ToG wrote:I am not saying that you appear too townie. I am saying that you write out "I am town". For me its the same thing as someone just plainly stating "oh btw I am town". Wouldn't that sound suspicious to you ?
If they actually just made a post out of the blue saying, "I am town," yes, I would be suspicious.
I still fail to see what the problem is with the spreadsheet is, though. I'm not implying I'm town by doing that. I'm just providing something that I'm already making for others' convenience, and I did not expect people to actually place any interpretations on that action.
ToG wrote:Ok I will never cite anything from an ongoing game again. Are we still able to discuss this here ? Or do we have to forget everything about it ?
It's better if we don't. If you're reading ongoing games for meta, you can. You're just not allowed to talk about those games specifically. You've already walked on dangerous ground by using those quotes.
The reason I refuse to elaborate further on the issue you've brought up is because I'd violate site rules by talking about them. I'll be free to talk however much we both would like once those games are over.
ToG wrote:At the moment you are my most suspicious player. I will try to further pressure you. If you don't like that start telling us why you choose to pressure Andrew94.
I'm perfectly fine with pressure. I just don't like the reasoning you've used to conclude that "Equinox is scummy." From my perspective, it's faulty logic, and I think you only used it because there was no other evidence of me being scummy or someone else being scummy. For all I knew, you could have been scum trying to push a flimsy case.
I'll explain why I chose to question andrew94. andrew94 was providing very guarded answers to questions, so I wanted to probe further. Probing further resulted in responses that were even more guarded, and andrew94 became more and more defensive. That set off alarm bells. At some point I thought the defensiveness was most likely due to his perception that he was being harassed, so I ceased questioning.
The way he's guarding his answers and the way he's been very defensive -- lashing out at anyone who questions him, attempting to deflect attention off himself to others, sometimes outright refusing to answer certain questions that didn't warrant refusal -- as well as his lack of attention to anything else in the thread that does not directly pertain to him has me reading him as,
at best
, slightly scummy. If he's town, I do not want him making decisions for my faction in LyLo, and I figure, from experience, that he will never be NKed.
I Am Innocent's list of votes has me thinking that scum would be on the andrew94 wagon because it's a very easy lynch for Day 1, and anyone would be able to claim that they did not want inattention or indecisiveness in LyLo. That does not reduce my suspicion of andrew94; it merely motivates me to look again at Memnon, Ren, and Titiboo.
Sometimes, the most obvious and easiest target is scum.
I Am Innocent wrote:Not sure I like this last line though from Equinox. I see it as trying to intimidate a newbie who is actually doing some scumhunting.
ToG is doing scum hunting, yes. I just didn't like how his case looked; it looked to me like a house built out of old Popsicle sticks without glue. I've already stated that might be because telling tells apart takes a bit more experience. I chose to put that disclaimer/threat there in case he was actually scum trying to build a fake case. I was probably a bit too aggressive with that comment, though, so I'll acknowledge that my last paragraph could have done without it.
I Am Innocent wrote:So how about instead of trying to scare the newer players with OMGUS threats, how about scumhunt for a change?
Titiboo is AWOL.
Ren is AWOL.
andrew94 is MIA, but I've already promised never to question him again because he will not answer anything asked to my satisfaction.
I'll get back to you when the people I really want to question are here. Interpret that as stalling if you want.
