NY 114: Mafia vs. Werewolves (Game Over)

[nhammen]

Hey shrine, instead of just responding to attacks against you, why don't you actually comment on other players. You only have done this twice. Once when you had read the first 16 pages, and listed you suspects as the three largest wagons up to that point. And the second point was, "Vote: Dr. Robotnik lynch is great." Yeah, that is so descriptive.

Since I have unvoted, and have been wanting more content from you, and was already suspicious of your slot,

vote shrine

[foilist13]

Clearly the robotnik wagon is dead, and as promised I am switching over to the shrinehme wagon.

unvote, vote: shrinehme

@anyone voting, or considering voting Socrates: Can someone fill me in on why he is scummy, because I'm not really clear on that one.

[MichelSableheart]

Fourteenth vote count of day 2.

askbob (0):
Dr. Robotnik (5):

Nachomamma8, askbob, Super Smash Bros. Fan, vezopiraka, Shrinehme

Dry-fit (0):
Faraday (0):
foilist13 (0):
Leafsnail (1):

Timeater

Lowell (0):
LynchMePls (0):
Midnight's Sorrow (3):

Unsight, SpyreX, Leafsnail

Nachomamma8 (0):
nhammen (3):

SerialClergyman, Dry-fit, Dr. Robotnik

Nikanor (0):
Parama (0):
Pomegranate (0):
SerialClergyman (0):
Shrinehme (7):

Midnight's Sorrow, Parama, LynchMePls, Socrates, Pomegranate, nhammen, foilist13

Socrates (2):

Faraday, Lowell

SpyreX (0):
Super Smash Bros. Fan (0):
Timeater (0):
Unsight (0):
vezopiraka (0):

Not Voting (1):

Nikanor

With 22 players alive, it takes 12 votes to lynch someone.

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vezopiraka has announced V/LA from the 12th till the 17th of june.

SerialClergyman has announced LA from the 12th till the 26th of june.

I'm looking for a replacement for Askbob.

Timeater requested replacement.

Nikanor didn't post in the last 48 hours and will be prodded.

[Shrinehme]

Hey shrine, instead of just responding to attacks against you, why don't you actually comment on other players. You only have done this twice. Once when you had read the first 16 pages, and listed you suspects as the three largest wagons up to that point. And the second point was, "Vote: Dr. Robotnik lynch is great." Yeah, that is so descriptive.

SSBF being neutral on me is kind of weird. He gave me Town vibes though, so I dunno.

Midnight is scummy.

Don't really care to belabor the reasons for Robotnik wagon.

also:
Generally when someone claims the Town should lynch them anyway, unless their claim confirms them. Town isn't playing well when they suddenly decide to lynch someone new after they pressure a claim out of them [Nhammen, Robotnik]. It's anti-town behavior and the people that this applies to should be looked at more closely later in the game.

[Shrinehme]

Clearly the robotnik wagon is dead

Dr. Robotnik (5):

Nachomamma8, askbob, Super Smash Bros. Fan, vezopiraka, Shrinehme

Shrinehme (7):

Midnight's Sorrow, Parama, LynchMePls, Socrates, Pomegranate, nhammen, foilist13

yes.

clearly dead

.

[foilist13]

dying

, either way it has fallen behind yours and that was the condition I put on me switching. And before someone asks me, yes when it gets to 6-6 I consider that to be fallen behind.

[nhammen]

Generally when someone claims the Town should lynch them anyway, unless their claim confirms them. Town isn't playing well when they suddenly decide to lynch someone new after they pressure a claim out of them [Nhammen, Robotnik]. It's anti-town behavior and the people that this applies to should be looked at more closely later in the game.

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. This strategy essentially means that if you are brought to L-1, you shouldn't claim. What in the -

Look, if you believe someone to be Town, you don't lynch them. Regardless of whether or not they have claimed.

[Nachomamma8]

@Timeater, Unsight, Spyrex, Leafsnail, SerialClergyman, Dry-fit, Dr. Robotnik, Faraday, Lowell:

What use are your votes serving right now? Do you believe that you are pushing your suspects as much as you should be? Do you believe that your wagon has a high chance of going through today? Do you think that having as many competing bandwagons we have right now is good for town?

[Unsight]

@Timeater, Unsight, Spyrex, Leafsnail, SerialClergyman, Dry-fit, Dr. Robotnik, Faraday, Lowell:

What use are your votes serving right now? Do you believe that you are pushing your suspects as much as you should be? Do you believe that your wagon has a high chance of going through today? Do you think that having as many competing bandwagons we have right now is good for town?

My vote is on scum and I'm happy to keep it there. Both Socrates and Midnight's Sorrow are far more likely to be scum than Dr. Robotnik or Sevis/Shrinehme.

The fact that that Midnight's Sorrow, Socrates, and nhammen are all on the Sevis/Shrine wagon is a mountain of bad juju. foilist13's wagon jump is just as bad. I have zero intention of joining a wagon with scummiest people in the game. That just won't have a happy ending.

And we already did push Midnight's Sorrow. The result was practically zero scum hunting and lots of "lol wut" type posts. That's not the "oh let's go look elsewhere" signal, that's the "DIE SCUM DIE" signal.

And yeah, I love competing wagons... just not when the biggest ones aren't the people I most want to see lynched.

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

SSBF being neutral on me is kind of weird. He gave me Town vibes though, so I dunno.

Actually, I have a slightly scummy read on you. Just that I don't consider you lynch worthy for the moment.

My vote is on scum and I'm happy to keep it there. Both Socrates and Midnight's Sorrow are far more likely to be scum than Dr. Robotnik or Sevis/Shrinehme.

Didn't you say earlier you weren't completely satisfied with starting the Midnight's Sorrow bandwagon?

And we already did push Midnight's Sorrow. The result was practically zero scum hunting and lots of "lol wut" type posts. That's not the "oh let's go look elsewhere" signal, that's the "DIE SCUM DIE" signal.

Basically sums up what I think we got from Midnight's Sorrow. It also created a huge mess for town to clean up (As if finding scum wasn't challenging enough). How do we balance cleaning up the mess and finding scum is the question.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

And we already did push Midnight's Sorrow. The result was

practically zero scum hunting

and lots of "lol wut" type posts. That's not the "oh let's go look elsewhere" signal, that's the "DIE SCUM DIE" signal.

Basically sums up what I think we got from Midnight's Sorrow. It also created a

huge mess

for town to clean up (As if finding scum wasn't challenging enough).

The bolded is somewhat laughable to me. I

have

been scumhunting sir and miss. It's what you can equate to this.."huge mess" you speak of. I am just 100% more sure about Sevis/Shrine then I am about the others. His flip will definitely confirm some if not all of the rest.

[LimMePls]

MS, your contributions cannot possibly be seen as "scum hunting". Attacking Sevis/Shrine because Vi and I scum hunted him out and Vi died is not scum hunting.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

I never said I was attacking Sevis/Shrine because

You

picked him out. I was quite clear that I got this course of action by Vi's posts. So I don't get where your getting this 'Vi and I' from.

-shrug-

And the Sevis/Shrine slot has become more scummy to me

without

Vi's input from D1 thanks you very much.

[LimMePls]

Observing that a slot is scum != scum hunting.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Oh. I have gone beyond observing Sevis/Shrine as scum LMP. There is no doubt in my mind anymore. Sevis/Shrine will flip scum.

[Pomegranate]

Oh. I have gone beyond observing Sevis/Shrine as scum LMP. There is no doubt in my mind anymore. Sevis/Shrine will flip scum.

There's something called over-confidence.

[foilist13]

Can we all pick a wagon or support a wagon with relevant, non-personal information? This thread is descending into personalized quibbles and trash talking about people and entire wagons. This is ridiculous. Con we please return to clear logical posting?

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Oh. I have gone beyond observing Sevis/Shrine as scum LMP. There is no doubt in my mind anymore. Sevis/Shrine will flip scum.

There's something called over-confidence.

-shrug-

I'm not over confident. I'm just put two and two together, thus the answer becoming as clear as day to me. I'm sticking my vote where my mouth is, and where the evidence is pointing me to.

[SpyreX]

Yo nacho:

I said I'm saving myself for a hammer. Which I will drop. With impunity.

[Nikanor]

I'm picking up my prod.
The read-through is not going so well. But I'm still here! And I'm working on it.

[MichelSableheart]

Fifteenth vote count of day 2.

askbob (0):
Dr. Robotnik (5):

Nachomamma8, askbob, Super Smash Bros. Fan, vezopiraka, Shrinehme

Dry-fit (0):
Faraday (0):
foilist13 (0):
Leafsnail (1):

Timeater

Lowell (0):
LynchMePls (0):
Midnight's Sorrow (3):

Unsight, SpyreX, Leafsnail

Nachomamma8 (0):
nhammen (3):

SerialClergyman, Dry-fit, Dr. Robotnik

Nikanor (0):
Parama (0):
Pomegranate (0):
SerialClergyman (0):
Shrinehme (7):

Midnight's Sorrow, Parama, LynchMePls, Socrates, Pomegranate, nhammen, foilist13

Socrates (2):

Faraday, Lowell

SpyreX (0):
Super Smash Bros. Fan (0):
Timeater (0):
Unsight (0):
vezopiraka (0):

Not Voting (1):

Nikanor

With 22 players alive, it takes 12 votes to lynch someone.

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vezopiraka has announced V/LA from the 12th till the 17th of june.

SerialClergyman has announced LA from the 12th till the 26th of june.

I'm looking for a replacement for Askbob and Timeater.

Dry-Fit didn't post in the last 48 hours and will be prodded.

[Unsight]

SSBF being neutral on me is kind of weird. He gave me Town vibes though, so I dunno.

Actually, I have a slightly scummy read on you. Just that I don't consider you lynch worthy for the moment.

My vote is on scum and I'm happy to keep it there. Both Socrates and Midnight's Sorrow are far more likely to be scum than Dr. Robotnik or Sevis/Shrinehme.

Didn't you say earlier you weren't completely satisfied with starting the Midnight's Sorrow bandwagon?

And we already did push Midnight's Sorrow. The result was practically zero scum hunting and lots of "lol wut" type posts. That's not the "oh let's go look elsewhere" signal, that's the "DIE SCUM DIE" signal.

Basically sums up what I think we got from Midnight's Sorrow. It also created a huge mess for town to clean up (As if finding scum wasn't challenging enough). How do we balance cleaning up the mess and finding scum is the question.

"Didn't you say earlier you weren't completely satisfied with starting the Midnight's Sorrow bandwagon?"

My satisfaction with the Midnight's Sorrow wagon has been directly proportional to the number of posts he's made today.


"How do we balance cleaning up the mess and finding scum is the question."

By lynching them.

[Faraday]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


@ Nacho IDK my vote is on who I think is most likely to be scum, I've no idea why the soc wagon fell apart. RAIIZE was horribly scummy.

unvote vote ROBOTNIK

looks scummier than MS who has a slightly better chance of being town.

[Parama]

Mod: V/LA 6/13-6/14

[MichelSableheart]

CryMeARiver will be replacing Askbob.