Mini 961: Insane Asylum II: GAME OVER :O!

[magnus_orion]

I would have expected townElli to show better evidence that he had read the thread. All we got is MY WAGON HAS SCUM and unexplained town reads IIRC.

Clarify what you mean by "better evidence" did you feel there was something TownElli would've commented on in particular that wasn't?
Elli explained those reads...
Also, to clarify, technically, you didn't have meta supporting that elli would play this way as scum, correct?


So... can I get a straight answer to "who are your top suspects atm?"?

[magnus_orion]

EBWOP: simulposted... just got an answer to last question, the others stand

[Iecerint]

EBWOP: She is historically fairly good at judging me, and she has some implicit meta tell on me this game that doesn't make any sense to me. And she only started to be suspicious of me after I said nice things about her (which isn't a buddying fear response for Iec->DGB, because I do that in every game I play with her, and that is not the typical response when we're both town.

[UncertainKitten]

The Twentieth "Comfortably Numb" Vote Count

"I...have become...comfortably numb!"

Mod Note: Seriously, I should just link a playlist with "The Wall" and call it good .

1. magnus_orion (0)
2. StrangerCoug (0)
3. SocioPath (1): farside22
4. farside22 (0)
7. Tarhalindur (0)
8. DrippingGoofball (0)
9. Haylen (0)
10. Iecerint (1): DrippingGoofball
11. Dramonic (0)


Not Voting (7): Haylen, SocioPath, Dramonic, Tarhalindur, magnus_orion, StrangerCoug, Iecerint

Prod Clock (New): 30 hours.
Players still needing to respond to prod: No One

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline is in 13 days at 10:00 PM EST, Tuesday, June 8th, 2010

[Iecerint]

Clarify what you mean by "better evidence" did you feel there was something TownElli would've commented on in particular that wasn't? Elli explained those reads...

For example, I might have expected posts reflective of a comprehensive readthrough followed by a tiered scumlist. Or something. I have no recollection of a satisfactory explanation from Elli for his town reads, but I may be mistaken. I mostly recall lots of joking around.

Also, to clarify, technically, you didn't have meta supporting that elli would play this way as scum, correct?

I have never played with scumElli, nor have I read a game with scumElli. So I didn't have reason to believe that Elli would play THIS way, no. I did have reason to believe he would be a different Elli as scum, though.

[StrangerCoug]

I have a big explanation to make.

Last night, the mod PM'd me asking me to reread the role since she believed I misunderstood it. (She actually did it twice, the other time during Day 1 shortly after my claim, but I failed to see the big deal about it.)

Apparently, I am balanced by a points system. Each kill I make costs me a point. I am not a true limited-shot role as there is a way I can earn points (actually a necessity since I start at zero)—I somehow have to draw kills to me.

I tried to kill SocioPath last night without ever having earned points. And since I claimed nightkill immunity, without the right roles in the game I won't be able to get any. Basically, I hate myself.

[farside22]

Whatttt???? ^^

[magnus_orion]

... how do you even...

[StrangerCoug]

They're buried in there. I know how the two of you feel.

[Iecerint]

How could anyone possibly be that careless, especially given two alleged Mod warnings?

Post time stamps on the alleged PMs if UK will let you.

That would be a modkillable offense. Too close to quoting mod correspondance, or faking it.

[farside22]

I'm so confused.
SC: Are you saying your immune to NK and can only kill if someone tries to kill you to get points in order to kill?

[StrangerCoug]

How could anyone possibly be that careless, especially given two alleged Mod warnings?

Post time stamps on the alleged PMs if UK will let you.

"Warning" connotes a rule violation to me, but I'll ask if I can post timestamps.

I'm so confused.
SC: Are you saying your immune to NK and can only kill if someone tries to kill you to get points in order to kill?

Exactly. Unless there's a sane doctor, a dayvig, or a redirector, I'm screwed.

[StrangerCoug]

EBWOP: Or a bus driver, but that's a redirector-type role.

[Iecerint]

A dayvig would probably kill you, though, right? So. Uh. Be careful what you wish for.

[StrangerCoug]

...I fail.

Mod: This isn't some sort of payback for SWN II, is it?

Hey, didn't I win that one? And don't ask me what role you have in public, I have no idea, I just know someone stole my teddy bear >=[!

[farside22]

SC: At the time of this comment from the mod did you think maybe I should reread my PM? Did you not heed the warning? Did you think nothing of it? Also can you not talk during the night chat?

[StrangerCoug]

Which time around?

[farside22]

Which time around?

During your day 1 claim. you stated the mod sent you a PM. Did you see it then and reread your role? Or ask the mod a question or anything for clarification? If not why?

[StrangerCoug]

Which time around?

During your day 1 claim. you stated the mod sent you a PM. Did you see it then and reread your role? Or ask the mod a question or anything for clarification? If not why?

I saw it and reread. She thought I didn't understand how I was a modified miller vig. While I did pick up on information I overlooked then, I didn't see any cause for concern, which is why I said nothing about doc and kill sanities until Glork asked about the latter.

[StrangerCoug]

No go on the timestamps.

[Iecerint]

She's awfully strict. Everyone's always let me give them.

Estimate, then.

[StrangerCoug]

I gave estimates already. See post #605.

[Iecerint]

Ugh, is that the best you can do?

Well, it's unlikely to get too far, anyway. UK posted elsewhere on the site an hour before and 20 minutes after his claim. If anyone had outstanding PMs from UK received at that point, that might confirm his circumstances. But it's a longshot.

I'm slightly skeptical in that he doesn't appear to have worked very hard or to've haggled much with regard to leeway associated with the timestamps. Were I in his situation, I would have seen whether I could do something like "around 10 o clock" at least. But this is also UK we're talking about, so....

[StrangerCoug]

If I receive notification that I'm allowed to get more specific than I have, I'll do so.

I suppose that, if I hypothetically were to PM you anything, you could claim the hour. Fair enough?

[SocioPath]

This talk of timestamps is dumb.

SC basically screwed up his role by claiming too much, that much is clear.

What I was concerned with was his NK choice, which was what I originally thought he would choose.

I believe everything he has said at this point though, the role he is claiming today is much more of a likely UK-modding role than what was said yesterday.

Basically though, SKSC is no threat, and VIGSC is more like BPSC.

No one is going to target SK to prove his role when they would just make the kill themselves.