Last Will Mafia II (Over)

[LlamaFluff]

Vote Count

raider8169 (8) - Charlie, Rhinox, Super Smash Bros. Fan, Chevre, nachomamma8, RichardGHP, CSL, Pittbunny
CSL (4) - millar13, Twomz, animorpherv1, Amished
Shattered Viewpoint (2) - danakillsu, EGL
RichardGHP (2) - holycon, Xite91
Super Smash Bros. Fan (1) - Shattered Viewpoint
Chronopie (1) - Diacria

Not Voting (5) - The King Of Eggs, Reverse Simplicity, kmd4390, chronopie, raider8169

[Amished]

@raider: I told you I wasn't tunneling.

Besides, tunneling is a scumtell? Since when? Who else are you suspicious of?

[Rhinox]

You neglect to mention me all game and then point out one null post for use against me?

Wow.

vote rhinox

hahahaha... at least you could have pretended to come up with something, instead of OMGUS because... I said I didn't like you?

Rhinox is not scumhunting. At all.

Vote: Rhinox

Please provide examples of which posts of mine are not scumhunting and why.


@ both of you: You both seemed to forget about voting me awfully quick... what gives? Whats with all the vote hopping?

[RichardGHP]

Not OMGUS.

Get your definitions straight.

[Xite91]

No, richard I'm pretty sure that's right

[raider8169]

@raider: I told you I wasn't tunneling.

Besides, tunneling is a scumtell? Since when? Who else are you suspicious of?

I never felt like you were even paying attention to other people's posts, now I believe you.

Right now I would be ok with lynching Twomz or RichardGHP. That or any of the slots that have yet to do anything in this game.

[Xite91]

So, lets go for Richard. I'm waiting to get more of a read on Twomz... right now he just seems off, whether that could be him being scum or scummy town, I'm not too sure
Richard however, will be a burden if town, and if not, well then there ya go

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

CSL is making absolutely no sense with his recent posting. These are worthy of facepalms as they do not contribute to the game in any shape or form. A highlight of his recent scumminess is his major inconsistency today. Will look more closely at CSL later on.

As far as I know, raider has not scumhunted. I know I haven't, but at least I'm trying.

Any logic to this? You say that raider isn't scum hunting, then say that you haven't, but trying. Since you admit to not scum hunting, that means you need to get off your butt and do something.

UNVOTE; VOTE: Raider as per what Charlie said.

Are you seriously sheeping off a person who barely pushed a wagon at all? At best, this exhibits a lazy town, at worst, it's very scummy sheeping.

You know what, go ahead. There's nothing I can do now.

Just want to point out that I hate this AtE mentality you're exhbiting here. If you're not willing to fight against your lynch and help the town (If you're one), then you need to die.

[RichardGHP]

No, richard I'm pretty sure that's right

Wrong.

[LlamaFluff]

Magua replaces The King Of Eggs
Chevre has been prodded

[Twomz]

Any particular reason for me raider? Or are you just throwing out names you think others would agree with to get pressure of your wagon?

[Charlie]

Right now I would be ok with lynching Twomz or RichardGHP. That or any of the slots that have yet to do anything in this game.

What about CSL?

[raider8169]

Any particular reason for me raider? Or are you just throwing out names you think others would agree with to get pressure of your wagon?

You have said that you need to do ISO's for a while now and have yet to do anything on that. I get the feeling you are stalling and making false promises. Some of your other posts feel forced. I get the feeling you are hiding something or just playing oddly.

[raider8169]

Right now I would be ok with lynching Twomz or RichardGHP. That or any of the slots that have yet to do anything in this game.

What about CSL?

CSL is just trying to be heard and has nothing to say. I dont have enough of a read to come to a solid conclusion but I would not oppose him being lynched but I do not think he is at the top of those I would rather see gone.

That said, unless it changes he should not be around for end game.

[Twomz]

I did reread over some people in ISO, but didn't see anything that wasn't already commented on. And then I voted CSL for something that recently happened.

Just cause I say I'm gonna read over something doesn't mean I'm going to post some huge post cutting apart every detail of what someone said (I'll only do that if I think doing so will prove definitively that they're scum... and that can't happen unless they either really screw up or several days in when there are multiple lynches to analyze).

[Amished]

Right now I would be ok with lynching Twomz or RichardGHP. That or any of the slots that have yet to do anything in this game.

What about CSL?

CSL is just trying to be heard and has nothing to say. I dont have enough of a read to come to a solid conclusion but I would not oppose him being lynched but I do not think he is at the top of those I would rather see gone.

That said, unless it changes he should not be around for end game.

So who would you put at the top of your list? With your unvote of me, I haven't seen you mention a single suspect that I can recall.

[Xite91]

Right now I would be ok with lynching Twomz or RichardGHP. That or any of the slots that have yet to do anything in this game.

What about CSL?

CSL is just trying to be heard and has nothing to say. I dont have enough of a read to come to a solid conclusion but I would not oppose him being lynched but I do not think he is at the top of those I would rather see gone.

That said, unless it changes he should not be around for end game.

So who would you put at the top of your list? With your unvote of me, I haven't seen you mention a single suspect that I can recall.

o.0?

Right now I would be ok with lynching Twomz or RichardGHP. That or any of the slots that have yet to do anything in this game.

I'm pretty sure that means he suspects them. He even gave reasoning for Twomz
But I'd like his reasoning for Richard, unless I missed it -This calls for a reread!-

[Amished]

Ahh, stupid busy week/weekend taking up all my time. Nevermind that question...

New question: Are you essentially calling twomz/Richard active lurkers? (for the "slots that haven't done anything this game"). Why no vote on either of them?

[Magua]

Ok, so I did a quick read and jotted down some notes.

Between the two competing wagons at the moment -- CSL and Raider -- I find CSL the scummier of the two, almost entirely due to Pittbunny and CSL both jumping on the raider wagon in #524 and #534, and then the Xite91/CSL interaction on page 23. I just really can't get by CSL voting raider because of his lack of scumhunting while at the same time admitting to his own lack of scumhunting. The cognitive dissonance there is glaring.

However, I'd like to see a Shattered Viewpoint lynch more than a CSL lynch. A refusal to give reason for his votes and act like we're still in RVS when it's obvious we're not. General useless posts that are almost completely content free, almost the definition of active lurking. #481 rubs me the wrong way, and seems like scum who's oppurtunistic for some reason to attack. When this doesn't work, instead of acknowledging it, just lays low and lurks.

In short, much better wagon.

VOTE: Shattered Viewpoint

So far:

Town
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raider8169
rhinox
millar13

Scum
-----
Shattered Viewpoint
CSL

Everyone else, I don't feel strongly one way or the other about yet.

[Diacria]

Gut instinct is that this is CSL-town.

[Diacria]

Raider is also town.
raider8169 (7) - Charlie, Rhinox, Super Smash Bros. Fan, Chevre, nachomamma8, RichardGHP, CSL
^^^There is scum here.

[Pittbunny]

Raider is also town.
raider8169 (7) - Charlie, Rhinox, Super Smash Bros. Fan, Chevre, nachomamma8, RichardGHP, CSL
^^^There is scum here.

You cited 7 people out of 25. From a pure probablistic case, you've got a good chance to be right. However, I don't see why scumonwagon = town, even if you could confirm the fact.

By the way, throw me on that list too. I think the mod overlooked my vote.

@Mod: I think you overlooked my latest vote =p

~Corrected

[Diacria]

There's scum on the wagon because raider is town.

[Pittbunny]

Okay. Congrats. You might have nailed one or two scum, once you sift through the entire list via whatever method you choose. Meanwhile, the rest of the game is still going on.

Your statement is a null-point that only looks like aggressive scumhunting.

[Diacria]

Wagon Analysis is the best thing in Mafia.
And I'll just PoE the town reads of the wagon when I feel like it.