Mini 982 - The Mars Volta Mafia(Game Over)

[Doombunny9]

Are you honestly scared that someone might hammer this early?

I would like to stay on the safe side.

@ Doombunny: Is there a reason you keep mixing up Zaj and Rai's names? It's happened at least twice now.

Nah. It was probably me just not thinking properly or thinking about Rai's defense too much.

[SaintKerrigan]

...it's quiet. Too quiet...

[My Milked Eek]

Thanks for coping guys. I still have finals, but the two most intensive ones are behind me right now, so I should manage to check in every day at least once

Going to read this thread tonight and give my opinion on it later today.

[Incognito]

Not really compelled to move my vote right now. I've definitely seen Zajnet peeking back at this thread, and he's been making posts in the only other game that he's in right now.

I want MafiaSSK, My Milked Eek, and NavyCherub to do more stuff - definitely feel like I have absolutely no preliminary reads on any of them at this point. Somebody should vote Zajnet to L-2 while we're waiting though. That's when the real fun begins.

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@Me=Weird: Did you mean to vote Zajnet in your last post? You didn't bold anything, but you said you wanted to vote him.

[Me=Weird]

I didn't vote Zaj? *headdesk. headdesk. headdesk. headdesk.*

Vote: Zajnet

Incog, I believe you had some questions for me. Would you be so kind as to repeat them?

[Incognito]

Is it that much trouble to just look at my posts in isolation and find the questions yourself? This isn't a face to face game where I might vocalize something, and you might forget what I said, ya know.

[Me=Weird]

Fine fine. My reread didn't turn up much new stuff, which is why my semi-case on ani was mostly page 6 stuff. Also, realized I didn't unvote.

Unvote animorpherv1, Vote: Zajnet

[Cove]

Back, getting caught up in both of my games. Things I wanted to see but have yet to:

-ani to explain what he's talking about with respect to me. As has been pointed out, I haven't been pushing for a M=W lynch at all.

-Zajnet to post at all.

Get to it.

My opinion of Raivann isn't improving. I agree that he's spending too much time attacking the argument rather than defending himself.

Navy: Any reads on people other than Doombunny9?

[SaintKerrigan]

@ Incog: What's your opinion on Raivann? Also, are you sure Zaj is in only two games? I know I'm in another one with him, and he's just about as active there as here.

@ Me=Weird: Why'd you call your push on Ani a "semi-case"?

[Me=Weird]

Cause it's only based on page 6 stuff and not very much.

[SaintKerrigan]

Cause it's only based on page 6 stuff and not very much.

Well see, here's where I'm coming up with a problem: you start out with a FoS on Ani for [stuff]. Incog asks why you didn't just vote Ani, and immediately afterward you change your FoS to a vote and claim that was what you'd intended to do all along. This implies a certain measure of seriousness to your case. Now, however, when people start questioning you about your case being based mostly around Page 6 stuff (in other words, not that much), you change your vote and now say your case on Ani was only semi-serious. It looks a lot like crowd-pleasing to me.

[Raivann]

@ Raivann: I know I've already responded to your explanations for voting me in my catchup post, and my point about Doombunny is that you're going fairly hard after him and yet your vote is on someone you've spoken far less about, and basically amounts to agreeing with what someone else said.

So your point is that I'm tunneling on Doom but not voting or FoSing him? ok.

FoS: Doombunny

there ya go!

@ Rai: Any reason you ignored the meat Doombunny brought against you in favor of answering something that wasn't all that relevant? For that matter, why'd you ignore my 191 and the two subsequent EBWOPs? You can't expect these things to disappear just because you ignore them/post fluff counters to them that you don't bother proving.

Here is Doom's "meat"...

Anyway, instead Rai's defense against SK is very weak and flimsy (eg. "The reason you're voting me is because you don't like my scumhunting" with little reasoning for it).

Doom thinks my defense is weak, what is it you want me to address?
Come to think of it it's getting a little old you telling me what I should and shouldn't address in my posts.
I think Doom is scum and would happily lynch him. But I also think the best case made so far in this game is the one on Zajnet, that's why I'm voting him.

Are you honestly scared that someone might hammer this early?

I would like to stay on the safe side.

Why's that ?


Here's a question for ya Me=Weird, it was when you got your games mixed up...

So did you think you were already voting someone ?

[Doombunny9]

Why's that ?

Is this a serious question? Let's look at the two options here for a sec.

1. Zaj is at L-2. No one can quickhammer and everyones happy.
2. Zaj is at L-1. Scum or retarded townie can quickhammer and screw stuff up.

Basically, we get the same idea if zaj is at L-1 or L-2 (Everyone thinks he's scummy, people want to see him die etc. etc.) but when he's at L-1 he could get quickhammered. I don't want a possible townie to get quickhammered, do you?

Doom thinks my defense is weak, what is it you want me to address?
Come to think of it it's getting a little old you telling me what I should and shouldn't address in my posts.

I want you to address why you think SK thinks your scumhunting is scummy instead of you being scummy and why SK's tunneling accusations are "ridiculous"

Also, I don't think I've really told you what to address other than this (which you asked me to). Looking back at myself in iso I've asked you a few questions. Is this what you mean by addressing? If so then YOU seem to have a problem with MY scumhunting. Asking questions is a vital part in scumhunting.

@Me=Weird- My question to you is could you please provide your case on Zaj? The only reason you gave was because of meta reasons.

[Zajnet]

Sorry for the super lurking, I've been really busy and have gotten behind on this game. I kept up with the other games I'm in because they're moving much slower, but I'll get caught up here and post something substansive a bit later today.

[SaintKerrigan]

So your point is that I'm tunneling on Doom but not voting or FoSing him? ok.
FoS: Doombunny there ya go!

My point is you're just trying to make him look bad, not actually scumhunting him.

Doom thinks my defense is weak, what is it you want me to address?

Maybe ask Doom

why

he thinks that way?

Come to think of it it's getting a little old you telling me what I should and shouldn't address in my posts.

Would you like the probability of getting yourself lynched to go significantly up? If not, then I suggest you respond to what people ask you to.

I think Doom is scum and would happily lynch him. But I also think the best case made so far in this game is the one on Zajnet, that's why I'm voting him.

Why is Zajnet's case the best so far, in your opinion?

I want you to address why you think SK thinks your scumhunting is scummy instead of you being scummy and why SK's tunneling accusations are "ridiculous"

I second that.

@ Zaj: Do hurry up, please.

[Me=Weird]

@SK: I FoS'ed him first because I was thinking about a game where I found someone suspicious but not as much as someone else who I was voting and got mixed up. I unvoted and voted Zaj because I found him more suspicious. I called it a semi-case because it wasn't much of one, but was the best I had at the time. I believe this also answers you, Rai.
@Doom: I don't have an actual case on Zaj yet, but I will probably change that when a game I'm in goes to night phase(which will be in a couple days max). The meta is the best I have so far, as his play is so much different in another game.

[My Milked Eek]

Hi, I just read this topic. So, a few questions and notes, albeit short notes;

What or where is the case on zajnet?
Why aren't more people voting ani? Or doombunny? Or raivann/M=W/mssk?
And yes, that's the order of my suspicions.
And no, I won't go in depth on this right now, most likely tomorrow when I've got more time to spare. And perhaps another quick read, as I find this game to be highly condensed in posts.
And yes, I have got firm town reads on most of the not mentioned people in this post.

Unvote. Vote: Animorpherv1.

[Doombunny9]

I don't have an actual case on Zaj yet,

I don't have an actual case on Zaj yet,

I don't have an actual case on Zaj yet,

Then why are you voting him if the only reason is for meta reasons especially when the meta in question is from an ongoing game where he may be scum?

Unvote, Vote: Me=Weird

[Doombunny9]

Blech, messed up tags. The last part under the last "I don't have an actual case on Zaj yet" is mine. In case the vote doesn't count

unvote, Vote: Me=Weird

[Parama]

^the winner

FoS: Me=Weird

for now because Zajnet still needs to post.


Too lazy to comment on anything else that's been posting since I left, since a lot of it looks worthless anyways.

[SaintKerrigan]

Ok, since it seems I need a more direct tactic...

@ Everyone: What is your current opinion on Raivann?

@ Me=Weird: It still looks like quite a coincidence that you did the things you did

after

someone started questioning you about it. It also is intriguing that your vote goes on the largest bandwagon at this time, and your reason for it is entirely meta-based.

FoS: Me=Weird.

What has

everyone

NavyCherub been doing all this game, anyway...

[Incognito]

@ Incog: What's your opinion on Raivann? Also, are you sure Zaj is in only two games? I know I'm in another one with him, and he's just about as active there as here?

I don't really have much of a read on him right now, and I don't even know if I fully understand your case on him. Can you break it down for me? Cuz I've read it, and I feel like it has something to do with his stance on Doombunny but maybe there's something I'm missing. Dunno.

Me=Weird is bugging me mainly because of his continued reference of an ongoing game. I want to say something about how his comments could be really alignment-revealing here when being looked at from a certain perspective, but I feel stuck because he's referencing an ongoing game, duh. Maybe I'm just reading too much into what he's saying though.



My Milked Eek: I'd like to read your case on animorpher when you get around to typing it.

Vote can stay where it is right now. I'll try to have more content tomorrow - I just started a summer job on Monday, and I'm trying to adapt to my new life schedule.

[Raivann]

but when he's at L-1 he could get quickhammered. I don't want a possible townie to get quickhammered, do you?

How very "townie" of you.

Why is Zajnet's case the best so far, in your opinion?

Not to repeat everything thats been said about his posts , but yeah he totally folded under pressure.
Add superlurking too, by his own admission.

@ Everyone: What is your current opinion on Raivann?

obvtown.

I don't wanna wait for deadline for Zaj to claim . Zaj should be put L1 and he should claim, then that gives us some time for discussion.
Anyone? agree/disagree?

[Raivann]

Sorry for the super lurking, I've been really busy and have gotten behind on this game.

I kept up with the other games I'm in because they're moving much slower,

but I'll get caught up here and post something substansive a bit later today.

This game is moving slow.

[Zajnet]

Posting from my phone, without internet unexpectedly
Will post in a day or two