Mini 945: Mafia in Bawlmer - GAME OVER

[StrangerCoug]

How is it that nobody pointed out that confirmed miller = confirmed cop? I missed it because I'm dumb but there are five players here.

Hmm. Interesting thought.

[Ythan]

How is it that nobody pointed out that confirmed miller = confirmed cop? I missed it because I'm dumb but there are five players here.

Hmm. Interesting thought.

Please tell me this is the first of many posts you intend to make in response to everything that's happened since you were last around.

[StrangerCoug]

I try not to repeat stuff already said. What do you want my opinion on?

[Ythan]

You don't really seem to be sweating your impending lynch, even though if you're town you know that it will cost your faction the game.

[StrangerCoug]

I thought my being a gambler was clear to you. Only scum should be putting their life first, and since I'm convinced Cyberbob is scum, most likely with Netopalis, my money is where my mouth is. He was quick to vote Netopalis for almost nothing, and since he dodged my question at 746, I'm still debating whether he is actually scumhunting right now.

[Netopalis]

Look, I don't care which of SC or Cyberbob we lynch. If you'd feel more comfortable going after Cyberbob, let's go after Cyberbob. From my perspective, it doesn't matter who we lynch, as long as it's one of the two, since they must both logically be scum if ML's claim is true. Yeah, there could be a godfather out there. I guess it's possible...but I think this is our best shot. Tell you what - I'll even take the risk of loss. Jail me and have ML investigate whoever we don't lynch. If it comes up with an innocent and a no kill, let's no lynch and try it again. If you still can't come up with a result...well, I'll have to leave it in your hands. I understand that it would look bad, and I would understand if you decided that you needed to lynch me...but we can turn this game around. We've had a horrid track record this game, and I'd prefer to lose fighting than to go into this in the dark.

[Ythan]

Only scum should be putting their life first

Wrong. This is lylo if you haven't been paying attention.

Cyberbob is scum, most likely with Netopalis

I guess you aren't.

[Ythan]

Would nolynching and trying again work?

[StrangerCoug]

Only scum should be putting their life first

Wrong. This is lylo if you haven't been paying attention.

I have been. I'm saying we should all still be on the offensive. Yes, there may be times where we should be on the defensive, but we shouldn't spend all of LYLO there. So unless, for example, Cyberbob not trying isn't damning for a reason other than he

HAS

been, my statement still holds.

[Ythan]

Are you aware that if you are town Neto and Bob are almost confirmed scum?

[StrangerCoug]

Didn't I say that, except slightly reworded?

[Amished]

Votecount 5.3

Cyberbob (1): StrangerCoug
StrangerCoug (1): Netopalis

Not voting (3): Ythan, MacavityLock, Cyberbob

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline is on June 3rd.

[Ythan]

I think SC is scum. If he's one of our three townies I don't think we're winning this one anyway. I'm ready for dusk.

[StrangerCoug]

I personally think the problem is that we've mostly been arguing in agreement with each other, Ythan. I still say Cyberbob is the one that cost us if he's town, but I did say I'm willing to die for my cause, and I'm willing to take the hit for it.

[MacavityLock]

Give me a bit more time. I think I can solve the game, if we coordination Ythan. I should have something in an hour or so.

[MacavityLock]

EBWOP: Yeah, "if we coordination". I grammar good today. "If we coordinate, Ythan."

[Ythan]

but I did say I'm willing to die for my cause, and I'm willing to take the hit for it.

How are you missing that if a town player is lynched today scum wins.

[StrangerCoug]

I'm not. If Cyberbob is town, then he misplayed his vig role and basically delayed what he made the inevitable. That also means, for obvious reasons, that I was wrong to go gung-ho after him.

If Cyberbob is lynched and he is town, game over. If I am lynched and I am town, game over. What makes you think this is not occuring to me?

[Netopalis]

Problem: If we no lynch and coordinate the jail, we can't confirm anyone as town. It just means that ML dies. Whichever scum is not jailed, if you do coordinate to hit one of them, will simply not carry out the kill and let the other one do it.

[Ythan]

I wasn't thinking of no lynching today, just possibly tomorrow. Also, I don't think the scum gets to pick who kills AFTER learning which gets jailed.

[MacavityLock]

Yeah, I don't think I can solve the game today. I think I can solve the game pending us lynching scum today. Stay posted, plan coming soon.

[Netopalis]

Well, the problem then is in coordination. The scum will just shoot for you, still leaving us with trouble. We must lynch correctly today.

[Ythan]

We definitely have to lynch today, and we have to hit scum. There's no question there.

[MacavityLock]

OK, I think I've built a reasonable plan, but it (a) requires coordination between Ythan and I, and (b) the less the scum know about it, the better. I think it could be manipulated by a roleblocker, a busdriver, redirector, or something like that. How do you think I should release this plan? To the general masses now? Coordinate tonight and then reveal tomorrow if I'm still alive?

Of course, as we all realize, no plan can guarantee a win right now. We have to lynch scum today.

[Netopalis]

If we lynch correctly today, my plan guarantees a win without mucking about with secrecy like that. If we don't lynch correctly today, your plan won't work either.