Mini 986: Beatles Mafia (Game Over)

[Karma]

Except he's not scumhunting.

Way to say something negative about me with no basis. It's the second page, I have revealed one person as acting scummily, and you are already accusing me of not scumhunting. Who made you king of MafiaScum? I missed the coronation.
My case on inHimshallIbe is a better one than most people have, especially you.

Moar votes plz

[TheSkeward]

I would hand a live grenade to inHimshallIbe for not explaining his username and OMGUS voting me. I always have a suspect D1, so that's not a problem. I must commend petrolemjelly for his style of vote count. It's exactly what I've always wanted.

Unvote:
Vote: Danakillsu

SB was more of a random vote. Dan's defensiveness and pandering to the mod raises eyebrows.

Unvote; Vote: MonkeyMan576

"Defensiveness", passive language, calls a compliment on the votecount 'pandering to the mod', as if that would be scummy anyway. This is not a post looking for scum, this is a post looking for reasons to call someone scum.

muh316's reaction to this struck me as town ("uh, what?") and Karma's struck me as scum ("moar votes plz"). I don't know where MonkeyMan gets off thinking that dana "isn't scumhunting" - it's the third page and she has done exactly as much scumhunting as you.

[Karma]

Calling for a wagon on an extremely scummy player is scummy? It probably won't lead to a lynch, but if dana is scum, he'll slip. Scum always slip. A wagon is a way to find those slips.

[TheSkeward]

Calling for a wagon on an extremely scummy player is scummy? It probably won't lead to a lynch, but if dana is scum, he'll slip. Scum always slip. A wagon is a way to find those slips.

In your own words, explain to me why dana is scum.

[TheSkeward]

"extremely scummy"*

[Karma]

He's exceptionally defensive in RVS and freaks out when inhim "OMGUS" votes him. Nervous scum.

[VasudeVa]

Well this is shaping up to be a VI heavy game.

FUN. Hey Skeward, we might get lynched by stupid town part deux.

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I'm getting a sense that Anon might be onto something, and Karma being quick to point out dana's alleged 'nervousness' is projection on his part.

Vote: Karma

[petroleumjelly]

Official Day One Vote Count: #2

3 - danakillsu (inHimshallibe, Karma, MonkeyMan576)
3 - Karma (muh316, Anon, VasudeVa)
2 - muh316 (Zang, Shadow Dancer)
1 - inHimshallibe (danakillsu)
1 - MonkeyMan576 (TheSkeward)
1 - Scott Brosius (ekiM)
1 - VasudeVa (Scott Brosius)

With

12

alive it takes

7

to lynch, and

4

to lynch at deadline. Deadline is June 30 at 4:00 p.m. PST.

Not Voting - 0 - Nobody

[MonkeyMan576]

I don't think either wagon is exceptionally strong at this point, but we have to start somewhere.

[danakillsu]

I would join the Karma wagon, but at least Karma's trying. InHimshallIbe hasn't done anything except vote for me.

[TheSkeward]

VV: I know right.

I don't think either wagon is exceptionally strong at this point, but we have to start somewhere.

(referring to danakillsu and Karma)

I like a MonkeyManlynch better than Karma, because Karma has not mentioned MonkeyMan but MonkeyMan is keeping his options open when it comes to lynching Karma. This is surprising because their opinions (dana is scum) appear to be identical, as do their "reasons". Furthermore, Karma could just be a VI following someone with an opinion, whereas MonkeyMan's post I quoted earlier is a calculated attempt to paint scumminess into a post.

@danakillsu: What are your thoughts on MonkeyMan? Read my earlier post on him and tell me what you think, please. Consider switching votes; inHim has not been posting and may be replaced.

@muh316, Anon, VasudeVa: I've provided reasons why I think that, although similar, a MonkeyMan lynch is better than a Karma lynch. Do you agree? Would you jump onto this wagon?

[MonkeyMan576]

Why wouldn't I keep my options open when there's a lack of evidence? Trying to paint someone into a corner where they have to make a decision when a decision isn't necessary is scummy(false dilemma).

[inHimshallibe]

I would join the Karma wagon, but at least Karma's trying. InHimshallIbe hasn't done anything except vote for me.

Bah, you're probably town.

vote: MonkeyMan

[ekiM]

I see SD hasn't posted on-site since asking his rolefishing questionaire.

@Mod: Would you kindly prod Shadow Dancer?

dana's case on inHim really is fuckall and his wording and overreaction ("Way to say something negative about me with no basis etc.") are irking but looking at some of his other games (yay new forums) that might just be a posting style thing. Shorter: I'm not getting much useful out of the main argument that's happened so far, unfortunately.

Looking at the other players I see Zang's only comments have been random votes and answers to non-useful questions. Since that finished he's been involved in other game threads whilst neglecting this one.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Zang

[Shadow Dancer]

I'm still here. Site move and marathon day absorbed the time I had scheduled for my first analysis. I have no time to properly read the threat now. I'll post a wlk through analysis either tomorrow or Saturday. Please excuse the inconvenience, I'll certainly show this game the attention it deserves soon.

[Scott Brosius]

I would join the Karma wagon, but at least Karma's trying. InHimshallIbe hasn't done anything except vote for me.

Bah, you're probably town.

vote: MonkeyMan

Are you going to explain this vote or what?

Unvote
Vote: inHim

[danakillsu]

@ The Skeward
I think you're right, and for that reason I like the MonkeyMan wagon as well, but I still prefer inHim, because he just voted AGAIN with no reasoning.
Right now I would lynch:
inHim
MonkeyMan
Karma (maybe)

In that order. And ekIM, just try putting yourself in my shoes. Most people on this forum would probably resort to foul language if they recieved three votes in two pages with little to no reasoning.

[Zang]

Yeah, you seem overly concerned about one vote, that's a scumtell. As far as the mod is concerned, if I were you I'd be more interested in scumhunting than mod complimenting. So who do you think is scum so far?

This is suspicous. There were three votes on Dana when he posted the post that you quoted (one of which was yours). And how could he be scumhunting until a few posts before this it was the RVS.

The whole case against Dana is flawed. And I see almost nothing from karma except "He is scum, vote for him!".

Unvote
Vote:Karma

Looking at the other players I see Zang's only comments have been random votes and answers to non-useful questions. Since that finished he's been involved in other game threads whilst neglecting this one.

What? Before today, I haven't posted anything outside of RVS like you, SB and SD. And InHimshallibe is pretty much active lurking. why vote for me?

[Karma]

How is the whole case flawed? He gets insanely defensive over some good ol' fashioned RVS OMGUSing and then freaks out when Monkey says he's not scumhunting. Those are scummy actions. I want dana lynched.

[Zang]

Are you going to keep saying the same accusations that have already been answered over again or will you come up with something new?

[TheSkeward]

Is anyone actually reading my posts? Zang, you point out MonkeyMan's scummy post, point out that Karma agrees with it, and proceed to vote Karma instead of MonkeyMan.

At this point I'm thinking the Karma wagon is scumdriven. It's the only thing that adequately explains the fact that Player A does something scummy, Player B agrees, and everyone wants to lynch Player B while muttering "sure, A's scum too but I want a B lynch".

[Karma]

How have these accusations been answered?

[Anon]

He obviously voted for me simply because I was voting for him, and didn't even bother giving a fake reason for it. Just because it's "RVS" doesn't mean OMGUS is impossible.

^^^scummy

also, anon, why vote me for the emoticons and not muh, who two posts above me wrote this:

wow i didnt even know that the topic started.

Vote karma

I FREAKIN LOVE THE YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

muh is partially right, the scumtell obviously tends to lose its accuracy in random voting stages and to win accuracy while getting into the game.

[Anon]

I think you guys are overreacting to dana complimenting the mod. I don't think that writing an extra sentence is actually gonna stop you from scumhunting.

Except he's not scumhunting.

im no fan of his scumhunting techiques (voting with no reason is a nulltell) but by page 2 he has scumhunted more than a lot of players in the game. What makes him special?

[Anon]

Except he's not scumhunting.

Way to say something negative about me with no basis. It's the second page, I have revealed one person as acting scummily, and you are already accusing me of not scumhunting. Who made you king of MafiaScum? I missed the coronation.
My case on inHimshallIbe is a better one than most people have, especially you.

Moar votes plz

why?