NY 114: Mafia vs. Werewolves (Game Over)

[Timeater]

The majority has spoken, bla bla bla, etc, bla

Lynch Chrono already.

[Parama]

Parama

No reason on his latest vote, just a vote, and begging to string up nhammen next. little suspicion voiced beforehand.

FoS: SC, LMP, Parama, and Nhammen

How quickly you change your mind once I turn against you.

[Timeater]

unvote

Vote: Chronopie

Don't remember switching.

[Timeater]

ugh

unvote

Vote: Chronopie

[animorpherv1]

Hello.

unvote

if Seraphim has voted already.

[Leafsnail]

Man, people are suddenly prepared to say a lot more when the noose is around their neck. I think we may be able to apply this principle to politics.

Chonopie's analysis makes no sense... he writes a lot on me, and I don't see why he doesn't FoS me considering how much he's disliked my attacks on him throughout the day. In fact, he seems to rag at everyone on his wagon and then FoS/ vote 5 random people from it.

He also calls Foilist's vote on him "reasoned", which I feel requires further examination tomorrow.

[Parama]

nhammen/foilist/chrono scumteam, I already told you guys this

[Dr. Robotnik]

Chrono hasn't put up a good defense, and he's digging a deeper hole, trying to claim that more than half his wagon is scummy. Vannilia town? Maybe. We'll see.

Vote:Chronopie

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[Chronopie]

If I haven't been hammered already...

Unvote, Vote:Chronopie

@Leafsnail: I fell that you are town, if misguided, thus no FoS.

@Vez: you read my saying in the wall that unsight called me ww. therefore why is it my slip? it would be more likely to be an unsight-mafia slip.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

*Epic facepalm*

-.- -sigh-

...self hammaerers....>:/

[Chronopie]

I told you I would. but as I count, it was OTT anyway (L+1)

[Midnight's Sorrow]

You do know people are

more likely

to ignore what you said in light of that right? -.-

Stressing more likely because it may just be my imagination....

That was much the uber fail >:U

[Chronopie]

Well that a townie hammered himself to stop the town wifoming itself into ignoring the info, and taking another 2 weeks to probably hammer me anyway, is a good thing. ofc it was probably ott anyway, unless I missed someone else's unvote.

[Faraday]

nhammen/foilist/chrono scumteam, I already told you guys this

this seems a bad guess.

plus there's 2 scum teams anyway it's pretty much assured.

eh waiting for the flip.

POM might be scum.

i might be v/la the next couple of days, my uncle's in hospital.

[nhammen]

Last post you said you find me town
You accuse Chrono of following me, implying I'm scum with Chrono.

Lolololol.

You know there are quite a few reasons scum would want to follow a player:
The scum is following a Town player so that he can say, but this Town player was doing it too. Or say, it wasn't my idea.
The scum is following a Town player to incriminate this player if the scum ever flips.
The scum is following a player so that they will blend in with others that follow this player.
The scum is following a scumbuddy.

It is interesting that you only considered the last one of those. Why?

@parama- not that nhammen isn't scum and all, but generally speaking the player doing the following is scum, but the player being followed not necessarily so.

Agree, but why haven't you answered my question yet?

Unsight's been backgroundish.

Quite so...

Are you kidding me? I don't know what mafia games you've played before, but the ones I played, scum lurked. Rarely did townies post less than scum. And are you shitting me? I'm the FIRST ONE who called out pman. I don't know where you ever had a suspicion of him before me? Might wanna read back on that. I read every freakin page and tallied up the posts. I really doubt you called out pman before me. Why do I think most scum lurk? Simple because its easier for them to post 6 posts like pman and say nothing. You can't even get an accurate read on a player if they don't post. I mean seriously pressure the bastards into playing then you can make them squirm and get a read. pman has done nothing. Why on earth would a townie lurk? Can you give me an answer to that? I mean seriously it'd be different if he was just busy and when he did post he posted analysis and it was just infrequent. But this guy posts "hold on i'm catching up" then never posts again? Like seriously?? At least contribute minimally or be replaced. It looks to me like pman is posting the bare minimum to not be prodded. I don't know how everyone else is fine with that. Where I played scum lurked. It wasn't a all scum = lurkers. But the majority of scum lurked.

A) experience on this site tells me that Town lurks just as much as scum. Yes, scum has motivation to do it. And yes, a player that is lurking is more likely to be scum that if they weren't lurking. But not by much. And I have never seen the entirety of a scumteam lurk.
B) I called out pman as a lurker on Fri May 21, 2010 1:27 pm
You called out pman as a lurker on Fri May 21, 2010 10:58 pm
Only 9 hours after I did...
C) I agree that pman is scummy. You don't need to argue with me there.
D) I was the only non-lurker you accused in that post. So you were saying that one scumteam consisted entirely of lurkers.

No selfhammering if you're town. Seeing who is prepared to hammer and who isn't prepared to hammer is useful information.

Exactly.



And now we get to chrono's wagon "analysis"... Mpstly just information, but there are a few opinions expressed. If he's scum, I'm pretty much ignoring this for WIFOM reasons.

How could Unsight knew he was a werewolf and not a mafioso?

That has to do with Unsight's role though... How would this be any reflection on chrono? If Unsight is ww, then its WIFOM. If Unsight is Mafia, then it means Unsight knows that they aren't the same alignment. If Unsight is Town, then it's baseless.

[Timeater]

i lol'd

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

So Chronopie, you gave up and self-hammered.

I honestly do hope you flip scum. Your game play was absolutely terrible from start to finish. Your death was completely and utterly well-deserved.

If you do flip scum, I will be looking harshly at Midnight's Sorrow for trying to buy you time to defend yourself when you were already doomed.

Oh and I'd like to tell you something. You just disrespected the mod of this game by giving up via self-hammer. If you self-hammer to kill yourself, you are a quitter. I suggest reading over your posts in this game in the future and I hope you facepalm.

[Parama]

SSBF, your tone is terrible.
The MS-Chrono link you're suggesting is complete nonsense.
And Chrono didn't self-hammer, he was more than dead by then.

SSBF is whatever scum faction that Chrono isn't IMO.

[Timeater]

Oh and I'd like to tell you something. You just disrespected the mod of this game by giving up via self-hammer. If you self-hammer to kill yourself, you are a quitter. I suggest reading over your posts in this game in the future and I hope you facepalm.

Double lol

[nhammen]

Oh and I'd like to tell you something. You just disrespected the mod of this game by giving up via self-hammer. If you self-hammer to kill yourself, you are a quitter. I suggest reading over your posts in this game in the future and I hope you facepalm.

Wrong. If he is scum, that was the correct play. It prevents the Town from gaining more information from interactions.

If he is Town,

then

it was incorrect. But I still don't see how it "disrespects the mod". And that is all I will say about that here. Maybe you should have read through the thread in MD... I thought you posted in it.[/Theory]

[Chronopie]

Yes I was past dead by the time of self voting. I was either the L+1 or L+2 vote.

SSBF is whatever scum faction that Chrono isn't IMO.

But I thought there were two factions.

oigetit SSBF is a mafia-werewolf, to counter vez being a mason-monk. /sarcasm

@Mod: Lynch scene please.

[Parama]

Chrono are you third party or something? You sound like it.

[Chronopie]

I wish I were a jester, would fit my play.

I alternate claim 6-shot BP, lynchproof, Unlimited Daykilling SK.

Daykill: EVERYONE, and MSH twice

jk

[Parama]

Too late, you're dead.

[Chronopie]

Lynch proof was part of the Crapclaim.