sense I can just try to shoot them. If I claimed right at the start then I might have had people be a bit reluctant to believe my claim at first but I have to imagine that I could have stayed alive long enough to have someone flip government. Once that happens (especially if I'm sniping them and get my flavor confirmed) I'm essentially safe from town from then on out. The mafia shouldn't have any reason to want to kill me offhand as I can't touch them unless they're also government (which I don't think they would be.)

Again, it could just be the fear of the secret service (reinforced by a safe claim for me) that was supposed to hold me in check but definitely feels like there should be something else.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Ellibereth]

People NOT voting xvart at wagon height: Coyote, Jack, Gamma, DDD, xvart, imagine, Parama, phate, Cobalt, DGB, d3x, Jazz, pops, shotty.
Removing obvtown/town/not gov: Coyote, imagine, Phate, d3x, Stranger, Shotty

People NOT voting Fishy at wagon heigh: UK, Jack, Nico, fishy, phate, shotty, imagine, pops, chrono, llama, elli, plum
Removing etc.: Phate, shotty, imagine

Llama mentioned that Stranger can't be GOV. Apparently there's some obv explanation I'm missing. Until then, he is.

UPDATED.

TOWN
Charter
Chrono
DGB
Elli
Gamma
UK
pops
farside
Plum
DDD
Ani

SNIPER
Troll

OTHER 1
Fishy
imagine

OTHER 2
(xvart)
Coyote

OTHER 3
Shotty
Stranger

SCUM
d3x

[DrippingGoofball]

My thoughts exactly. Let's get this show on the road.

## vote: d3x

[Chronopie]

I too concur.

##Vote: d3x

[UncertainKitten]

Sure, why not

##Vote d3x

[Ellibereth]

Fishy, is Imagine or Shotty your buddy? If so, say so NOW.

##Vote: d3x

[Gammagooey]

Huh. Troll's claim seems pretty weird but Elli apparently confirms it SO.

D3x lynch isn't bad but Shotty doesn't have a single decent post in everything that's happened so far, I'd prefer him to be SuperDead^TM.

I'd like for Troll to shoot Shotty. If Shotty is still alive (aka not Other) he needs the noose today.