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Post Post #1700 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:53 am

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<Insert pleasant surprise at Sevis/Shrine flip

Oh well. I was serious when I said his flip, no matter what it was, would say LOADS about other people~

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Post Post #1701 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:55 am

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Unsight is scum for NOT assisting your mislynch? Which, incidentally, you said you were prepared to die for yesterday?

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Post Post #1702 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:56 am

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Unsight is scum for KNOWING it would be a mislynch,and therefore not have any part of it.

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Post Post #1703 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:02 pm

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Post Post #1704 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:04 pm

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Oh. Stop being such a downer Leaf. Your in the same boat as well~
Plus add the fact that you were asked questions, and you dodged them. Which by the way, is Anti-Town~
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Post Post #1705 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:10 pm

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Explain, firstly, how Unsight could "know" it was gonna be a mislynch. I suppose you're accusing him (and me) of being Mafia Werewolves?

And I haven't avoided answering a single valid question.
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Post Post #1706 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:35 pm

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Now now Leaf. You can't decide whether or not a question is 'valid', and not answer them because of that. A question is a question, and if your town, it shouldn't matter how 'valid' it is, you just anwser it and move on. Yet you didn't even have the common decency to do even that. So yeah, you
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Post Post #1707 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:39 pm

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Um, MS, Unsight is dumbtown, not smartscum. And your theory is total crap.

3 kills is shocking especially considering our N1 with only a single kill.
Even a doctor doesn't explain the lack of two kills. I take back what I said about nhammen's roleblock N1 - he may just have hit scum with it by sheer luck. I didn't expect 3 kills last night, to say the least.
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Post Post #1708 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:45 pm

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So you don't think there's scm in those who blatantly refused to join either wagon of Sevis/Shrine, Dr.Robo; Parma??
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Post Post #1709 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:45 pm

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Not saying that. I'm saying your vote is stupid.
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Post Post #1710 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:47 pm

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Then why do you assume that Unsight is...how did you put it...'dumbtown" then?
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Post Post #1711 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:48 pm

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Well for starters there were 10 people off the wagon and they can't all be scum
Plus Unsight hasn't done that many scummy things, though he's wrong on many many things.
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Post Post #1712 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:50 pm

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The most numbers of scum in this could be is 8...four to each mafia. At the most. -shrugs-

So who do you think is scum on the list of those who didn't join them then?
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Post Post #1713 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:53 pm

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Well, frankly I'm not interested in anybody who was off the wagon right now.
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All of which happen to have been on the wagon
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Post Post #1714 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:54 pm

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*note: I don't have a particularly scummy read on Socrates but he's there because of nhammen's roleblock which, after last night, seems much more likely to have hit scum than I'd have thought yesterday.
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Post Post #1715 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:55 pm

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:lol: Being frank is always a good thing most of the time.
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Post Post #1716 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:11 pm

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This looks really bad for me.

So ya, I considered saying that I would just take my mislynch like a man so that that issue could be resolved, but assuming 3-3 scum teams, the town could potentially in danger of being 1 person away from losing total majority tomorrow. (That would be 3-3-8, assuming the third kill came from a vig, 3-3-1-7 if it is an SK would be even worse).

Thinking about it, the chances of two pro-town kill preventing roles working OTHER than Nhammen are astronomically low (even assuming that they would exist), and, unless this third killer had strong reason to not kill night 1, there is a high likely hood that the scum teams have some form of kill protection of their own. (Godfather or mafia doc, most likely.) These roles will not be found in the Monk/Mason groups, even if there is scum there. (That is to say, I am thinking that a cross-kill got prevented night 1. I am going to go back and re-read the start of day 2 with this in mind later)

Speaking of the Monk/masons, if there is scum in that group, it will most likely be the third Monk (has this spot claimed? I never saw one.)

I am going to throw out all of my current reads and start from scratch, since I think I was on the complete wrong track yesterday.
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Post Post #1717 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:16 pm

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ITT: Midnight's Sorrow claims people are scum for not mislynching a townie. Also, you promised you'd take a lynch if he flipped town. I suppose you forgot about that one, huh?
Midnight's Sorrow wrote:Now now Leaf. You can't decide whether or not a question is 'valid', and not answer them because of that. A question is a question, and if your town, it shouldn't matter how 'valid' it is, you just anwser it and move on. Yet you didn't even have the common decency to do even that. So yeah, you
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Firstly, answer the main bit of the post.
Leafsnail wrote:Explain, firstly, how Unsight could "know" it was gonna be a mislynch. I suppose you're accusing him (and me) of being Mafia Werewolves?
Secondly, answering useless questions from scum serves no purpose tho the town. Which valid questions do you think I've dodged?

In other news, Socrates could just as easily be the vig/ SK who killed last night (ninja'd) apparently not.

No, third monk hasn't claimed yet.
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Post Post #1718 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:25 pm

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OMG you guys are idiots.

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Seriously. WTF. One person dies when PRO-TOWN ROLEBLOCKER blocks someone. Next night, three die. What do you need?
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Post Post #1719 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:26 pm

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Leafsnail wrote:ITT: Midnight's Sorrow claims people are scum for not mislynching a townie. Also, you promised you'd take a lynch if he flipped town. I suppose you forgot about that one, huh?
I haven't forgotten it Leaf. If the
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Leafsnail wrote:Which valid questions do you think I've dodged?
First, I've already answered that "question"(Lulz, if your gonna ask a question use this baby '?' It works wonders~).

And let's see....hmmm....there was the one where you practically gave a repetition on why you were voting me, when the question wasn't "Why are you voting MS" but "Why him, when others could apply to your reasoning's" You didn't even mention the other people, and just said what you said in your vote post. That wasn't an answer. Then there was the one where you were asked "Why are you not voting Sevis/Shrine when you think him scummy?" You pretty much dodged that one. I just wonder why...-shrugs-
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Post Post #1720 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:27 pm

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Lowell wrote:OMG you guys are idiots.

vote socrates


Seriously. WTF. One person dies when PRO-TOWN ROLEBLOCKER blocks someone. Next night, three die. What do you need?
I need to agree with this sentiment.
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Post Post #1721 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:34 pm

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Midnight's Sorrow wrote:I haven't forgotten it Leaf. If the Town as a whole feels this is necessary, I will gladly do it. But two does not a whole town make, and I don't even consider you and SSBF town anyways so call me ballzy.~
This does not require a response. You said you were so sure he was scum you'd die if he wasn't.

Now you've amended that to "If the town lynches me, I'll be lynched".

Also: ANSWER. THE. FUCKING. QUESTION. NOW.
Explain, firstly, how Unsight could "know" it was gonna be a mislynch. I suppose you're accusing him (and me) of being Mafia Werewolves?
I found Sevis scummy on day one. By day two he was blatantly being bandwagonned by scum. Also, you're calling me scum for not MISLYNCHING a damn TOWNIE again.

And I've said why I'm voting you again. And again. And again. AND FUCKING AGAIN. Noone else is deflecting like you are. If someone is randomly deflecting instead of defending/ explaining their actions when pushed (fairly randomly, at first) they are scum.
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Post Post #1722 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:41 pm

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Leafsnail wrote:
Midnight's Sorrow wrote:I haven't forgotten it Leaf. If the Town as a whole feels this is necessary, I will gladly do it. But two does not a whole town make, and I don't even consider you and SSBF town anyways so call me ballzy.~
This does not require a response. You said you were so sure he was scum you'd die if he wasn't.

Now you've amended that to "If the town lynches me, I'll be lynched".
I just wonder why a Townie role would jump on it as quick as you have....
Leafsnail wrote:Also: ANSWER. THE. FUCKING. QUESTION. NOW.
Explain, firstly, how Unsight could "know" it was gonna be a mislynch. I suppose you're accusing him (and me) of being Mafia Werewolves?
LMFAO!!!

Shouldn't it be obvious that I am??? Must I hold your hand, as we cross the busy street??
Leafsnail wrote:I found Sevis scummy on day one. By day two he was blatantly being bandwagonned by scum. Also, you're calling me scum for not MISLYNCHING a damn TOWNIE again.
And what pray tell does Sevis/Shrine eventually flipping Town have anything to do with D2???
Leafsnail wrote:And I've said why I'm voting you again. And again. And again. AND FUCKING AGAIN. Noone else is deflecting like you are. If someone is randomly deflecting instead of defending/ explaining their actions when pushed (fairly randomly, at first) they are scum.
And again, the question wasn't even really about me, but the others that your beginning reasons could apply to. You seem to think that the things AFTER the fact are important. Yet they aren't. Not even close.
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Post Post #1723 (ISO) » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:46 pm

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@
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Please?? With a cherry on top?
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Explain, firstly, how Unsight could "know" it was gonna be a mislynch. I suppose you're accusing him (and me) of being Mafia Werewolves?

Midnight's Scum wrote:I just wonder why a Townie role would jump on it as quick as you have....
Blatant lying scum is blatant.
Midnight's Scum wrote:Shouldn't it be obvious that I am??? Must I hold your hand, as we cross the busy street??
Ok. So you're accusing him of being a role that doesn't exist.

Awesome.
Scum wrote:And what pray tell does Sevis/Shrine eventually flipping Town have anything to do with D2???
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Scum wrote:And again, the question wasn't even really about me, but the others that your beginning reasons could apply to. You seem to think that the things AFTER the fact are important. Yet they aren't. Not even close.
Noone else has been acting in even remotely the same way. Please name someone who's had the same reaction when pushed, for instance.

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