Mini #73: Prosaic Mafia (The End)

[Stewie]

Actually, I think you misunderstood, the tradition is to say "welcome to mafiascum" at the end of the first post, not to give the second vote to someone.

Random

vote: bigben

[Stewie]

don't blame me, blame www.random.org and the fact that this is your first game.

[Stewie]

ok.

unvote bigbenwd, vote; phoebus

simply because we have too many new players, and I think massive's suspicion is quite interesting.

[Stewie]

I personally want phoebus to claim, since he's the only thing we have to go on to.

[Stewie]

Since we seem to be going after bigben, so be it. But if claim is believable, we shoudl go after primoris. I think that if we lynch him, we can asume that phoebus is scum too. One shot vigi is too much of a convinient claim. You just have to kill one person and say the mafia/sk were blocked by doc, and then from that moment say the kills have nothing to do with you.

[Stewie]

First off all, you should claim. Second, if we do lynch, there is a chance we kill a mafia. But if we don't, there is no chance. If we don't do anything today, why should we do anything tomorrow? If we miss, at least tomorrow we will have the choices narrowed down. If we lynch scum, there's going to be one less to kill, which is usually 2 more in games this size.

[Stewie]

or that none of them were online at the moment.

unvote bigben

I got a similar role. but the PM wasn't just "you are powerless pro-town" Eventhough he didn't give me a name for my role, you could take it out of the small storyline he gave me. I think that you should be able to do tell what you are aswell. Until then, I'll keep an FOS on you.

[Stewie]

I did not ask,since it said pro-town and in no part of it an ability was described. But i see how a new player would want to make sure s/he undertands the role correctly. The pm has a bit of background story of your character, which bigben could use to claim, which is why I kept an FOS on him, but other than that,it says that I'm pro town. And that's it, nowhere on the pm it says whether I was townie or something else.

[Stewie]

*points to first page* I don't think we're supposed to refer to the role pms under punishment of modkill. Just saying...

That only happens when you quote the mod. I am not really quoting the Pm, just explaining it's setup with my own words.

[Stewie]

Was I really voting for him still..? Oh, yeah... Well, I was going to unvote anyways, so it doesn't matter. The point is, I believe bigben's claim.

[Stewie]

well, maybe he got another role, like vigilante. Of course this is an asumption and there is a chance of him being scum.

[Stewie]

phoebus-primoris are suspicious to my eyes.

[Stewie]

vote thegood

what is your logic? First, you back someone up, and then, with nothing drastic to change your opinion, you vote for him? Explain.

[Stewie]

I agree with talitha. Thegood said the pm was vage way after I did.

Vote: thegood

[Stewie]

You know, it does make a lot of sense, since mafia usually claim vigi (at least I would) and primoris is protecting him a lot, so if he turns up to be scum we know who to follow, but we already got a claim out of him. Since primoris is suspicious for backing him up so much (I don't believe phoebus, but if we kill him, we would kill a strong pro-town role) so I will

Vote: primoris

and hope someone hops on with me.

[Stewie]

unvote primoris, vote phoebus

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Not much to think about in there.

[Stewie]

Yoko, got any interesting results in?

[Stewie]

I'll take that as a no.

Vote: primoris

for overprotecting phoebus.

[Stewie]

I think that talitha and FD are probably the two remaining mafia, not because of suspicions, but because I think that the rest are quite cleared. DB always wanted phoebus dead, and so did I. Yoko came out as cop, and pointed towards phoebus. Primoris was extremely suspicious, and still is (could be godfather). But the 2 not cleared at all are talitha and FD. I still consider that primoris could be GF, and want him to roleclaim.

[Stewie]

However, doctors can't protect themselves in most cases, simply because they would protect themselves each night. I think FD is still suspicious.

Unvote: primoris, vote: FD

[Stewie]

if you are a backup cop or overachiever, this would be a great time to come out.

[Stewie]

Talitha: yes, I'm a townie.

*crosses fingers*

[Stewie]

If I say who is the most scummy to me, and that person happens to not be mafia, the mafia wouldn't kill him/her, and we would lynch him/her, and we would lose.

Vote: no lynch

To narrow it down to 50% chance of getting a scum. We only get to lynch a person once, so why not make it easier?

[Stewie]

I can't see why me not being here would slow down the town. in my opinion, you are the most suspicious just for making that comment. That, plus Darkblade was voting for phebus from the begining, and primoris is confirmed by the cop, which also hints to the fact that he is more likely to be killed than me.

[Stewie]

Well, thalitha, primoris and I are the 2 that are pretty much cleared. Either of us is going to die this night. I disagree on darkblade claiming, he might have a good role, and making him claim will not give us the advantage of the scum having the doubt.

I can't see any flaw in the no-lynch plan. There's only one killing group, that's for sure, and if you ask me, outsider doesn't look too suspicious.

It doesn't matter if you have me here or not, since you need all players to vote for a player to lynch him/her (exept the player him/herself). That means you can still lynch without me here.

[Stewie]

So you think I just "guessed" that the townie PM was vage, and that bigben was townie? I do see your point (If I was scum with the ability to do that, I would try to get no lynch to win the game, or I could also be the traitor, trying to get talitha lynched tomorrow) but I got more points in my favour, and to tell you the truth, 2 to 4 are really not likely. This seems like a normal mini to me, just with twisted storyline to make it interesting, and give both mafia and town some clues. Now, I agree that only 2 mafia is kind of unbalanced for them, but this is an 11 player game, and the most logic way to balance it is a generic godfather.

[Stewie]

Either backup cop, townie or mafia.

I really don't thinkk primoris can be godfather. I mean, if he was, why did he kill the cop? It really doesn't make sense. So it would be between talitha and darkblade for me, but I'm leaning towards talitha. however, unless someone claims scum I'll keep my vote where it is. Risky? yes. But it's also risky to lynch someone if there's a chance to narrow down the choices. If for some reason nobody follows me in this, I'll vote for talitha.

[Stewie]

The idea of scum having role PM's is rather ridiculous. That would highly unbalance the game in the scum favour.

About me trying to get primoris to talk instead of phoebus, is because phoebus claimed vigilante, and the rest of the town felt unconfortable lynching a claimed vigilante, so I thought that since primoris was overprotecting phoebus, there was a connection there.

I too don't think that primoris is defenetly not the godfather, I was just saying it is unlikely.

I think no lynch is a good idea because it would narrow down the choices, but if you all think it's a terrible idea for some reason, I'll change my vote. But just the fact that nobody is supporting me makes me think that the scum would get nothing out of a no lynch (otherwise the scum would be supporting me).

[Stewie]

Talitha, I don't think that there is a traitor and a mafia left. If there was, even if we lynch right there would be 1 scum left, and 2 townies, the scum kills the townie, and it's one on one. Mafia win already.

I changed my mind, I'd like DarkBlade to claim before we end the day.

Unvote

[Stewie]

*Cough*

[Stewie]

Well, since we have a deadline I will

vote: darkblade

since he keeps evading a roleclaim. He does not even say "It is not wise, you'll know why tommorow," he just ignores the subject completly.

[Stewie]

Unvote: darkblade

I would too like the deadline to be removed.

Now, primoris is my main subject, but thalitha is not off the hook yet. Darkblade seems pretty townish.

[Stewie]

Shall I put the final vote on?

[Stewie]

[/b]vote: primoris[/b]

Boy, am I going to look stupid if darkblade ends up to be the last scum...

[Stewie]

vote:primoris

[Stewie]

I would also look stupid in this situation. Actually stupider, since it's the second time I lose as town against her.

Good job scum.