Pledge of Allegiance (Game Over! Page 76)

[RedCoyote]

So, uh, who is Fishy's partner?

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Are they dead or did they just lose their votes? VC immediatly afterwards is confusing.

[charter]

##vote DGB

Not government but still other. Her claim is really dodgy and probably just made up.

[zoraster]

Are they dead or did they just lose their votes? VC immediatly afterwards is confusing.

dead.

[DrippingGoofball]

##vote DGB

Not government but still other. Her claim is really dodgy and probably just made up.

I don't kill people at night. YOU do.

##vote charter

[UncertainKitten]

Just a vig at night, but I can shoot anyone I damn well please ^-^.

[farside22]

Okay so I just realized something while looking at those that claimed. Before I bring out my someone is scum between DGB and RC comment I need to know if DDD claimed his full role

*checks*
Yup he claimed vanilla townie.
Okay so here is the issue. The person who targetted RC (fishy) stated he never RB'ed RC. Now whether that is true or not is up for debate but DGB is claiming that she has been RB for 2 nights in a row but no one is claiming to be a RB.
So this means one scum has a roleblocking ability and is lying, but if this true why was RC blocked and DGB blocked both N1 and no one is claiming to do either block? Blocking RC N1 would not have looked scummy either.
So is RC lying or is DGB lying? Or do we think there is 2 anti-town RB's?
Again RC was under some pressure and some found not town so why wouldn't someone claim to have RB'ed him?

Thoughts on this view would be appriecated.

[UncertainKitten]

I think you have quite a point there. I would favor DGB lying, though RC lying is also possible.

[charter]

I think it's pretty clear DGB would be the liar between the two when you take in to account the role she claimed. It's patently ridiculous and doesn't fit in with any other claim we've had. RC getting blocked night one seems kind of odd, but it's also pretty possible that a roleblock got redirected or bussed to him.

Plus, she just now votes me after I vote her? Please.

[DrippingGoofball]

Just a vig at night, but I can shoot anyone I damn well please ^-^.

WE don't have two vigs, that include an unlimited dayvig.

We have an unlimited dayvig, and a SK.

You are the SK.

[charter]

I think you have quite a point there. I would favor DGB lying, though RC lying is also possible.

Way to say nothing.

[DrippingGoofball]

I think you have quite a point there. I would favor DGB lying, though RC lying is also possible.

Way to say nothing.

She's the SK. There is NO WAY that we have an unlimited dayvig (which has been proven by Troll's deliciously murderous rampage), AND a "night" vig in a nightless game. I call SK. This is FINAL.

My vote isn't moving.

## vote: UncertainKitten

[UncertainKitten]

See, I love how DGBScum is painting me as an SK while

VERY CONVENIENTLY

ignoring the fact that

TROLL CAN ONLY SHOOT GOVERNMENT SUCCESSFULLY

MEANING, that there is still room for a general vig to shoot others and mafia.

Thanks for proving yourself scum, DGB. The bullet will be coming in the mail.

Also, charter, quite right, sorry about the useless post. I of course believe DGB to be lying and she's just further digging the whole deeper as she keeps "missing" obvious things.

I'm going to shoot her. I'm voting you at the moment because I still don't think the track result/doubled role situation should be ignored.

[charter]

I also find it extremely suspicious of UK to only vote me AFTER I claim my role and she cites not believing my explanation of what a motive cop is. Before I claimed my role, she was even speculating as to possible roles I could be. But then when Plum confirms that I'm telling the truth about what a motive cop is, she still is calling me scum. Doesn't make a bit of sense.

Anyhow, I think we have scum/hostiles in DGB, UK, Pops, farside, and Strangercoug.

[UncertainKitten]

It's actually perfectly logical.

First, I thought you were scum cause the motive cop thing seemed far fetched. Well, turns out that isn't the case. However, having the EXACT SAME ROLE you have claimed by someone else? How interesting. And I believe I'm on record for considering most of the doubled pairs to have scum in them. I really fail to see how my vote for you is "funny" at all, actually. I also find it REALLY funny that you call it funny without considering all the facts. How disturbing.

And you targetted Llama. Far as I know Plum didn't. So, I'm forced to consider you more likely to be the scum in that pair.

[DrippingGoofball]

Anyhow, I think we have scum/hostiles in DGB, UK, Pops, farside, and Strangercoug.

I'm neutral and I don't kill people at night.

Again, there is NO WAY that we have a MULTIPLE-shot dayvig AND a "night" vig - this is a freakin' nightless for chrissakes, how much more fakeclaiming SK can you hope for?

I don't care if Troll can only gun down government. He can gun down MULTIPLE players (that explains why his play was "luminous," hey!), there is no "night vig."

What there is, is a Serial Killer.

Now, that, we got.

UncertainKitten.

[UncertainKitten]

I use night loosely, of course, if that's your issue.

Again, I really don't understand your fucking retarded logic DGB. could you try to explain again how this is at all unbalanced, ESPECIALLY when the "unlimited dayvig" is...you know, NEUTRAL? In a game with at least SIX Neutrals?

Do you think Town really has that much chance WITHOUT a vig?

Again, keep at it DGB, keep showing how utterly stupid your logic is.

[UncertainKitten]

Also, DGB, if you are a "neutral", why did you lie about your role? It's REALLY transparently obvious you are lying. So, what gives?

[Chronopie]

Fishy never cleared up what N1 action his group used... It could have been a roleblock.

Would the last government other please claim, Zorblag promises not to shoot you today.*

*

I have no control over Zorblag

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In other news, I believe that UK is a vig, not an SK. Although an SK would explain why there's a hostile other category, seeing as there's been no hostile other flips

yet]

.

[popsofctown]

Okay so I just realized something while looking at those that claimed. Before I bring out my someone is scum between DGB and RC comment I need to know if DDD claimed his full role

*checks*
Yup he claimed vanilla townie.
Okay so here is the issue. The person who targetted RC (fishy) stated he never RB'ed RC. Now whether that is true or not is up for debate but DGB is claiming that she has been RB for 2 nights in a row but no one is claiming to be a RB.
So this means one scum has a roleblocking ability and is lying, but if this true why was RC blocked and DGB blocked both N1 and no one is claiming to do either block? Blocking RC N1 would not have looked scummy either.
So is RC lying or is DGB lying? Or do we think there is 2 anti-town RB's?
Again RC was under some pressure and some found not town so why wouldn't someone claim to have RB'ed him?

Thoughts on this view would be appriecated.

DGB is obvscum so it's not a very mysterious mystery.

[popsofctown]

I'm going to shoot her.

Nooooo you indecisive feline we need to lynch her and free you up to shoot whoever you want. DGB is the most obvious scum to grace this thread.

[UncertainKitten]

If we lynch her, I need to figure out who I'm shooting. I lean Charter, of course, but one of Farside/RC seems good also. Honestly, I'm still not sure whether to shoot charter or Plum, but the charter track is pretty damning and pushes him over for me.

So sure

##unvote
##Vote DrippingGoofBall

[DrippingGoofball]

In other news, I believe that UK is a vig, not an SK. Although an SK would explain why there's a hostile other category, seeing as there's been no hostile other flips

yet]

.

Look, I think you're probably town. But this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Why do you think UK is not a SK??? WHY? You're just pulling this out of your keister. You give no reasons. Because there are no reasons why you should believe that she is a vig.

Let me repeat, since you didn't catch it the first time.

- WE ALREADY HAVE A PROVEN VIG.
- and that proven vig shoots "infinite" targets.
- this is a NIGHTLESS game.
- UK is claiming NIGHT vig, why? because she needs to explain away how she'd be a second vig.
- Occam's razoe dictactes that she's a SK.

[farside22]

Ummm the flaw with what your saying is that zorblag only shots a certain type where as UK is a normal vig from what I'm reading. Also although there is no "night" when I track someone it's not for an action that they take during the day it's what they do during that twilight period.

[imaginality]

A DGB lynch makes sense to me. There's the 'unknown' bit of her claim and her claim to have been roleblocked twice (N1 I can believe, N2 I'm more doubtful of when there were multiple PRs outed at that point). From what the Others were saying, DGB and Chrono are probably the same alignment and neither is town. DGB's claimed Other, Chrono's claimed town. Probably they're both scum.

##Unvote
##Vote: DrippingGoofball