Mini 219: Tom Cruise Mafia -- It's a Wrap!

[MeMe]

Count

:

Seol

(1):

Fuldu

not voting

(6):

Astronaut, inHimshallibe, Phoebus, Seol, Talitha, Yosarian2

Want to end the day? You'll need to have four votes to do it...

[Yosarian2]

I second that. Nobody's really sided with him so far, so if he's got partners, he/she is among the less talkative here. I won't exclude the idea that he's our SK, but the mafia is the ones we want to look for at the moment, right?

Actually, I'm not sure about that. We've had votes today on multiple people, and no sudden bandwagons on anyone, which makes me think there probably isn't a 3 person mafia in this game. At the very least, I know for a fact that either there isn't a 3 person mafia, or if there is that Phoebus is a part of it, because his vote was on me for quite a while and no one else joined the bandwagon.

In any case, if there's a 2 person mafia and a SK, the best move for the town today would probably be to lynch the SK, because then we know there will only be one nightkill tonight which would leave us in a 3 town 2 scum position tommorow.

[Talitha]

vote: Seol

Him and Phoebus have the dodgiest claims by far, I'm convinced they're both scum and I'd lynch either of them.

[inHimshallibe]

Yosarian is looking somewhat scummy with his comment on lynching the SK. Even though he said 2 and 1, I think Yos could be in a 3 scum group, which would definitely want us to lynch the SK.

I have to say I feel OK lynching Phoebus or Seol, but I'm now leaning toward Phoebus.

[Astronaut]

I think I've seen enough, let's see if my gut feeling day 2 was right.

vote: Seol

[Astronaut]

Forgot to mention, I'll have no access until Sunday morning.

[Phoebus]

vote: Seol

3/4

[MeMe]

End of Day Count

Seol

(4) -

Fuldu, Talitha, Astronaut, Phoebus

Not voting

(3) -

inHimshallibe, Seol, Yosarian2

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Are you afraid to kiss me, Jack?"
"I'm afraid you'll break my heart"
"Then I'll steal your heart -- or maybe make it stop beating -- instead."
--

Legend, less than more.

Seol

aka

Jack

,

Godfather

, can no longer enjoy woodland creatures and flittering fairies.

It's now Night 3. Choices are due by

9 p.m. EST Monday, October 3

.

[MeMe]

Deadline extension due to down time:

9 a.m. EST Wednesday, October 5

.

[MeMe]

Talitha

aka

Steve Randle

,

Goon

, was force-fed way more medicine than was good for him last night. He'll not be using his fists to solve his problems any longer.


And, in sad news,

inHimshallibe

aka

Mitch McDeere

,

Mason

, was beaten to a bloody pulp last night.

Just four of you left -- three of you will have to agree in order to end the day.

[Astronaut]

Tally was so obviously scum... Good job, SK!

And before someone tells me that that was the biggest SK tell they've ever seen, I can assure you, I'm not your SK.

[Phoebus]

I do believe

vote: No Lynch

is the way to go.
Let scum figure this one out.

Seol seemed to know a thing or two about the setup. That's rather interesting in retrospect, isn't it? I've had my doubts since he started talking about numbers.


He voted Astro twice. Yos only got an FoS.
Yos to an extent, his predecessor to a larger extent, was scummy. I'm getting more convinced WindSlicer got cold feet and got replaced. You needn't get cold feet as SK. when it's a team effort to win, it's more likely.

I think Astro's claim is a gutsy one since he picked a dark/grey character which would be less likely to conflict with a pro-town one.

[Fuldu]

I agree with Phoebus. Even if there were only two mafia and all we're left with is a SK, no lynch isn't a losing proposition with only one kill tonight. And if we have a scum and a SK (more probable, though not certain, given a GF in the mix), then they have to hope to get one another rather than shooting at me. I won't vote yet, to give the group more opportunity to talk, but that's where my inclinations lie.

[Yosarian2]

Well, if we're in a simple "2 town 1 scum 1 sk" situation, or a simple "3 town 1 SK" situation, no-lynch would be the right move. There's one problem, though. Astro claimed to be able to survive one lynch. Now, if I was modding a game, I might give a SK an ability like that. What if Astro is SK, is the last bad guy, and can survive one lynch? If we do a no-lynch today, and try to lynch him tommorow but fail, we'd lose.

Basically, if Astro really is a townie who is immune to one lynch, we don't lose anything by lynching him today, and we confirm his ability. If Astro is a SK who can survive one lynch, and is the last BG left, then we HAVE to lynch him today AND tommorow or else the town loses.

Astro, if you lied about your ability, it's time to say so now. If you actually can survive one lynch, then I think we should lynch you today.

[Astronaut]

I think there's a better way than no lynch. From my point of view, this one is solved, with mason Fuldu as my only pro-town companion. Yos teamed up with Seol all yeasterday, which means Phoebus is our SK.

I'm currently analyzing votes in an attempt to convince you of my innocense, Fuldu. Don't go with the NL until you've heard me out.

[Yosarian2]

Asto, answer the question.

Were you telling the truth about being able to survive a lynch, or not?

[Fuldu]

I think there's a better way than no lynch. From my point of view, this one is solved, with mason Fuldu as my only pro-town companion. Yos teamed up with Seol all yeasterday, which means Phoebus is our SK.

I'm currently analyzing votes in an attempt to convince you of my innocense, Fuldu. Don't go with the NL until you've heard me out.

What are you talking about, Astro? If that's the case, then lynching either of them results in one town and one scum being alive tomorrow morning. That's not a win for the town.

[Astronaut]

Asto, answer the question.

Were you telling the truth about being able to survive a lynch, or not?

Yes, I was, but lynching me to confirm this is not the optimal strategy for town. I've got another trick up my sleeve, and if Fuldu believes me, we should lynch one of you scum tonight.


Votes from remaining players/dead scum:
Astronaut voted: DP(16), inHim(45,144,174), Johnny(198), Seol(96,304),Talitha(154)
Fuldu voted: Johnny(91,199), Seol(293), Talitha(140)
Phoebus voted: Astronaut(46,137), Fuldu(8), Seol(215,306), Yosarian2(70,187,211,278)
Seol voted: Astronaut(48,157), CoolBot(13), Johnny(92,197), Phoebus(217)
Talitha voted: Astronaut(4,134), inHim(58,162), Johnny(22,204), Seol(302), Yosarian2(179)
Yosarian2 voted: DP(23), Fuldu(111), inHim(177)

Things I feel are worth noting are these:
Astro voted for both Seol and Talitha.
Phoebus voted for Astro, Seol and Yos.
Seol voted for Astro and Phoebus, never for Talitha or Yos.
Talitha voted for Astro, Seol and Yos.


I'll let you in on my plan if you believe me, Fuldu, but first I'd like to hear who you think is most likely mafia and who's SK.

[Fuldu]

Well, I don't believe you, but letting me in on your plan may or may not change that. Right now I'm inclined to believe that Phoebus is the SK and you're the remaining goon, but a no lynch would provide me with better information.

[Astronaut]

Well, if I can't convince you I'm town, I guess there's no chance of me convincing you that we should lynch the SK. Because if we do, town wins.

[Fuldu]

Well, if I can't convince you I'm town, I guess there's no chance of me convincing you that we should lynch the SK. Because if we do, town wins.

Probably not, but it's far less likely if you continue to not explain the logic of your argument, and particularly unlikely when, if you're lying and a mafia goon, your plan would be an almost sure win for you.

[Phoebus]

I don't understand why you'd need to hedge around if it's such a brilliant plan.
You only raise my confidence in your evil intentions.

Vote stays.

[Yosarian2]

Astro, if you actually do have a "plan" other then "let's see if I can get everyone to lynch the SK so I can win", I'd like to hear it. You have to realize that at this point, it wouldn't make any sense for either me or Fuldu to "just trust you" and that you would have to get both of us to vote for Phoebus in order to get a 3 vote lynch, right?

[Phoebus]

And here, you just assume, don't you?
Scumbag! You know you're it.

I just don't see how you'd think a girl is evil over a bloodthirsty vamp with a lynch immunity - read SK benefit.

[Yosarian2]

And here, you just assume, don't you?
Scumbag! You know you're it.
I just don't see how you'd think a girl is evil over a bloodthirsty vamp with a lynch immunity - read SK benefit.

You're the only one who has claimed a non Tom Cruise role. On the other hand, both dead scum were not Tom Cruise. So, yeah, your claim is suspicious. That's not the primary reason I'm suspicious of you, of course, I went into some detail about that yesterday. But never mind that, it dosn't really matter at this point because we can't afford to lynch you today unless...well, let's just see what Astro has to say.

But anyway, I don't assume anything at this point. It's quite possible that both you and Astro are scum in different groups, and it's also quite possible that only one of you is scum. I still say that if Astro has one lynch immunity, then lynching him today is better then a no-lynch, because it gives us more information and makes it possible to lynch him tommorow if we need to (if there is a tommorow, of course) and has no real disadvantage over a no-lynch.

Plus, there's the added bonus that if Astro is lying about being immune to a lynch, I expect him to admit it once it becomes clear that we're about to lynch him unless he admits to the lie.