Mini 967 - Mafia War (Over)

[Soundwish]

Vote: Exemption

I still think his jump on Me=Weird was highly indicative of opportunist scum.

[Snow_Bunny]

-Vote Count-

Amish_Charney (1) - Empking
Hrezs (0)
pman5595 (0)
horrordude0215 (0)
Soundwish (0)
Katsuki (0)
Stef (0)
deadjoker (0)
Exemption (1) - Soundwish
Empking (0)

Not voting - Amish_Charney, Hrez, pman5595, horrordude0215, Katsuki, Stef, deadjoker, Exemption

Deadline is on 11 June 2010.

[Unsight]

lolz everyone shot me. xD

Good luck town!

[horrordude0215]

Vote: Empking

Even though he knew it was required to be a majority lynch, he didn't hammer the Me= case, despite the fact that there was really no way any other lynch would happen.

FoS: Stef, Katsuki

Same reasons as above.

[Katsuki]

Vote Empking

Reasons given for AC vote are totally based on WIFOM. Either AC is indeed scum, or mafia NK'ed unsight to frame AC. Convenient way for mafia to frame a scummy-looking AC, and seems more like the later of the two possibilities I stated.

[Hrezs]

Vote: AC

Still feel the same about him. The kill does nothing to change my view(in any direction).

[Exemption]

Vote Empking

Reasons given for AC vote are totally based on WIFOM. Either AC is indeed scum, or mafia NK'ed unsight to frame AC. Convenient way for mafia to frame a scummy-looking AC, and seems more like the later of the two possibilities I stated.

vote Katsuki

Lol what?

I'm sure he just stated that he was voting for him because of the reasons that were posted day one.

At soundwish is there any other reason that you think am scum? You just keep saying the same thing again and again

[Katsuki]

... because of what happened D1 and between unsight and AC is what makes it WIFOM.

[Soundwish]

At soundwish is there any other reason that you think am scum? You just keep saying the same thing again and again

Repetition doesn't make it any less valid. And you haven't given me any reason to doubt my suspicion. The fact that you chose to attack the circumstances of my allegation rather than the allegation itself is noted.

[Exemption]

... because of what happened D1 and between unsight and AC is what makes it WIFOM.

Ok maybe I was a bit harsh.
I still don't see it, any chance you could explain.

Repetition doesn't make it any less valid. And you haven't given me any reason to doubt my suspicion. The fact that you chose to attack the circumstances of my allegation rather than the allegation itself is noted.

I doesn't make the accusation less valid no. But it makes the amount of scum hunting you do less valid. All you have done for ages is just say about how you believe me and Deadjoker to have gotten on that band wagon opportunisticly (if you can even call someone with a random vote and one serious one a wagon). surely if you think I am scum there must be more than one dodgy thing I have said/done.

[Soundwish]

I doesn't make the accusation less valid no. But it makes the amount of scum hunting you do less valid. All you have done for ages is just say about how you believe me and Deadjoker to have gotten on that band wagon opportunisticly (if you can even call someone with a random vote and one serious one a wagon). surely if you think I am scum there must be more than one dodgy thing I have said/done.

Well, lucky for you that I also find your current attempts to discredit my accusation by saying "all right, but what else have you got?" scummy.

And your point about whether you could call it a wagon is a bad one because your opportunistic vote makes it 3, which with 7 votes to lynch

is

a wagon of note.

More Exemption votes please.

[Empking]

Vote Empking

Reasons given for AC vote are totally based on WIFOM. Either AC is indeed scum, or mafia NK'ed unsight to frame AC. Convenient way for mafia to frame a scummy-looking AC, and seems more like the later of the two possibilities I stated.

What reasons are based on WIFOM?
My vote has absolutely nothing to do with the death?
Are you trying to misrepresent my vote?

[Empking]

Vote: Empking

Even though he knew it was required to be a majority lynch, he didn't hammer the Me= case, despite the fact that there was really no way any other lynch would happen.

Any reasons for me being the one your voting?

[Exemption]

I doesn't make the accusation less valid no. But it makes the amount of scum hunting you do less valid. All you have done for ages is just say about how you believe me and Deadjoker to have gotten on that band wagon opportunisticly (if you can even call someone with a random vote and one serious one a wagon). surely if you think I am scum there must be more than one dodgy thing I have said/done.

Well, lucky for you that I also find your current attempts to discredit my accusation by saying "all right, but what else have you got?" scummy.

And your point about whether you could call it a wagon is a bad one because your opportunistic vote makes it 3, which with 7 votes to lynch

is

a wagon of note.

More Exemption votes please.

Yer, so I would say I created the band wagon not joined it. I never said all right, I just didn't defend myself. The reason I started a band wagon on Me= was he seemed to want a quick lynch and was parroting reasons. I would not call this opportunistic as it put him under pressure to defend himself, which I believe he did not do well enough especially as he was town and should not be under the pressure of having to lie.

So what is your opinion on deadjoker now?

[horrordude0215]

Vote: Empking

Even though he knew it was required to be a majority lynch, he didn't hammer the Me= case, despite the fact that there was really no way any other lynch would happen.

Any reasons for me being the one your voting?

The whole "Angry Child" argument in the beginning was very scummy, I thought.

[Amish_Charney]

vote- Soundwish

Not happy with the rather barefaced trying to build a wagon out of nothing. Also, I don't see anything scummy with deadjoker's shift. Your play seems uninvolved and indicative of newbscummery.

[Soundwish]

AC:

1) I find it funny that a player with the title Goon is throwing out words like "newbscummery".
2) I'm actually an outed alt of a player with over 2500 posts.

I really do not understand why you guys don't want to put more pressure on this guy.

Exemption:

My opinion on deadjoker is the same as it was at the end of yesterday. He is my second suspect.

[horrordude0215]

I really do not understand why you guys don't want to put more pressure on this guy.

I'd be fine with putting pressure on him, but I'd rather look at the people who intentionally avoided hammering yesterday

[deadjoker]

Well, lucky for you that I also find your current attempts to discredit my accusation by saying "all right, but what else have you got?" scummy.

And your point about whether you could call it a wagon is a bad one because your opportunistic vote makes it 3, which with 7 votes to lynch is a wagon of note.

More Exemption votes please.

This is terrible. Calling for more votes while having very little proof is a loud siren going off in my head. You are moving from the realm of bad player to suspiciously scummy.

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vote AC

Unsight flipped town and was probably onto something. Throughout the back and forth between Unsight and AC it looked a lot like a town verses a scum, based on the fact each side was attacking each other. Town verses town back-and-forth discussions usually don't degrade into this sort of argument.

I personally thought Unsight was more scummy then AC, but alas, I was wrong.

@pman - post or switch out. You have been largely AWOL ever since I stopped being suspicious of you, and now you seem content with riding along in between prods. Do you have a good reason why you have been so inactive since the first few days of discussion? How about parachuting in from inactivity to load up a vote on Me=Weird and then going back underground? (Since May 22nd)

Scum-o-meter:

1. AC
2. Pman
3. Soundwish
4. Empking

Emp you are on this list because your minimalist style of play has been noted. It is like you are purposely avoiding posting a lot in order to avoid making a mistake or prevent anyone from getting a good read on you. A very weak tell, could just be your playstyle, but noted nevertheless.

[Soundwish]

I want to stick up for Empking, his play in this game is

much

better than I have seen from him in previous experience. He is one of the most town players to me at the moment.

[Stef]

Meh. Will post tonight.

[Soundwish]

Nearly 24 hours without actual posts. Well played guys.

@deadjoker - what do you think of Exemption attacking the circumstances of my point against him rather than the point itself?

Actually, if everyone could answer that it would be great.

[Katsuki]

Deadjoker: IS your reasoning behind AC mostly because unsight flipped town?

[Empking]

I don't think there's anything wrong really with going "all right, but what else have you got?" scummy as long as you don't use that to discredit what the person has which Exemption isn't doing.

[Snow_Bunny]

Day 2 Mission Mails (prods) have been sent to AC, Exemption, Hrez and pman. Additionally, I will start looking for a replacement for pman, as he has been away for far too long. I fear he has flaked from the site.