Mini 980 - Trader Mafia (Game Over)

[SaintKerrigan]

StK, I did NOT MISS YOUR HUGE BOLD SENTENCE. I just think that 'convinced' along with 'not voting' is suspicious. Period.

Nuh uh. Being convinced someone is scum and not voting them is scummy, yes, unless the person has a good reason not to. In this case, I do have a good reason to not vote VV yet.

FoS: Nobody Special

I'm also doubting your explanation regarding the grammar stuff. If VV knows enough to try and spin "talking about mechanics" as a gerund phrase, he definitely should know enough about English to realize how that sentence reads to people who understand English fluently.

[SaintKerrigan]

Was rereading and found this:

VV is scum.

##vote:VasudeVa

Why did it take so long to vote VV, Jack?

[VasudeVa]

If VV knows enough to try and spin "talking about mechanics" as a gerund phrase, he definitely should know enough about English to realize how that sentence reads to people who understand English fluently.

That is a terrible presumption.

I don't know about you, but I don't think I'm infallible.

[Fishythefish]

@VV: I don't share your view that if you had a scumbuddy they'd be "going nuts". They might well think that obviously defending you was a bad idea.

If my interpretation of events is correct, you were defending yourself and you made a pretty serious misjudgement. You probably didn't think hard about the post before you posted it. I agree that the fact that what you said is pretty obviously a silly thing to say makes it more likely it was a genuine mistake.

@NS: why do you want to know what SK thinks about VV's possible buddies, if you're not interested yourself?

[Jack]

Was rereading and found this:

VV is scum.

##vote:VasudeVa

Why did it take so long to vote VV, Jack?

I voted him in ISO 17 (before first quote). The second vote was because it didn't show up in the vote count.

[Nobody Special]

@Fish: It's called 'generating discussion.' Hush now, the adults are talking.

[SaintKerrigan]

@ Jack: Ok

@ VV: No one is infallible. I just think you're using your lack of knowledge about the English language to excuse yourself from this fault.

[VasudeVa]

@Fish:
1. At any rate, the prolonged L-1 with little to no attempt to defend me(aside from NS on the later parts, Maybe a little from Navy), should speak for something. Also, I would be using that pretty pretty little daytalk mechanism to go "OMG SCUMBUDDY HALP!".

2. If my interpretation of events is correct,

you were defending yourself

making a post and attempting to scumhunt

and you made

a pretty serious misjudgement

grammatically correct sentence that meant another thing and wasn't aware of the other meaning

. You probably didn't think hard about the post before you posted it.

Fix'd.

3. Now that you think that it was a likely mistake, why aren't you unvoting yet? Or do you think I'm still scum with something else I've done?

@SK: How does that make me likelier to be scum? Yes, I am using my lack of knowledge of the English language to excuse myself from the fault but you see that could come from both town and scum to avoid being (mis)lynched.

[SaintKerrigan]

@ VV: Because what you said got you in hot water.

[VasudeVa]

In other news: I'd think there are 2-3 scum in {Jack, Fishythefish, Steam-Powered Shovel, Zajnet, farside22}.

Jack's current actions are hard to read. So let's say null with some parts anti-town.
SPS and Zajnet are wagoning, but it's D1 so it's null. Dislike the opportunism though.
I'm not a big fan of farside's play here. People who have played with her before would know why.
Fishy is investigation worthy, but not lynch worthy(ie. looking somewhat protown but is really suspicious). Cop go do that plx.

Do note that I still haven't gotten over my prerequisite newbie OMGUS instinct, but It's easy to see that I am an easy wagon for D1 and this wagon should not be overlooked. Also note the lack of a counter wagon.

If for some reason you guys should lynch me today(not recommended), I'd look into these players.

[VasudeVa]

@ VV: Because what you said got you in hot water.

that could come from both town and scum to avoid being (mis)lynched.

[Jack]

##Vote:Jack

^^for lack of unvote ability

I'm feeling temporarily tired of this lynch.

[Jack]

##vote:Farside

I don't think I'd mind lynching farside. Tons and tons of setup talk, miniscule amount of scumhunting.

[SaintKerrigan]

##Unvote: Andrius
Vote: Farside22

I'll dig this for now.

[SaintKerrigan]

##Vote: Farside22

[SaintKerrigan]

@ VV: Because what you said got you in hot water.

that could come from both town and scum to avoid being (mis)lynched.

Because I don't believe you actually made an honest mistake.

[VasudeVa]

##Vote: Farside

Somehow forgot to put this in my last post.

[Steam-Powered Shovel]

##Vote: SaintKerrigan

[SaintKerrigan]

Vote: Steam-Powered Shovel

(Yes, this wasn't a real vote.)

[Jack]

Wow, that killed the vas wagon. Long live the farside wagon.

[Nobody Special]

@ VV: Because what you said got you in hot water.

that could come from both town and scum to avoid being (mis)lynched.

##Vote: Farside

Somehow forgot to put this in my last post.

How the hell are these two post even remotely related?

Don't make me lynch you.

[VasudeVa]

I meant my 284 post then.

[Nobody Special]

Hmmmm.

[zoraster]

Day 1 Vote Count

Nobody Special ( 1 ) Andrius,
farside22 ( 4 ) Jack, SaintKerrigan, VasudeVa,
Zang ( 0 )
Jack ( 1 ) Zang,
SaintKerrigan ( 1 ) Steam-Powered Shovel,
Zajnet ( 0 )
NavyCherub ( 0 )
VasudeVa ( 3 ) Fishythefish, Zajnet, farside22,
Andrius ( 0 )
Fishythefish ( 0 )
Steam-Powered Shovel ( 1 ) NavyCherub,
flashstorm ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 2 ) Nobody Special, flashstorm,
Total Votes ( 13 )
Deadline: June 14th at 23:00 EDT
With 13 total votes, 7 needed to lynch.

[Fishythefish]

@Fish: It's called 'generating discussion.' Hush now, the adults are talking.

Urgh. What a horrific post. "Generating discussion" is a terrible reason to ask questions you don't want to know the answers to, and have no particular reason to ask. The second sentence is an ad hominem wanting me to stop asking you about it, or just generally discredit me. Why did you ask that question if you aren't interested in VV's scumbuddies?

Fos: NS

@VV: I didn't say I think it is likely it was a mistake. Simply that your argument made it

more

likely. What do you mean by me looking "somewhat protown but really suspicious"?

I also found your stance on Jack really unbelievable - it didn't feel like a position you believed in at all.

@SK: you were all up for a VV wagon, until Jack moved off it. Your only reason for not voting was that it was a hammer (which is of course a good reason). Why the sudden change of heart?