Okay. One bout of pillow punching later...
(Sotty7: I noticed you responded while I was typing this up... I'll read it and address it in the next post.)
I bring you a rational case behind Memnon, who is alive and kicking. Actually, Memnon isn't "kicking" at the moment.
PBPA wall incoming. Lots of fluff. Conclusion at the end.
Post 8: Memnon uses a graphing calculator to come up with RVS. I've seen newbie town do this, so it's not necessarily a scummy tell. I can see why people are wary of this, though. A random vote like this, despite being an RVS vote, does not require any amount of responsibility behind it. Whereas someone can attack a weird RVS reason, there's nothing to attack if "the dice said so" or "the graphing calculator said so."
Post 59: Memnon appears to prefer RQS, but he doesn't volunteer any questions because he's busy. Memnon also attacks andrew94's attack against Ren's request for more activity. (What a mouthful.) Interesting that Memnon uses sarcasm to attack andrew94... even though I've been doing that for the past couple of days. Anyway, that's noted.
Post 60: Memnon is trying to find scum, yet he also will not try to prevent a townie lynch... wait, what? And how did I not see this before?
Post 93: I'll agree with Memnon that andrew94's response was really bad. It's interesting Memnon did not actually question andrew94 about that post, unlike Equinox, mb53, and Ren, but just plain accused him. Memnon also advocates for a policy lynch but does not do anything to get it moving. (It's worth noting that andrew94 was at L-2 at the time, so that might be why.) Since we're all fans of overreading, this may be connected to Memnon's RVS vote earlier.
Post 94: A slight push for RQS. Meh.
Post 98: Memnon clarifies that he did not want a quick lynch, only a policy lynch. He appears to just want to lynch andrew94 because of his anti-town behavior... something I support, if we don't find someone scummier (like, you know, me). Memnon begins his interrogation of andrew94. I see no issues with the questions, but I'm reading Memnon in ISO so I don't know if there are other influences.
Post 103: Memnon responds to my RQs. I think I've already addressed everything I needed to with RQs, so nothing here. Next post is an EBWOP, so I won't include it.
Post 115: Memnon cedes andrew94's issues may be due to a language barrier, and he questions andrew94 a bit further about his
guarded
responses to my RQs.
Post 131: I think I see the problem with this vote now. Voting andrew94 was not going to spark discussion, unless Memnon expected people to accuse him of scum going for an easy lynch. He also states he's going for the policy lynch.
Post 134: Memnon further explains his policy lynch. I don't find anything wrong with the reasons, mainly because I already agree with them. Eh. Scum could be making this up, but I know I'm not, so... it's a null tell.
Post 138: Memnon challenges andrew94 to find what Memnon has done thus far. I'll answer the question: vote in RVS, push for RQS, answer RQs, push for a policy lynch, and then vote andrew94. I feel like a hypocrite for saying this, but... uh, that's not a whole lot.
Post 141: Memnon restates that he doesn't feel andrew94 is town or scum, but he wants andrew94 lynched because he's acting anti-town. Yeah, the definition of a policy lynch, which... I still agree with! Urgh. Memnon says he'll move his vote when he finds a better target. I'm not sure if he believed that initially or after NomDePlume pressured him.
Post 164: Memnon attempts to get discussion moving by asking for top 2 suspects from everyone else. Scum's motivation for doing this would be to look at everyone's top 2 then jump on one. Town's motivation for doing this would be to... get discussion moving. I'm running in circles. Anyway, Memnon did post his top 2, so there's less of a problem. He finds me scummy because I was leading (???) and Titiboo because he was lurkerish. Zero mention of andrew94, so Memnon believes andrew94 is town or just left him off the top 2. Weird.
Post 169: Stalls with me. Um, doesn't really answer my question, but he says he attacked me rather than a lurker because I was actually active. Fair 'nuff. And then Memnon piggy backs my defense of Ren. Bah.
Post 171: Fluff.
Post 184: Memnon gave up on andrew94 a while ago and for some reason didn't announce it. Sort of odd, but I can see that happening to anyone, so I won't press this.
Post 186: Unvoted by request.
Post 187: "Back to square one." I will have to assume Memnon purged his top 2 suspects list, since this implies Memnon has gone back to the initial state of zero suspects.
Post 189: Explained about this first thing in this wall.
Post 215: FLUFF. Well, Memnon claims RL busy, and I dislike using RL as any part of a scum case, so... yeah. Nothing here.
In summary, my issues with Memnon would be:
1. Memnon might have been trying to avoid responsibility by using a graphing calculator in RVS, and he defends this action as "random." I feel this is more of a newb tell than a scum tell, since this would be Memnon's first time with RVS, but it's worth noting because he does this again when he proposes a policy lynch on andrew94. L-1 would put enough pressure on andrew94 to get him to act, which would be good, yet Memnon avoids doing it. This hands-off policy regarding responsibility is interesting.
2. Memnon's statement in
post 60 is weird. I want an explanation.
3. Memnon has backtracked more than once behind the scenes, and this is only revealed after he's pressured or after he says something to that effect. I wonder why he isn't being vocal about moving his suspicions around.
Not definitely scummy, but I want these addressed. Vote stays.
Time to read Sotty7's post and respond to it.
