Mini 973: "Bawhston" Brawl (WHAT A WIN!)

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Ah. I see.

Innnteresting.

And how does

that

make you feel??

[TheButtonmen]

Like your trying to divert this away from your concern about appearing scummy.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Alright TBM.

In all seriousness, the fact remains, is that you jumped on something small, got an answer, and then voted.

It sure as hell doesn't add up, especially when there are larger issues at hand here.

Try again.

[TheButtonmen]

This vote's really bugging you eh?

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Not really ^^

[Gwynplaine]

Not really ^^

That's good. Then this won't bother you either:

Vote: Midnight's Sorrow

[Furry]

@Furry

Nik-TBM is looking like a very good pairing to me actually. I like nik lynch a little more though given his recent change on the TBM front, as I can see this interaction coming from Nik(S)-TBM(S) or Nik(S)-TBM(T)

Not arguing with your vote. As I am convinced that TBM is scum and since I wouldn't be the best person to look at his play in an unbiased light at this point, can you give any points to consider as to why TBM might be town?

Its a mix of nagging doubts detract much more from TBM scum than Nik scum and thinking Nik will be better at talking his way out of something.

TBM should claim though.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Your quite right Gwyn, it certainly doesn't bother me one bit

Why should I be bothered by a vote that was made because my predecessor 'lurked'?

Why should I be bothered by a vote that was made because of jumping on something small, that holds nothing to my alignment?

Most certainly why should a vote that has no reason other then to(Seemingly) be crass??

You'll have to do better then that Gwyn.

Try again please

[Oso]

TBM should claim though.

I completely agree that he should.

In case you didn't notice TBM, Nikanor said this earlier:

If someone puts TBM at L-1 I'll hammer.

I don't know if he would actually do that without you claiming first but with 4 votes on you at the moment, you should probably start doing something to get some of them off because you are effectively at L-1 right now. One more vote on you, with Nik seeing that vote before anyone can unvote well....you can see where that might lead.

And that L-1 vote is out there. I get the impression that Furry might add his vote at some point and q21 might do the same at some point as well. I got the feeling that the only reason q21 didn't vote you at the beginning of the day is that he felt it was too early in the day to L-1 somebody for a claim.

[Furry]

In case you didn't notice TBM, Nikanor said this earlier:

If someone puts TBM at L-1 I'll hammer.

See actually, this is the post that made me want a Nik lynch. Go through his posts and watch his opinions of TBMs slot, it actually is quite entertaining.

Also betting the rotating VI slot that is now MS is town.

[Oso]

I think I can agree with that. I've held the opinion that the original (Slepz) initially voted Hoopla because he legitimately thought it was a bogus claim. Gut feeling perhaps on his part as there was no sort of evidence to really back it up but he did get some town credibility as far as I was concerned, especially since he didn't back off.

His entire response to the claim seemed, to me at least, that was he was saying 'liar' rather than 'policy lynch'. When I made a re-read of the thread before making my first vote on TBM on day one, of the three I looked at: fitz, (RH)The Buttonman and (Slepz) Midnight's Sorrow, MS came off to me as the most likely to be town voting Hoopla at the time.

See actually, this is the post that made me want a Nik lynch. Go through his posts and watch his opinions of TBMs slot, it actually is quite entertaining.

I'll read Nik in iso concentrating on the TBM slot. See if I see the same thing as you.

[havingfitz]

Still v/LA. Checking in for a few minutes and not seeing anything worth commenting on other than I'm surprised by the fact TBM has not been lynched yet. wtf?

[Gwynplaine]

Why should I be bothered by a vote that was made because my predecessor 'lurked'?

Is that why I'm voting for you?

Why should I be bothered by a vote that was made because of jumping on something small, that holds nothing to my alignment?

Is that why I'm voting for you?

Most certainly why should a vote that has no reason other then to(Seemingly) be crass??

Or is that why I'm voting for you?

Apparently my vote bothered you enough for you to make up three different reasons why it didn't bother you.

[Nikanor]

I said I'd hammer TBM because a) Hoopla was upset and I wanted to make her feel better and b) I have this weird tendency to be wrong most of the time. I figure that if the majority wants it, I can go with a Buttonlynch.

Also, I'd like TBM to claim.

Unvote.

The worrying about OMGUSing is something Midnight does as town. I see no reason to keep a vote on someone who won't be lynched anyway.

[InflatablePie]

Haven't posted in a bit due to lack of sleep and not wanting to post when tired. Just popping in before work.

Don't really see Nikscum right now. I've seen townies pull the same "if he gets to L-1 I'll hammer" thing in the past, iirc. Not to mention I thought it was a joke due to the smiley. <_<

MS is iffy - Gwyn has a point, those votes seem to irk him a bit if he's getting that hung up on them.

Still like my vote.

Wonder if Hoopla's done being crazy.

[q21]

I think I'm a lot more interested in what your trying to imply TBM.

I'm implying that I think your reason for not wanting to vote someone due to worrying about acusations of OMGUS as opposed to not thinking they are scum; seems quite scummy to me.

Unvote; Vote: Midnight

Not that I'm disagreeing with your conclusion, the fact that MS was more worried about the potential OMGUS accusation isn't townie of him. However, why spend two posts making oblique remarks before making the accusation directly? It looks like you were simply putting some distance between your vote and MS so your's didn't look like quite so much of an OMGUS vote.

Still v/LA. Checking in for a few minutes and not seeing anything worth commenting on other than I'm surprised by the fact TBM has not been lynched yet. wtf?

And why, precisely are you so eager to speedlynch TBM.

[TheButtonmen]

@Q21

: A) This is why I think OMGUS needs to be purged from site meta; I'll vote who I want to vote, I don't care in the least if they are voting me. B) If I was OMGUS'ing why havn't I been voting the other people on my wagon?

I said I'd hammer TBM because a) Hoopla was upset and I wanted to make her feel better and b) I have this weird tendency to be wrong most of the time. I figure that if the majority wants it, I can go with a Buttonlynch.

Also, I'd like TBM to claim.

Unvote.

The worrying about OMGUSing is something Midnight does as town. I see no reason to keep a vote on someone who won't be lynched anyway.

So many things wrong with this post; to start off with he's willing to blind hammer me but wants to distance himself from it by saying he's just doing what the majority wants.

Also he unvotes because he feels that voting them is a wasted vote as he feels they aren't going to be lynched. Except he's been voting that slot on and off all game; quite often being the only one voting them; then when other people start voting for the slot he jumps off the wagon with that excuse?

[Nikanor]

Except that hammering someone without giving your own reasons is considered scummy by most people, TBM. I know that much. I like to think that I'm not completely incompetent.
Maybe I was saying exactly what I was saying.

And Midnight seems more townish to me anyway. Now all he has to do is vote for scum today and I'm set with a town read on him.

[yabbaguy]

"Hey, officer?"

"Yeah?"

"I just got a 911 call from Faneuil Hall."

Vote Count:

6 to lynch

TheButtonmen (4): havingfitz, Oso, InflatablePie, Midnight's Sorrow
Midnight's Sorrow (2): TheButtonmen, Gwynplaine
Nikanor (2): q21, Furry
InflatablePie (1): Hoopla

Nonvoters: Nikanor

Deadline is 6/24 @ 8 PM GMT-4. No Lynch occurs if this elapses.

Prodding: Hoopla

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Just because I like to go into a in-depth summary of exactly

why

they don't bother me, means they bother me??

Not really Gwyn. Not by the longest shot and yard

Yep. I'm liking my vote where its at.

[TheButtonmen]

Just because I like to go into a in-depth summary of exactly

why

they don't bother me, means they bother me??

Not really Gwyn. Not by the longest shot and yard ;)

Yep. I'm liking my vote where its at.

Fyi; your not voting him.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Really?

Huh...I didn't notice/sarcasm

Umm... duh? I was talking about my vote on you son~

[Furry]

Tired of waiting for Oso to see what I see.... so im just going to point it all out. Niks on RH/TBM doesnt add up to me.

Like, you know that feeling where you just know that it's two townies going at it in a big argument? That's how I feel about them. That Oso and RH are both town.

If someone puts TBM at L-1 I'll hammer.
....

I said I'd hammer TBM because a) Hoopla was upset and I wanted to make her feel better and b) I have this weird tendency to be wrong most of the time. I figure that if the majority wants it, I can go with a Buttonlynch.

The most interesting thing about these two posts is that there was only one namedrop of TBM from Nik in the meantime in

Also, I'm required to point out that TBM is assuming that Jacob actually is a vig.

Which is a decent suspicion reason, but this is ingored in entirety when pressure is put on TBM later in the game. Instead its an appeal to athority and pre-blame shift stance.

~~~~

Other stuff on Nik

Jacob, let's compromise. If Slepz flips town I'll help you lynch Reck tomorrow. Sound good?

Same thing that caught JS, going to be happy as a clam if it caught two scum. Lets not forget that Nik has a town read on Reck here. Not quite as bad as JS (which is why he was the priority lynch) but still bad.

Aw.
Poor Reck. And he was so townie, too.

This was a massive uneasy feeling post when I read it first and never have been able to shake that feeling off. You can compare it to the old "dang we lost a PR" type tell, but it feels like scum trying to get a "my reads were right, im so town" type post in. Maybe its also because I didnt have that much of a town read on reck as well.

q21: I have a burning desire to lynch Slepz because I like lynching lurkers. There's no way to get a read off them other than by lynching them. And if we show scum that lurking isn't safe on day one, then maybe they'll actually be active for a change, unlike every other game which seems to have the scum lurking to victory.

Amazing cop out. Slepz was a flaker, lurking is continually getting prodded and posting once or twice in between them, or even active lurking. Making a few posts followed by disappearing isnt lurking. Its all you can talk about in regards to this slot, and for the most part the entire game. It does remind me of the old game where we were scum together and most of your cases were lurking based. Also like the current interest in the TBM wagon, you showed previously nonexistant interest (to lynch) in wagons that showed up.

Vote Nik

TBM you are allowed to shamelessly wagon him if you wish, and you should since Slepz/MS is town

[Midnight's Sorrow]

umm...Furry???

You were already voting Nik....o.0a

[Hoopla]

*shrug*

Unvote, vote: TheButtonmen