Mini 961: Insane Asylum II: GAME OVER :O!

[magnus_orion]

So, to be totally clear. You are rescinding your opinion on SC, correct?

[Iecerint]

No, that's not what I said.

In my heart of hearts, a part of me thinks he is scum. But, owing to the majority feeling differently, I am content to do what they want while privately thinking differently. The reason for this is that the main reason I think SC is scum is that that is the impression I get from him; it isn't based on something more formal/reliable like VC analysis.

The benefit of this irrational way of going through life is always being able to privately say "I told you so." And if you can't, at least you win.

[Iecerint]

I am giving you an answer that is 100% honest. It is luckily not the same as the answer I would give you as scum.

[Iecerint]

Hey, speaking of which --

MO, if the Tar breadcrumb was so crucial and salient, why didn't you point it out yesterday when you were asking me about my suspects? You seemed to accept my triumvirate pretty quickly.

[Iecerint]

EBWOP: where "accept" means "recognize as a legitimate perspective" rather than "agree with," obvs.

[magnus_orion]

I never accepted your triumvirate. I've suspected you for awhile now.

[Iecerint]

1. That wasn't the impression that I got yesterday at all. Actually, you went so far as to call it "excellent" or something IIRC.
2. You didn't answer my question.

Cleaned up double post. And made the thread disappear for a few minutes. It was p. cool

[UncertainKitten]

The Twenty-Third "Crazy Enough To Work" Vote Count

"You're both nuts. This whole plan is nuts. It can't work. I am totally in."

Mod Note: Tarhalindur prodded.

1. magnus_orion (0)
2. StrangerCoug (0)
3. SocioPath (3): farside22, Dramonic, StrangerCoug
4. farside22 (0)
7. Tarhalindur (0)
8. DrippingGoofball (0)
9. Haylen (0)
10. Iecerint (2): DrippingGoofball, magnus_orion
11. Dramonic (0)


Not Voting (4): Haylen, SocioPath, Tarhalindur, Iecerint

Sociopath is at L-2!

Prod Clock (New): 48 hours
Players still needing to respond to prod: Tarhalindur

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline is in 10 days at 10:00 PM EST, Tuesday, June 8th, 2010

[magnus_orion]

...
That "excellent" and the "wonderful" were dripping with sarcasm. I was writing with a tone of clearly insincere interest/fascination in mind.


If you want me to answer your question, I don't generally defend players unless a wagon I feel is unjustified has built up sufficient force.

[Iecerint]

Slicey/dram is a non-entity slot, so no, I haven't said anything about him. He's the 3rd scumfriend by PoE, mostly. The Tar vote is RVS-tier. Also, while it's true that dram's activity was about half as great the 19th as before (consistent with having an exam), he still managed to post 10 times in 6 distinct games. So I could see his lower priority in this game being an attempt to finish with his vote on a scumfriend without being implicated in either legitimately bussing a scumfriend or contributing to a mislynch. But that's a weaker proposition -- his inclusion is mainly PoE.

Excellent. I was worried that you were just going to say he was lurking, and you basically just picked a lurker at random, but if it was process of elimination, I would love to see the details.

Doesn't read that way to me. YMMV, I guess.

[Tarhalindur]

Okay, first up - when I get prodded for NOT BEING ABLE TO REACH THE SITE for the better portion of a SINGLE DAY after keeping a fairly normal (for me) activity schedule, I really have only recourse.

I should be considered V/LA for the remainder of the game barring a MAJOR improvement in site stability. If this is not permissible, I will need to request replacement - I CANNOT currently guarantee one post per 48 hours, especially not with the site in its current state.

(If the post deadline was 72 hours, I would probably be able to do so... but not 48.)

I'm trying to decide how best to play my hand here - I've been stupid, but as a result of that stupidity I may be able to catch us two scum here.

First, current reads: Iecerint doesn't look particularly good to me. One of {DGB, Haylen} is scum by the numbers - probably the latter, since DGB is behaving a lot like she did in Medieval (where she was town - foolish town, but town nonetheless). Farside22 is very probably town for meta reasons, magnus orion looks town given play. I have a weak town read on SocioPath (I'll take a second look), a weak scum read on SocioPath, and Dram has softclaimed neutral (which I'm inclined to believe for now).

Second: I think DGB is going to need to claim target (I know from mason discussions her role has a targeted ability - you don't need to know what it is yet) - I strongly suspect her ability targeted scum last night (DGB - I suspect your sanity is Insane). I'd ask her to do so in the usual spot except that we can't use it right now (stupid lockdown). (Haylen will probably need to do so as well, but that can probably wait until we force her to fullclaim - though I'll drop now that I suspect her sanity is Paranoid.)

I'm probably in a fullclaim situation here - I have information I'm pretty sure the rest of the town needs to have, and I don't see a way to put it out without implicitly claiming my main ability. But I'd rather wait until I either need to leave the game or until I can be sure who's the scum in my mason group is.

Vote: Haylen

for now.

[UncertainKitten]

Considering refraining from prods until site stability increased. Except in egregious cases where I have people asking for prods. Do you think this would work?

[SocioPath]

Considering refraining from prods until site stability increased. Except in egregious cases where I have people asking for prods. Do you think this would work?

You could still keep the prod clock up.

Well, yeah, in cases where I prod. What I'm thinking is that prod rules won't be directly enforced by me, but if someone requests a prod on someone, and it's been 72 hours since their last post, I'll prod them. Should account for site bullshit, but might slow down the game. I hope no one would abuse this?

[DrippingGoofball]

Erm, Tar, if I my ability was insane, and I had targeted scum, there would be dead scum.

[Iecerint]

Tar, which of those SPs is an SC?

[StrangerCoug]

I think a quick skim of magnus_orion vs. Iecerint puts the former on the winning end. That Iece constantly confused SocioPath and I with each other doesn't have an effect on my read, but what does seem off to me is that he's taken awhile to come up with a straight answer to MO.

[DrippingGoofball]

Let's lynch Icerink.

How many times do I have to tell you SocioPath is town?

[Iecerint]

So, I'd vote SP, but I don't want to put him at L-1.

[Tarhalindur]

Erm, Tar, if I my ability was insane, and I had targeted scum, there would be dead scum.

I suspect you hit a NK-immune scum, hence the questioning.

And you're VERY unlikely to be sane - I have very good evidence that I'm sane (friggity frig frig - I was so sure I was anything but...), and given that I don't see how you can be sane.

As for Iecerint - I think he's likely scum, but that Haylen is even more likely to be scum. Especially given that SocioPath vote: Socio is a BAD lynch today - even if Iec is town (big if), Haylen is still much more likely to be scum.

[dramonic]

I most prob missed something big, because I've no clue what's all the talk about sanities <<

[StrangerCoug]

Mod: Minor technical difficulties with my Internet connection.

Seems to be happening a lot

[magnus_orion]

I most prob missed something big, because I've no clue what's all the talk about sanities <<

scummy.

HOS: dramonic

[Iecerint]

Especially given that SocioPath vote: Socio is a BAD lynch today - even if Iec is town (big if), Haylen is still much more likely to be scum.

Long all-town wagon on town is kinda funky. What makes you so sure that SP is town? (Yeah, I get that you think I could be scum to eliminate THAT problem, but ye know.)

[SocioPath]

Everything Iec has said today is that which comes from scum.

Vote: Iec

[Iecerint]

Hardly. The kind of inconsistencies I've made are towntells if anything, and the nature of my defense is not that which I would employ as scum.