Pledge of Allegiance (Game Over! Page 76)

[Shotty to the Body]

EBWOP: And by the post that makes me nervous I mean the Secret Service bit from Shotty to the Body.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

Only because you're a terrorist!

[Shotty to the Body]

Oh yeah, none of us will out our partners because we lost points if they claim. Just a heads up.

[Shotty to the Body]

And Zorblag will probably shoot them, but that's beside the point.

[d3x]

d3x claims to have attempted a transmission to Chrono, which is interesting as I did so successfully.

Technically, Plum would've gotten/lost us points as she received the info.

if I were to tell you at the beginning of day 2 you (very likely) had more than 0 points, would you be able to confirm someone as town/scum? What if I told you it was less than 0?

This would interest me greatly. I did not use any abilities that would've gained or lost points for my faction {neither did my partner{s}, to my knowledge}. We targeted no one N1 and there was no Lynch D1.

I score boarded today.

That's what I'm waiting on from the Mod. I did this as well.

[Fishythefish]

Hang on... are you claiming you can be 100% sure that you were on 0 points at the start of day 2, and that you are from The Executive? Please check your role PM carefully before answering.

[Shotty to the Body]

Lol that would mean we both transmitted to scum.

[Fishythefish]

Shotty; do you now have a ranking then?

If I were to tell you that at the beginning of day 2 you had +ve points/-ve points, would you be able to confirm town/scum?

[Fishythefish]

I'm sure this doesn't need saying - if it's not obvious, at this stage it is likely that we can get alignment information out of these rankings (even just mine from the start of D2). Shooting a point scorer now would be an incredibly bad move.

[Fishythefish]

@d3x: you say you don't know if your partner(s) targetted anyone N1. This is a very important point; could you check with (t)he(m), or the mod if that's possible?

[Zorblag]

@Fishythefish, now that I'm outed my shoot early strategy is done with. I won't be winning today anyhow so I'm all for you three coming up with what you want to tell us before I take any actions. I might not be officially town but I've got no reason to work against their interests by acting as a loose canon at this point. Plus, I'm particularly interested to see if any of you try to generate numbers that show that someone must be lying about them. More information should help me in the long run just like it should help town.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Chronopie]

I'm not sure how I'd affect the point boards.

I'm checking in with the mod as to how close I can paraphrase without rule infraction.

[Chronopie]

I don't think Zoroaster is on right now

So I'll hold off on saying anything, until I receive a PM.

[d3x]

@d3x: you say you don't know if your partner(s) targetted anyone N1. This is a very important point; could you check with (t)he(m), or the mod if that's possible?

Considering I was able to use the Weak Watcher last night, I'm 100% sure that my teammate{s} did not use a communal ability. I'll check to see if abilities were used aside from those I have been made aware of, but as I said, my partner{s} has{ve} forgotten that we have the ability to Day Talk.

Further, considering there was no Lynch D1, there is no way that my faction could've scored/lost any points D1/D2. Only last night and yesterday did my side have the potential of gaining/losing points by our own merit. The only possibility for us to have gained points is through something not of our own doing. I think it's time you shared your findings, Fishy.

[d3x]

EBWOP: Further, considering there was no Lynch D1, there is no way that my faction could've scored/lost any points D1/D2 {aside from abilities unknown to me}.

[Shotty to the Body]

Shotty; do you now have a ranking then?

If I were to tell you that at the beginning of day 2 you had +ve points/-ve points, would you be able to confirm town/scum?

I have the scoreboard from after last night, should be able to. The transmit roleblock was our first action.

[Shotty to the Body]

EBWOP: rolecop*

[DrippingGoofball]

@DrippingGoofball, did your transmission tell you that Jack was vanilla townie or just vanilla?

Just vanilla, actually.

[Zorblag]

@DrippingGoofball, yeah, that makes sense. I hadn't gotten the transmitted rolecop claim yet and a transmitted cop result was much more powerful than the weak tracker/weak watcher transmissions. The role cop part perhaps mitigates that somewhat (though it still seems a bit strong.) Do you have anything to declare about your alignment at this time? It sounds like the point factions think they'll be able to tell us what it is in a bit; any startling reveal probably sounds better if it comes from you ahead of time.

@Plum, would you like to confirm that it was Chronopie that you got your transmission about? I think that you left that vague. Same question to you about alignment reveal as DrippingGoofball just got.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[farside22]

Hi I'm still reading a few things here but I can verify that Plum went to Shotty. I wasn't going to say anything since I didn't see anything scummy in view of Plum seeing Shotty.
I need 3 pages to catch up on but more read of people is necessary.

too many things being thrown at me at work as well.

[charter]

Alright, caught up again and I'm not going to let myself fall behind again. Does anyone have a handy list of claims we've gotten? I think I've forgotten more than I remember.

Ellibereth says he's a member of the Secret Service right after Zorblag's claim.

Aside from everyone saying 'soandso is scum and someoneelse is town', there's really nothing else to comment on, this game has virtually no scumhunting, just people talking about points.

I'm ready to claim... as soon as charter tells us all what he did last night.

Targeted Llamafluff.

I think we should massclaim. I think it will net multiple scumbags and will force all these point grabbers to claim. I can think of at least two ways that scum will immediately be caught lying about their role, regardless of what lie they come up with. I'm not sure how well it will catch hostile others.

[farside22]

vote: charter

I would like to hear more on what you targetted Llama with right now.

[charter]

I'm not telling what I targeted him with, unless we massclaim. I didn't kill him.

[Fishythefish]

@Shotty: are you also saying that there is no way you could have scored any points on D1/N1 (since there was no lynch and you used no abilities)?

[Zorblag]

@farside22, you'll still need the ## for your vote to count. Also, why did you track Plum last night?

I support the mass claim idea; even though everyone knows what my motives are I do feel that there's enough information floating out there for the town with all the investigative roles that we could benefit from trying to piece it together as a group. I'll still be surprised if all the investigative roles are town but it's not clear at this time whether that makes them all that more likely to lie about their information. I'd suggest a flavor claim in addition to the role but then again I think that my targets don't have a fake claim so I'm biased.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Fishythefish]

@d3x: sharing my findings now would likely make claiming easier for at least one scumbag.