Last Will Mafia II (Over)

[RichardGHP]

Vote: CryMeARiver

Claim or die.

SSBF, you too.

[RichardGHP]

Page 4 is FAR to early for RVS to be over in a LARGE THEME GAME.

Regardless of that:

Unvote, Vote: Super Smash Bros. Fan

because he is scum.

[RichardGHP]

SSBF, RVS isn't about fun, it's about gauging reactions out of people. Normal play can not start until this happens. Longer RVS = longer Day 1 = more chance of a scumslip.

[RichardGHP]

Day-investigate: Shattered Viewpoint

Day-commute

[RichardGHP]

Hey guys, I just thought of something...

Maybe Shattered Viewpoint has a post restriction?

[RichardGHP]

He could still have a post restriction.

An RVS quickhammer happens once in a blue moon.

We can't scumhunt without a decent RVS. For the record, 5 pages does not a decent RVS make. Especially in a LTG.

[RichardGHP]

I lol'd.

[RichardGHP]

That's the thing, I don't know if SV is prone to do things like that. Has anyone here played with him before? If so, is it in his nature to troll in such a manner?

[RichardGHP]

Oh Jesus Christ don't you start

[RichardGHP]

Not really.

[RichardGHP]

To do what?

[RichardGHP]

millar is scum.

Unvote, Vote: millar13

Only scum would make such accusations. And it's not like he doesn't know how things are done around here.

[RichardGHP]

Thanks for confirming that you're scum, millar.

[RichardGHP]

Jester?

[RichardGHP]

Fine...didn't realize f*ck offended people,

unless there churchys

wow just wow

[RichardGHP]

Richard's posts about Millar are scummy.

Cool reasoning bro.

[RichardGHP]

Congrats Amished, you just created the worst vote I've ever seen.

If you're going to falsely accuse me, at least provide evidence. Otherwise, stop trolling.

[RichardGHP]

And Amished, on the off-chance that your vote was reaction-bait, don't even bother.

[RichardGHP]

Congrats Amished, you just created the worst vote I've ever seen.

If you're going to falsely accuse me, at least provide evidence. Otherwise, stop trolling.

if this wasn't OMGUS then I dont know what is

VOTE: RichardGHP

It's not OMGUS at all. It's a legitmate questioning of the validity of the vote. Your vote sucks too, as does Kmd's.

I'm still yet to hear any actual reasoning.

[RichardGHP]

Congrats Amished, you just created the worst vote I've ever seen.

If you're going to falsely accuse me, at least provide evidence. Otherwise, stop trolling.

if this wasn't OMGUS then I dont know what is

VOTE: RichardGHP

It's not OMGUS at all. It's a legitmate questioning of the validity of the vote. Your vote sucks too, as does Kmd's.

I'm still yet to hear any actual reasoning.

do you even know what omgus is its OMG U SUCK for voting me, you did exactly that and its usually a pretty good scum tell

Did you pass third grade? Because it really doesn't look like it.

[RichardGHP]

Congrats Amished, you just created the worst vote I've ever seen.

If you're going to falsely accuse me, at least provide evidence. Otherwise, stop trolling.

How about you go back to the first time that I voted you?

No, I mean actual evidence.

In other words, not "Oh this thing that never actually happened bugs me so Vote: Richard"

[RichardGHP]

Did you pass third grade? Because it really doesn't look like it.

Wow, you are resorting to insulting people's intelligent level. That's pretty sad.

Again, my statement was not unfounded. He was being genuinely stupid and I called him out on it.

[RichardGHP]

Could you tell me your "legitimate reason"?

[RichardGHP]

Congrats Amished, you just created the worst vote I've ever seen.

If you're going to falsely accuse me, at least provide evidence. Otherwise, stop trolling.

@RichardGHP: You asked for what my legitimate reason was for voteing you so here it is

my main reason is you inital reaction to anyone voteing you, you tend to insult and get hostile

Like here instead of just asking him why he voted you, you said hey thats the worst vote ever provide evidence or stop trolling. TBH voting you isn't trolling it's playing the game

by RichardGHP » Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:14 pm

And Amished, on the off-chance that your vote was reaction-bait, don't even bother.

this is the reason I actually made my vote I wanted to see the reaction i would get

I get

by RichardGHP » Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:43 am

holycon wrote:
RichardGHP wrote:
Congrats Amished, you just created the worst vote I've ever seen.

If you're going to falsely accuse me, at least provide evidence. Otherwise, stop trolling.


if this wasn't OMGUS then I dont know what is

VOTE: RichardGHP


It's not OMGUS at all. It's a legitmate questioning of the validity of the vote. Your vote sucks too, as does Kmd's.

I'm still yet to hear any actual reasoning.

You tell me my and KMD's votes suck as well you don't ever really defend your self

by RichardGHP » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:58 pm

holycon wrote:
RichardGHP wrote:
holycon wrote:
RichardGHP wrote:
Congrats Amished, you just created the worst vote I've ever seen.

If you're going to falsely accuse me, at least provide evidence. Otherwise, stop trolling.


if this wasn't OMGUS then I dont know what is

VOTE: RichardGHP


It's not OMGUS at all. It's a legitmate questioning of the validity of the vote. Your vote sucks too, as does Kmd's.

I'm still yet to hear any actual reasoning.


do you even know what omgus is its OMG U SUCK for voting me, you did exactly that and its usually a pretty good scum tell


Did you pass third grade? Because it really doesn't look like it.

and this here you scumber to insults again insulting me instead of defending yourself this sends red flags for me why would you feel the need to insult everyone for voteing you maybe because your scum?

You make no sense. Why, even if I WAS scum, would I feel the need to insult everyone for voting me? Pro-tip: I wouldn't, so your logic fails - AGAIN

[RichardGHP]

Wikitells, that is.

[RichardGHP]

Wikitells are basically faux scumtells.

[RichardGHP]

I must admit, the prince(ss) claim made me laugh... still determining if I should believe it or not. It is a rather odd and rare role given the circumstances, you have to admit. And the claim looks out of place.

Unvote

so I can clear my head.

[RichardGHP]

The hell is with all the replacements? ITT Llama should install a revolving door.

[RichardGHP]

I must admit, the prince(ss) claim made me laugh... still determining if I should believe it or not. It is a rather odd and rare role given the circumstances, you have to admit. And the claim looks out of place.

Unvote

so I can clear my head.

Were you really voting millar based solely on a roleclaim that was way early and never required to be given? I thought there was more too it for some reason.

There was. Read some more.

[RichardGHP]

?????

[RichardGHP]

Uh... the mod PM'd ani about it?

[RichardGHP]

You don't get to dictate these things, you know.

unvote

Vote: Shattered Viewpoint

[RichardGHP]

Point taken.

Unvote

[RichardGHP]

You neglect to mention me all game and then point out one null post for use against me?

Wow.

[RichardGHP]

vote rhinox

[RichardGHP]

Unvote
Vote: Raider

[RichardGHP]

None of the other wagons are worth pushing and there's no point in not voting.

[RichardGHP]

Any wagon I form wouldn't take off anyway.

[RichardGHP]

Believe me, most cases I make only take off when a) I'm clear, b) a lot of people are FoSing that person or c) when the game is full of easily convinced newbs.

And, you're by far the leading wagon, so even though my view is pessimistic, I don't think you can validly call it scum-like. There are a couple of other people I'd rather lynch, but it just won't happen.

[RichardGHP]

It might help if your avatar were less dreary, Rich. See: GD discussion.

Unvote Vote Raider

What do you mean by this?

[RichardGHP]

Pittbunny, I meant the thing about GD Discussion. No idea what you're talking about at all.

[RichardGHP]

CSL's last post (beginning + end) seems pretty accurate. Xite's 535 strikes me as townie pseudo-humour, as I doubt scum would dare post something quite so horrible.

The middle part is a little odd, though.

PoS: CSL

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[RichardGHP]

Not OMGUS.

Get your definitions straight.

[RichardGHP]

No, richard I'm pretty sure that's right

Wrong.

[RichardGHP]

What connections would my flip make clearer?

If I flip town, who is scum? What about if I flip scum?

[RichardGHP]

What info would you get from it?

[RichardGHP]

...

Don't avoid the question again. Or else.

[RichardGHP]

What I wanted to know was, if I flip town, who do you think is likely to be scum. Same question again, but assuming a scum flip.

You did kind of answer the question though so I don't have to act on my threat. Yet.

[RichardGHP]

Big mistake, buddy.

(No, "buddy" is not a breadcrumb.)

[RichardGHP]

Unvote

[RichardGHP]

...

[RichardGHP]

Vote: Xite

Oh My God, You Suck.

[RichardGHP]

Rhinox, I'm no troll, and I haven't been OMGUSing all game. The fact that you can't see it doesn't give you licence to declare otherwise.

[RichardGHP]

Ok, Richardfail.

I created the OMGUS vote as a gambit to see if I could form a wagon on myself, whereupon I would analyse the votes to determine the scum who latched onto an easy vote. ani was the only one that really stuck out in my mind. The gambit as a whole turned out to be something of a missed opportunity. A little more action regarding it would have been nice.

So, lynch me if you want. If you decide to, ani, SSBF and millar are scum (kill them please !!) and Ythan, Xite, Twomz, Rhinox and Amished are town. Keep them alive.

Unvote

[RichardGHP]

You'd be very hard pressed to find an actual OMGUS vote that didn't occur a) as part of a gambit or b) during RVS. Fact is, actual OMGUS votes that have no correlation with either of those two things just... don't exist.

[RichardGHP]

Millar is scum, make no mistake. He just might not be mafia.

And, there is only one kind of OMGUS: Voting a person solely for the reason that they are voting you. People need to learn this, and that two people crossvoting each other doesn't always consitute OMGUS. Almost nothing in mafia annoys me more.

Vote Chronopie

How is your read on Rhinox affected assuming a town flip from me?

[RichardGHP]

Ythan: Ever heard of giving someone the benefit of the doubt? It's fun; you should try it some time.

[RichardGHP]

Pittbunny, you should believe that I was gambiting (and not backtracking) because I said so. As a townie I have no reason to make real OMGUS votes and attempt to cover it up afterwards. As scum, it would be a nail in the coffin. The only

logical

explanation is gambiting. The outcome of the gambit is not indicative of alignment.

[RichardGHP]

I made the OMGUS vote on Monday. I informed the town 3 days later, on Thursday. I'd say that's ample time enough for a meaningful amount of data to present itself in. Instead, an insufficient amount of data (votes, FoSes) was brought to the table, which is the dominant attribute to the failure of the gambit.

Also, not faith, common sense. Neither Ythan nor anyone has the unequivocal right to declare something as BS without consultation or an apparent willingness, however slight, to change viewpoints. Presumption of guilt is infinitely inferior to presumption of innocence.

Preview Edit: Get over yourself, Twomz.

[RichardGHP]

Mod: Replace me please

.

Otherwise the integrity of this game and myself are about to become compromised. One more smug comment out of Xite or Ythan would do it, I think. I don't want to be in a game where people think like that.

[RichardGHP]

By the way, don't even bother posting anything along the lines of:

"Oh dis guys scum bcuz he quit cuz he got voted for!!1!1!!"

[RichardGHP]

Mod: If you haven't found a replacement for me yet, hold fire. I might still be able and willing to play.

I am a CPR Doctor. I am like a regular doctor, with the exception that if I target someone who is not being killed, they die. It is for this reason that I didn't protect anyone last night. Not really sure if it's even worth keeping me around, since I'm likely to end up either killing townies or sitting on my butt doing nothing for most of the game. Do with the claim what you will.

[RichardGHP]

No.

[RichardGHP]

Kmd: Yes, it does.

[RichardGHP]

How so?

[RichardGHP]

Amished, I didn't forget to protect last night. Learn to read. If you already know how, don't jump to extravagant conclusions.

[RichardGHP]

Still here, will answer questions later if still alive, no time now.

[RichardGHP]

Prod received, still here.

I didn't kill millar because I figured he would be killed by someone else, and targeting him in that instance would circumvent the kill.

[RichardGHP]

See that? Anything I say in response to the question asked is going to be wrong. I'm not going to be answering any more.

[RichardGHP]

Stop throwing a tantrum. Play the game or replace out plox

QFT. quit being emo.

No.

[RichardGHP]

Refusing to answer questions =/= a tantrum.

[RichardGHP]

Vote: EGL

[RichardGHP]

I just can't do anything right, can I?

[RichardGHP]

Then stop giving me cause to resort to it.

[RichardGHP]

I will not be directed on who to "doc".

[RichardGHP]

I don't owe them anything, and I'm certainly not going to have my night actions dictated by any random townie. I am not the town's slave. I do not work for them. Therefore, they do not have license to boss me around. If that means I have to be lynched, so be it. I will not budge on this.

[RichardGHP]

I targetted millar, obv.

[RichardGHP]

Yes.

[RichardGHP]

Millar needed to die.

I don't doubt that Ythan is who he says he is. The simplest (and therefore correct) explanation is that one of us was roleblocked. Unvote please and thank you.

[RichardGHP]

I reaffirm my initial statement which explains last night's occurences: One of Ythan or myself was roleblocked.

[RichardGHP]

I'm not voting for him.

[RichardGHP]

FoS Magua

[RichardGHP]

Vote: Charlie

Scum buddying up to town.

[RichardGHP]

Nothing OMGUS or horrible about that vote at all

[RichardGHP]

Anti-prod post.

I will probably respond to some of the new guy's wall today. Currently not liking the Ythan/Batt/MSH debate.

[RichardGHP]

1483 makes very little sense. Batt, could you please rearrange it into one coherent thought?

[RichardGHP]

Also, if SSBF flips scum, you're scum.

Don't like comments like these. What makes you sure beyond reasonable doubt that one person can be mafia based entirely on someone else's roleflip?

[RichardGHP]

It seems that my lynch is virtually inevitable at this point; if you could afford me a few extra hours to rearrange my will, I would be most grateful.

[RichardGHP]

Will is amended, lynch if you must.

Obviously I would advise against it.

[RichardGHP]

Unvote, Vote SSBF

[RichardGHP]

Bah.