Mini 968 - Bastard Mass Effect (Game Over)

[Fate]

Ugh. Who was it that was pushing for the KS lynch yesterday, by the way?

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I agree that Colonel isn't the lynch today, but that doesn't make me think he's any less of a SK.

Counterclaiming Ani in a Bastard game has little implications. As you can see, he hasn't really been under much scrutiny for "such a ballsy" move. As a SK who might've been wanting to claim Vig all D1, he saw that if he didn't do it D2 he would lose his chance.

I'll go back and make my case on Bv, though I'm pretty sure its in my ISO somewhere.

[Fate]

Alright. Catchup post incoming. TM, you are one crazy bastard.

First off, Ani's claim. I don't believe it. Full claiming with no cause to do so doesn't make much sense, and I find it suspicious. His flavour IIoA after Col. Cathart's CC just reeks of scum attempting to justify a lynch. I don't like how quickly the wagon formed on him though.

Next up, Col. Cathart's CC. This feels more forced to me.I don't know if it's because it came so quickly or because of the (effectively) third vig claim soon after.

Thirdly, Kerristar, why are you convinced that he wasn't RB'd? In a game like this, a roleblocker doesn't seem entirely out of the realm of possibility.

And then that brings us up to now. Ani's last post when he thought he was hammered seems off. I'm not sure why, but it reminds me more of scum finally being caught rather than a townie getting mislynched.

Luke's last post is just dumb though. Vote: Lukepukeduke

So he's the last to piggy back onto the town's "ZOMG ANI LYNCHIN TIME!" May be due to how often he checks the thread, but still doesn't look to hot.

"Feels forced" I have counter somewhere for how many times scum use "feelings" to justify their suspicions... where oh where...

Then a Luke vote. I read this as distancing from a really dumb partner, knowing he's not in real danger of being lynched (over ani). Just me?

By forced, I meant both "reluctantly claiming" and "potentially scum gambiting" The third one after it just made yours seem more awkward. It might just be the way it's written that seems off. It seems like you're struggling for words.

How the hell can you call Colonel's Counter claim reluctant? You're positing that his thought process was: "ohhh fuck I was planning on fakeclaiming vig but I have to do it now? mmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeh" I didn't read it that way AT ALLZ. What does Reck's have to do with it?

I know this will get me NK'd, but my case is out there. Take my torch, town

FoS: Bv310

REPOSTED FOR YOUR VIEWING PLEASURE

[Fate]

Fair enough, although I did warn you I'd be gone for N2. I was going to ask you about your kill plans, and was hoping to get some legitimate discussion going in there. The fact that your "vig kill" just happened to be the only kill of the night is a little convenient.

Vote: xReckonerx

How do you plan to bow to yourself Reck? You claimed backup vig, in a game that already has two vig. I wish I would have read you before neighbourizing you, if only so I would have seen the scum in your posting.

VP raises an extremely good point. In mislynching me, the scum get a free NK, and we go to LyLo tomorrow. Reck seems even more scummy now, with his hard pushing for a lynch. I am even happier with my vote now.

Reck seems to be trying to pull the same move he did during Halo Mafia where we were scum together where he tries to piggyback on someone else's case

I'm not scummy, I'm lurky in every game. There's a difference.

As it stands, I feel like Fate is our best shot at hitting scum today.

Can ANYONE read this and point out the consistent line of townie thought?
My lord if no one else sees the giant leap he took from voting xRECK at MyLo and being highly suspicious of him to, "hey look at that CC and xRECK are suspicious of Fate... hmmmm" "FATE= HIGH% OF SCUMZ!"

Yeah, no. You can't pass of the fact that when you DO post it was scummy, lurker meta or not.

Vote: Bv310

Let's dance.

[xRECKONERx]

bv310, who should we lynch?

Fate's move could be read as scum under pressure needing a good alternate case or town making an earnest attempt to lynch a scummy player (although, bv310 is commonly known as a VI).

[Fate]

I'm especially interested in what VP has to say.

xRECK, you'll need to explain to me how you think that shift from you to me is because Bv is VI and not riding the winds of town.

[xRECKONERx]

Here's the thing... both of you seem very willing to lynch bv310.

So if this is single-scum setup, it makes me think you two are scumbuddies together and lynching the VI. If this is scum + SK, then that means bv310 is likely the last scum and C.C is the SK.

[Fate]

So.......... You're proposing VP+Fate scumteam and not a SINGLE protective role in the game with three killers+mafia+one kill a night?

I mean, I hate setup speculation as much as the next guy but LULZ

[Fate]

...........didn't you shoot Kerristar N1 and VP claimed protecting him?

*whoosh* almost forgot that.

Some active player who has internet at home should make a map of all claimed night actions and shit... that'd be helpful.

But yeah VP is basically confirmed town at this point, unless he's a scum doc that saved non-buddy O_o?

[xRECKONERx]

It's the only thing that makes sense. And, setup speculation IS worthless since we don't know what bastard mechanics are at play.

Honestly... I'm just cold-footed about lynching bv because of how scummy he is ALL THE TIME. But I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day, huh?

[xRECKONERx]

I think I shot Doombunny N1, it didn't go through, so I shot him N2 too.

[xRECKONERx]

My shots:

N1: Pick up gun, Doombunny
N2: Doombunny
N3: Limerickx
N4: Kerristar

[Fate]

Oh yeah it was Animorph that shot Kerristar N1.

And nothing about Ani's flip says 0% (though I don't think Tony has ever flipped sanities and the like in his games, but...), which COULD mean VP was ballsy enough to claim doc to explain Ani's kill failing, I HIGHLY doubt that because of how I softclaimed protective BEFORE him and the whole 1v1 thing he would've been placed in.

Add that to the whole pro-town way he's been playing ANNND you have bv scum with Colonel SK.

I know it may not seem like that to you but from my POV it's pretty cut and dry.

[bv310]

Some active player who has internet at home should make a map of all claimed night actions and shit... that'd be helpful.

I'll see what I can do.

bv310, who should we lynch?

Either Fate or VPB. One of them is scum trying to go for an easy mislynch (Me)

[Fate]

Why isn't xRECK scum anymore bv?

And if he isn't who is my/VP's partner?

[xRECKONERx]

^ These questions.

Though bv310 did mention a 2 scum + 1 SK setup in the QT last night.

WAIT A MINUTE

BRB

[xRECKONERx]

k nvm

[bv310]

He seemed earnest when we were talking in our QT last night. I now believe that you and VPB are partners.

Also, the whole collected night actions thing ain't happening today, that's for sure. I don't have time to read the whole thread, looking for Night action claims.

[bv310]

If neither of you are scum, then CC is an SK, and our setup was 9/2/1 (as I told Reck last night)

[xRECKONERx]

CLAIMED NIGHT ACTIONS:

Reck

: (Backup Vig)
N1: Kill Doombunny
N2: Kill Doombunny
N3: Kill Limericx
N4: Kill Kerristar

Fate

: (Bodyguard)
N1: Guarded MMM
N2: Guarded Col.Cath
N3: Guarded VP Baltar
N4: Guarded VP Baltar

VP Baltar

: (Doctor)
N1: Protected Kerristar
N2: Protected Reck
N3: Protected Col.Cathart
N4: Protected Fate

Col.Cathart

: (Vig)
N1: ???
N2: Kill lukepukeduke
N3: Kill Limerickx
N4: No kill

Unless Col.Cathart shot Kerristar or MMM N1, then none of the protects line up with the kills that didn't go through.

[xRECKONERx]

If neither of you are scum, then CC is an SK, and our setup was 9/2/1 (as I told Reck last night)

Uhh if it's not either of them then who's the second scum

[bv310]

Fine then, do it for me

Aaaanyway, if neither of them are scum, then it's either me or you, and I know it's not me. I feel like it's one or both of them, and CC. Of course, I've been wrong before.

[VP Baltar]

I'm not really caught up because I just got home from a work event, so I only skimmed, but Reck please shut up. There is no way you can honestly be considering me as scum. I have at least TWO protections that went through (kerristar and CC) and you want to lynch me? That makes a lot of sense. This is as opposed to you who is fail vig that can't even explain what is going on with your role

Your entire reasoning for finding bv townish is because he's a VI and you liked what he said in your QT last night?

[xRECKONERx]

Your protections only hold weight if you deny the bastard modding aspect that stopped the other kills.

And yes. Call me naive, but bv310 sounded very townish in our QT last night.

Though... the thing that holds me up is... he was very confident of the 2:1 scum to SK setup. Makes me think he has inside information.

Actually... fuck it... I'd lynch bv310 today. The worst case scenario is VPB and Fate are scum together in that situation and for that, I'm willing to take a loss as town because then it's less my fault and more the mod's for designing such a broken protection/protection setup.

Here we go.

Vote: bv310

Dear God please be right.

[VP Baltar]

well I can assure you I'm not scum. I like your bv vote, but to prove I'm not scum I'm not even going to vote right now. I'm going to bed.

[bv310]

Well, if it's LyLo, we just lost. I'm at L-1 with the whole morning until either of you come back. Like I told you, I'm Liara, Town Neighbourizer. Well played, scum.