Mini 976: Purgatory Mafia Game Over

[flashstorm]

lets see how mmm comes up first.

[animorpherv1]

LOL, just at the moment he gets banned indefinatley.

[Shotty to the Body]

LOL, just at the moment he gets banned indefinatley.

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[animorpherv1]

LOL, just at the moment he gets banned indefinatley.

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http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 81#2293881

[Socrates]

You have got to be kidding me.

MMM better come up scum or I am going to tear my hair out.

*drowns in self doubt*

FYI: if he does, both Ani and MPR are probably town. I would look at Cow, Shotty, RestFermata and Pranadevil as a good starting point for scum buddies.

[Socrates]

Also, if he does flip town everyone better please go read mafia 958 and don't repeat the mistakes of that town. (Oddly, both Shotty and Has were in that game...)

[Shotty to the Body]

I was going to bring that game up. =\

[hasdgfas]

Also, if he does flip town everyone better please go read mafia 958 and don't repeat the mistakes of that town. (Oddly, both Shotty and Has were in that game...)

I agree with this. That game was incredibly awful, let's not repeat that. (and it's not that odd, we know each other IRL, so we're going to join games together).

Although I'm going to be honest, I'm not disappointed he's lynched. I voted him, which meant I was ok with him lynched, just always sucks when it's a simul.

[RestFermata]

Wow, didn't see that one coming. Let's hope for the best, then.

You know, I'm just going to go ahead and claim because I'm afraid we don't have enough information going into N1 and I don't want to hurt the town. I know this seems weird claiming in twilight, but I planned to claim soon (see post 42 for my crumb on that, disguised as advice to Socrates...note the italics), depending on how things panned out. I was hoping I wouldn't have to claim, and that my role could benefit the town and maybe pick off a few scum, but I'm afraid it'll backfire because I don't think I've come off as the strongest town player and I doubt the scum would target me anyway. It would seem more likely I'd get investigated or whatever and then BOOM.

I am Oscar Wilde, and I guess my role would be commonly called Paranoid Gun Owner. I'm scared that the Marquess of Queensberry (look it up if you want) will find me in Purgatory, so I will shoot the first person that visits me each night.

I hope this isn't too late. Oh, and I left a breadcrumb of my rolename in my first post as well with a classic Wilde quote.

"I don't know what the Queensberry rules are, but the Oscar Wilde rule is to shoot on sight." - Oscar Wilde

[Socrates]

How does the mod determine who the first person to visit you at night is?

[RestFermata]

There is usually an order of resolution that the mod decides. A doctor for example is going to protect before the mafia kills, otherwise the doctor would be useless, but I think the mafia kill is usually pretty early on the list, correct me if I'm wrong. I was hoping I might strike a balance, seeming just town enough that I wouldn't be investigated, but town enough that the mafia might kill me. There was also the issue of not wanting to be protected, so I didn't want to seem TOO town. I thought maybe the mafia would try to out-WIFOM the possible doctor and try and hit their secondary target. But I feel like I failed at that, and it was too much guesswork anyway. I can't read anyone's minds and I don't know the roles.

[hasdgfas]

How does the mod determine who the first person to visit you at night is?

^this

And you only shoot one person a night
that, honestly, doesn't make sense flavorfully OR mechanically.

I am not a fan of the early claim though, honestly. I feel like it's completely undermined any usefulness of the role. Why not give it one night?

bleh, feels like a town claim though, still gives me an uneasy feeling.

[RestFermata]

I shoot the first person that targets me. If no one targets me, I shoot no one.

What do you mean, it doesn't fit flavor-wise? Are you saying that Oscar Wilde doesn't scream "PGO"? You said earlier you didn't think there was any rhyme or reason.

I did want to give it one night. I really did, but I feel that I didn't do a good enough job of attracting the mafia. I suspect they'd have wanted to keep me around, because I feel like I came off kind of lurkish and scummy. The thing is, if I kill any townie, it's definitely some sort of power role, and I think if I were to have killed anyone tonight it would have been exactly that, a town-aligned power role.

[hasdgfas]

I'm scared that the Marquess of Queensberry (look it up if you want) will find me in Purgatory, so I will shoot the first person that visits me each night.

You're scared someone will find you, but you only shoot one person a night. It doesn't make sense to me.

[RestFermata]

You can take that one up with the mod, I guess. It ain't an exact quote, but that's what it says. Personally, I think it's a balance issue.I have a feeling this game has quite a few power roles. I could conceivably swing the balance of the entire game in one night if I blindly mowed down everyone who targeted me.

[Shotty to the Body]

I don't see any reason to disbelieve the claim right now, it's odd, but not totally outrageous in a theme game.

[hasdgfas]

bleh, feels like a town claim though, still gives me an uneasy feeling.

[Socrates]

Oh god I fucked up with my role. I'm going to be a miller tonight. I shoulda claimed =.=

[hp [leaves]]

Well, if MMM flips scum, this is going to be LEGEN-



wait for it




-DARY!

Simullynch is not awesome, though.

/watching too much MIMYM

[Battousai]

Vote Count:

Mysterious Mystery Man

-6- hp [leaves], MehPlusRawr, xvart, Socrates, ZazieR, Shotty to the Body

animorpherv1

-2- PranaDevil, flashstorm

PranaDevil

-1- animorpherv1

hp [leaves]

-1- hasdgfas

Socrates

-1- Mysterious Mystery Man

Not Voting

: RestFermata

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

Rule 14

[flashstorm]

This is effed up. I need to sleep on this.

[hp [leaves]]

has forgot to unvote hahahaha :DD

now this is awesome

Mod please replace MMM as he is banned indefinitely

[PranaDevil]

Hold on a minute...

Soc, you've been talking about your role all game without saying it (I really don't want you to either, and feel RF shouldn't have either).

There's since been some suspicion of you, and now you're telling everyone you're going to be a miller tonight? That doesn't fly with me, that sounds like you're trying to give a reason for a cop not to investigate you, or for you to have a reason that you come up scum if a cop did do so.

I don't like either of those reasons. Especially as if you had questions about the role you could have PM'd the mod and asked, rather than outright not knowing.

FoS: Socrates

If we were on almost any other forum I would point out the simul post as being curious (as preview can be used) but considering MS seems to have this lovely tendancy to go wonky at random intervals, it's impossible to really tell.

[ZazieR]

uhm, oops?
Sorry Prana >.<

Anyway, in response to MMM...
First of all, the part regarding the nameclaiming. There was discussion about wether we should do it or not. Prana brought up early that any rolename could fit any role in a very detailed version, including an example. You still thought it was a good idea, though you gave it a condition. Then Cow comes in, states again that it doesn't work and suddenly you're convinced that it doesn't work?
I really am interested how an undetailed (Is this a word?) could convince you better over a detailed explanation. Because I don't see how it could.

Secondly, the meta question if MPR had flipped in those ongoing games was only to see if he had. Because if he hadn't, it would be useless. (Eventhough it's always the case as you may not discuss ongoing games)
However, the best part about this comes in post 108. Here, MMM states that it's not an excuse. Yet who brought it up to call MPR a VI? (For those too lazy to check, it was MMM himself) Who's using it as an excuse again?

Last, the part of MMM stating that using one scumtell is scummy itself. Hypocrite. For a detailed version, look at his Soc vote. It was all based upon Soc attacking an 'easy target'. Yet now that somebody is using one scumtell to attack him, it's scummy. But when he does it, it's not? Yeah right.

Though I also liked the part where he goes after MPR, whom is now called scummy after he started to attack MMM, instead of being a VI.
I'm not going to say it to please Soc
Soc luckily brought it up, only in a different way.


Also, Soc, I'm apparently missing something. When did you state that you think MPR is town? I couldn't see it, yet MMM is stating it in an 'attack' against you.
Good example of MMM twisting words.


@Shotty
You were suspicious of Soc (post 117)? Since when? And why?


As stated earlier, somebody besides MMM was slowly getting my attention.
HP, I hope you are fine to wait a day for the whip, mhmmm?
Two reasons:
-When I stated it earlier, I wanted to wait to see what HP would do. In the post I saw from him, he didn't address the nameclaiming anymore. Which caught my attention as before that, it was announced that bringing the nameclaiming up would be seen as scummy. That's why I decided to wait. Because HP was in favor for a nameclaim, yet if he wouldn't bring it up, the nameclaiming wouldn't happen. I'd expect from HP-town to try and get the nameclaiming done as he thinks it helps town. Yet, nothing. Do, explain.
-HP is one of the players on the MMM-wagon. He's one of the three players who voted during the RVS against MMM. The others being xvart and MPR. MPR commented on the suspicion raised against MMM, though it was little. Xvart hasn't been online. Leaving HP. Twice commented afterwards. One to comment on the simulpost-lynch. The second time that it was a fluke due to Cow forgetting to unvote. I'm interested in hearing why he hasn't commented on anything regarding MMM, while keeping his RVS vote against MMM.

[Shotty to the Body]

He wanted to claim some sort of miller role D1 which makes him suspicious, but I don't believe he's scum.