Mini 989 - Disgaea Mafia Episode 2 (Game Over!)

Iecerint · Post Post #175 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:46 am

You said earlier that there was a specific explanation for my behavior that you would accept, because you've found yourself in such a position as town, or something like that. Since that doesn't appear to have factored into your analysis given your most recent post, what were you referring to?

(I always self-meta. Namely, I did it with you in Linked Role Chaos v2.0 D1. [/self-meta])

TheButtonmen · Post Post #176 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:47 am

@Mod:

What's the deadline situation?

dramonic · Post Post #177 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:01 am

Votecount 2: New World!

UK (1): Riceballtail
Kise (3): DavidParker, Thebuttonmen, MoI
Kthxbye (1): Jarti
Iecerint (4): Nacho, kthxbye, DTM, UncertainKitten
MagnaOfIllusion (1): Iecerint

Not Voting (2): Foobert, Kise

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch
Deadline has been reinstored for the 27th.

UncertainKitten · Post Post #178 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:02 am

behavior and intent are about the same thing IMO. You didn't demonstrate the intent I expected. It's hard to explain what I was looking for, but what it was wasn't there.

Anyway, how about you link the game and show me.

...we have forced preview now? Fucking win.

dramonic · Post Post #179 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:03 am

prods for DTM and Nacho!

Iecerint · Post Post #180 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:08 am

This is a post from the recent game we both played in that does what I'm talking about.

Iecerint · Post Post #181 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:09 am

So, what would have been the "intent" in not noticing something? Like, "I was focused elsewhere"?

UncertainKitten · Post Post #182 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:23 am

Situations were different, in the meta example you provide. You engage in direct WIFOM here. Your meta defense there was over the use of a word.

It's really, really, hard to explain, Iec. It's not even precisely what you say but how you say it. I'm still working out the details myself. It makes it hard to push a case until I get a clear idea of what looks scummy. If I were to guess now, it was the intent in your self meta.

Iecerint · Post Post #183 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:30 am

1A. Yeah, but it's nonetheless a confirmed-town instance of me claiming that I always/often self-meta as town. Unless I was lying as town, you can assume that that much is probably accurate. That game's instance came to mind because I used almost the very same words as in this game.

1B. I can think of other times when I've used self-meta, too, but the other instance that really comes to mind is ongoing.

2. Fair enough.

DTMaster · Post Post #184 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:26 pm

Sorry. I'm at work but I got my prod. Will comment shortly.

UncertainKitten · Post Post #185 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:51 pm

Actually, IIRC you said you always self meta, which makes it, at best, a null tell. This argument has gotten stupid though.

Iecerint · Post Post #186 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:01 pm

It makes it at

worst

a null tell.* (That, or I am self-deluded about my playstyle.) Because if it were worse than a null tell, I'd have been deliberately misleading as town. Agreed @ the other though.

UncertainKitten · Post Post #187 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:02 pm

I say at best because I argue you self meta differently as town or scum, and since your current self meta there was different from the town example, it doesn't look good.

Iecerint · Post Post #188 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:44 pm

You are a frustrating lady at best. That is all.

UncertainKitten · Post Post #189 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:58 pm

Oh, I'm hella irritating.

TheButtonmen · Post Post #190 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:00 pm

UncertainKitten wrote: This argument has gotten stupid though.

Iecerint · Post Post #191 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:03 pm

WELL INTRODUCE YOUR OWN ARGUMENT, THEN, PARTY-POOPER.

@ TBM.

TheButtonmen · Post Post #192 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:06 pm

FINE MAYBE I WILL!

LET'S LYNCH KISE!

UncertainKitten · Post Post #193 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:07 pm

Why would we lynch Kise again?

Iecerint · Post Post #194 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:10 pm

I want to lynch Magna.

TheButtonmen · Post Post #195 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:13 pm

UncertainKitten wrote:Why would we lynch Kise again?

Sweet we already lynched him!?!?

Oh wait....... way to get my hopes up UK.

The main reason is that he

got a scum role PM

A) was / is showing a fair amount of cognitive dissonance and is actively showing that he isn't going to change the way he is playing. B) his long post on page 7 is about 8 kinds of scummy.

May I add the lack of formal ISO and the lack of posts numbers is giving me multiple sads.

UncertainKitten · Post Post #196 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:16 pm

I actually got a slight town vibe from that post. Mostly relating to how he responded to me.

UncertainKitten · Post Post #197 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:16 pm

EBWOP: Regardless, can you show me the post where the cognitive dissonance occurs again? I know it's been mentioned before but yeah.

TheButtonmen · Post Post #198 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:23 pm

Not one post; trend throughout every single one of his posts.

Sort thread by authors; Kise starts midway down page 4; just read his posts in order.

It jumps out with neon lights and a safety vest, while waving flares.

TheButtonmen · Post Post #199 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:24 pm

If you want me to highlight specfic examples I'll be happy to but I feel just reading his posts in ISO will get the point across right well.