Scummers Mafia: Greatest Bash? (Game Over, Scum wins?)


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Post Post #900 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:09 am

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Unvote; Vote: manho.
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Post Post #901 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:23 am

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I feel that Reck is the center of this little universe of kunk and manho. My vote will not be moving.
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Post Post #902 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:57 am

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Votecount 22: The End!



Reck (3): Manho, Starbuck, Ani
Manho (5): Reck, SpyreX, Benmage, Cuttle, Kunk

Not Voting (1): Nhammen


Manho has been lynched!

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Post Post #903 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:00 am

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Endgame? You mean manho was town?

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Post Post #904 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:19 am

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And then they decided that Manho was definitely the scummiest one of the survivor. It felt kind of weird looking at all this, you know, the death of my comrades, one after the other. I took a deep breath and announced the results of the day.

"It's five to lynch. Manho... I'm sorry"

As we dragged him to the pool in order to drown his resistance, I had a hiccup of disgust. Why would Scummers, people like me, do such kind of monstrosities.

And then it hit me. Suddenly, I snapped out of my drunken stupor. Where there used to be the group now stood different people. Scummers still, but different one. I saw that the one'd we'd just drowned wasnt Manho but Kublai Khan. As I checked his pocket to see if he was part of the "mafia", something hit me in the back of the head and I blacked out. The end of this tale is all conjecture of what must've happened, as I was unconscious at the time, but here goes anyways:

When Kublai flipped vanilla, we looked at each other worringly. If this... setup was balanced, that meant doom for us. As if to confirm my fears, I saw Benmage, Reck and Cuttlefish Burst into maniacal laughter.

Well, what I thought were Benmage, Cuttlefish and Reckoner. In retrospect it should've been obvious they were actually Albert B. Rampage, Xyl and Percy. They just whipped out a pistol each and shot all of us down.

Starbuck, Nhammen, SpyreX and Ani...

Kmd, Tubby, Deathnote and Shaft.ed...

The only one who didn't move an inch was Kunk. He just stood there, gazing at the pool.

"Why aren't you helping us end those losers, Haylen?" They probably asked.

"I... Hate every single of one you" She screamed, turning to them with her gun out.

But they shot her too, before she could even pull the trigger.

"So... we win?"

"The three of us maybe, but I don't think Battle Mage would count this as a victory. Afterall, I'M the one who killed Benmage, not he."


Manho (Kublai Khan the vanilla townie), lynched day 5
Spyrex (Deathnote the miller), endgamed
Starbuck (Kmd the vote-gambler), endgamed
Nhammen (Tubby the vanilla townie), endgamed
Ani (Shaft.ed the tracker), endgamed


Kunkstar (Haylen the absolute usurper mafia redirector) has survived, but failed to fullfill his win condition and thus loses
Monkeyman (Battle Mage the possessive mafia rolecop) is on the winning faction, but failed to fullfill his win condition and thus loses

Cuttlefish (Xyl the mafia puppeteer) has survived and wins
xRECKONERx (Percy the mafia godfather) has survived and wins
Benmage (ABR the mafia goon) has survived and wins


Congratulations Mafia, you are the winners of Scummers Mafia!


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Post Post #905 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:25 am

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Welcome to Scummers Mafia,
kunkstar
. You are
Haylen
. You blow up the logic of most discussions you enter and are a disruptive yet lovable person. Or so they think...
You are a
Mafia Redirector
. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Mafioso
- You are part of the mafia with BattleMage (Possessive Mafia Namecop), Xyl (Puppetmaster), Albert B. Rampage (Mafia Goon) and Percy (Selective Mafia Godfather). You share a nightkill.
Lone Killer Spirit
- You do not possess the regular mafia wincon.

Active Abilities:

Redirect
- Each Night phase, you may redirect someone's action to another player, using the following format: Redirect (UserA) to (UserB)
Nightkill!
- Your faction shares a mafia kill. I trust I don't need to explain this to you...

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per night.

Here's your QT:

Win Condition (Mafia Absolute Usurper):
You win when you are the only mafioso alive and all other factions have left the game or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.

Welcome to Scummers Mafia,
Benmage
. You are
Albert B. Rampage
. You are known for not letting yourself get walked over and having quite a strong persona. Nonetheless, you would be a great scumhunter, if you weren't busy killing them town people.

You are a
Mafia Goon
(Since you don't need powers to be efficient). You have the following abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Mafioso
- You are part of the mafia with BattleMage (Possessive Mafia Namecop), Haylen (Mafia Redirector), Xylthixlm (Mafia Puppeteer) and Percy (Selective Mafia Godfather). You share a nightkill.

Active Abilities:

Nightkill!
- Your faction shares a mafia kill. I trust I don't need to explain this to you...

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per night.

Here's your QT:

Win Condition (Mafia):
You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.

Welcome to Scummers Mafia,
Cuttlefish
. You are
Xylthixlm
. Creator of Xylbot, you have been in contact with most every role. Now let's kill some of them!
You are a
Puppetmaster
. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Mafioso
- You are part of the mafia with BattleMage (Possessive Mafia Namecop), Haylen (Mafia Redirector), Albert B. Rampage (Mafia Goon) and Percy (Selective Mafia Godfather). You share a nightkill.

Active Abilities:

Puppet Act
- Each Night phase, you may use one of your fellow mafiosos ability, even if that mafioso is also using the ability, as long as said mafioso is alive. Note that you can borrow kill flavours this way, but it will count as the factionnal kill.
Nightkill!
- Your faction shares a mafia kill. I trust I don't need to explain this to you...

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per night.

Here's your QT:

Win Condition (Mafia):
You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.

Welcome to Scummers Mafia,
Monkeyman
. You are
Battle Mage
. You are kind of hard to predict, except in one aspect, your rivalry with that goodie Benmage, whom you hunt restlessly!
You are a
Possessive Mafia Namecop
. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Mafioso
- You are part of the mafia with Haylen (Mafia Redirector), Xyl (Puppetmaster), Albert B. Rampage (Mafia Goon) and Percy (Selective Mafia Godfather). You share a nightkill.
Mine!
- You want Benmage Dead and you want to be responsible for it. Kill him yourself at night or endgame him at the games climax. Should another player kill him or cast the final vote on his lynch wagon then you will switch to hunting that player in this same fashion. If Benmage or any assailant of his is modkilled then this secondary condition is waived.

Active Abilities:

Namecop
- Each Night phase, you may target a player to discover who they actually are.
Nightkill!
- Your faction shares a mafia kill. I trust I don't need to explain this to you...

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per night.

Here's your QT:

Win Condition (Possessive Mafioso):
You win if Benmage belongs to you at the time when the mafia is the only faction remaining, or nothing can prevent the same.

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Welcome to Scummers Mafia,
Reck
. You are
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. Cultists of light, cultists of shadow, cultists of darkness, cultists of ancient evil... Yeah, you're tired of cults now, mafia is so much better! Also, you help me design most of the setups, I can't make you a simple goon heh?

You are a
Selective Mafia Godfather
. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Mafioso
- You are part of the mafia with Haylen (Mafia Redirector), Xyl (Puppetmaster), Albert B. Rampage (Mafia Goon) and Battle Mage (Possessive Mafia Rolecop). You share a nightkill.

Active Abilities:

Don Credit
- Each Night phase, you may either make yourself NK immune, or investigation immune (meaning you'll show innocent if investigated by a sane cop).
Nightkill!
- Your faction shares a mafia kill. I trust I don't need to explain this to you...

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per night.

Here's your QT:

Win Condition (Mafia):
You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.

Welcome to Scummers Mafia,
Hoopla
. You are
Vi
. You would just love to make the setup fit your taste huh? Well, you do have some capacities to... reduce the playerbase.
You are a
Slightly Racist Mason Dayvig
. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Role Racism
- If someone ever claims cop, you will automatically shoot them down. If you already used your vig for the day, you will tear them limb by limb in everyone's sight. The only exception to this ability is if someone claims cop with the direct hope of getting shot down. They will live.
Gun Sharing
- You are in a masonry with Pokerface, Slightly Overeager Mason Nightvig.

Active Abilities:

Day Vigilante
- Each Day phase, you may kill someone by PMing me the name of your helpless victim. Pokerface cannot kill during the next night if you just did.

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per day.

Here's your QT:

Win Condition (Town):
You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.

Welcome to Scummers Mafia,
Ortolan
. You are
Pokerface
. You apparently always appear pro-town, so why not kill people since it's safe? It's not like you're actually a bad person.
You are a
Slightly Overeager Mason Nightvig
. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Trigger-Happy
- You must use your active ability Night 0.
Gun Sharing
- You are in a masonry with Vi, Slightly Racist Mason Dayvig.

Active Abilities:

Night Vigilante
- Each Night phase, you may shoot someone down, as long as Vi didn't shoot during the previous day.

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per night.

Here's your QT:

Win Condition (Town):
You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.

Welcome to Scummers Mafia,
Pomegranate
. You are
Rayfrost
. You are in too many games, with too many posts. So much people don't notice you die.
You are an
Expandable Townie
. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Oh it's just you.
- Day does not end if you are lynched. Actually, deadline resets and the day goes on until a second lynch is reached. You're still dead though.

Active Abilities:

None


Please remember that you can use only one active ability per night.

Win Condition (Town):
You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.

Welcome to Scummers Mafia,
ZazieR
. You are
UncertainKitten
. It's time to scumhunt! Well, since we all know about your... scumhunting prowess, here's some help...
You are a
Cop
. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

None


Active Abilities:

Investigate
- Each Night phase, you may investigate someone by PMing me the name of your chosen target. You will receive innocent, guilty or no result as a response.

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per night.

Win Condition (Town):
You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.
Welcome to Scummers Mafia,
Starbuck
. You are
Kmd4390
. You are a compulsive avatar gambler, but you can't exactly gamble your avatar in this context...
You are a
Vote Gambler
. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Compulsive
- You must use your active ability everytime you can. Failure to submit will result in random target assignation

Active Abilities:

Gamble
- Each Night phase, you may gamble votes with someone. Considering you always lose your bet, treat this as giving someone an extra vote and losing yours. Vote possession reset after each lynch. You will not be told wether your action succeeded or failed.

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per night.

Win Condition (Town):
You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.
Welcome to Scummers Mafia,
PopularTajo
. You are
Benmage
. Your rather fluffy playstyle is almost on par with your rivalry with that Battle Mage!

You are a
Conditionnal Taximan
. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

None


Active Abilities:

BattleMage Taxi
- Each Night phase, you may target a player. If that player is targetting BattleMage, his/her action cannot be blocked or redirected in any way.

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per night.

Win Condition (Town):
You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.

Welcome to Scummers Mafia,
SpyreX
. You are
DeathNote
. You thought you were and always would be the easiest lynch, but it seems CSL is beginning to beat you for that. Here's a bit of extra help to die!

You are a
Miller
. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Scummy Nature
- You are shown as mafia to investigations by sane cops.

Active Abilities:

none


Please remember that you can use only one active ability per night.

Win Condition (Town):
You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.

Welcome to Scummers Mafia,
Papa Zito
. You are
Tarhalindur
. You are renowned for your crazy setups and borderline neurotic mechanics
You are a
Partial Vanillizer
. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Mind Screw
- If you are targetted by an active ability, the player will lose the ability permanently, but still retain any other. The action will still go through to you.

Active Abilities:

None


Please remember that you can use only one active ability per night.

Win Condition (Town):
You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.

Welcome to Scummers Mafia,
Netopalis
. You are
Mr. Flay
. You just love newbies and the younger players, so you want to make sure you get to spend time with them
You are a
Conditionnal Doc
. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

None


Active Abilities:

Descendant Doc
- Each Night phase, you may protect someone from kills. However, if the player you protect's role joined earlier than 12 march 2004 (Mr. Flay's join date), the protection will not go through.

Exemple: If you try to protect Bob, whose role is Mith, you'll fail because Mith joined earlier than Mr. Flay.

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per night.

Win Condition (Town):
You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.

Welcome to Scummers Mafia,
Ani
. You are
Shaft.ed
. Political Officionado of Mafia scum. You know how to keep track of those in charge.

You are a
Tracker
. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

None


Active Abilities:

Gossip
- At night you may pick a player. You will learn who that player targeted during the last night

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per night.

Win Condition (Town):
You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.

Welcome to Scummers Mafia,
Mask
. You are
Pomegranate
, a girl on the internet. Such a thing exists?!

You are a
Role Blocker
. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

None


Active Abilities:

Slap to the Face
- At night you may pick a player. You will block any action said player is trying to perform that night

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per night.

Win Condition (Town):
You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.

Welcome to Scummers Mafia,
Diacra
. You are
Farside
. You've got a sweet kid on your arm and you're still a list mod! You've got no time for night actions.

You are a
Vanilla Townie
. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

none


Active Abilities:

none


Win Condition (Town):
You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.

Welcome to Scummers Mafia,
Manho
. You are
Kublai Khan
. You achieved the unthinkable once. You pretended to be a miller and made it to endgame as scum. Since that's completely game-breaking, I'm not making you scum in this game.

You are a
Vanilla Townie
. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

none


Active Abilities:

none


Win Condition (Town):
You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.


Welcome to Scummers Mafia,
Cow
. You are
SpyreX
. You always lynch scum, but sometimes they're not mafia. So just to not disadvantage the town too much, we're not handing you any weapons.

You are a
Vanilla Townie
. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

none


Active Abilities:

none


Win Condition (Town):
You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.

Welcome to Scummers Mafia,
Nhammen
. You are
Tubby
. You have a slight tendency to be quite direct in your criticism. Just in case you go too far, let's make you a townie, that way I can modkill you without remorse!

You are a
Vanilla Townie
. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

It's a joke
- You are not more vulnerable than anyone else to modkills. Your flavor is just a joke.

Active Abilities:

none


Win Condition (Town):
You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.
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Night 0

Ortolan shoots ZazieR (redirected to Netopalis)
Benmage shoots Hoopla
Kunk redirects Ortolan to Netopalis
CuttleFish redirects Pomegranate to Pomegranate (no effect)
Monkeyman namecops Starbuck (receives Kmd)
Reck makes himself investigation-immune
ZazieR investigates Ortolan (receives SCUM!)
Starbuck gambles with Papa Zito
Netopalis protects SpyreX
Ani tracks ZazieR
Mask roleblocks nobody


Night 1

Ortolan shoots Cow (redirected to PopularTajo AND roleblocked)
Benmage shoots Cow
Kunk redirects nhammen to PopularTajo (no effect)
CuttleFish redirects Ortolan to Diacria
Monkeyman investigates Manho
Reck makes himself kill-immune
Tajo taxis Cow
Ani tracks SpyreX (no result)
Mask roleblocks Ortolan


Night 2

Benmage shoots Diacria
Kunk redirects Ani to Zito (no effect)
CuttleFish redirects Mask to Zito (no effect)
Monkeyman investigates PopularTajo (Benmage!!!)
Reck makes himself investigation-immune
Tajo taxis Nhammen (no effect)
Ani tracks Zito (nothing, power-loss)
Mask roleblocks Zito (nothing, power-loss)


Night 3

Zang kills Tajo
Kunk redirects Pom to Zito
CuttleFish redirects Nhammen to Zito
Reck makes himself investigation-immune


Night 4

Benmage kills Zito
CuttleFish redirects Zito to SpyreX
Reck makes himself kill-immune
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Post Post #906 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:26 am

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That last votecount you added kunk and cuttle to reck, where they should be on manho....

Otherwise, fun game! I replaced in cause well dram's a cool guy, plus fellahs like spy were in here...and I only had to read that I had a cameo :wink: .

Man I wanted to punch kunk in the baby maker when he voted reck.

I walked in to an easy game....well done other scum.

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Post Post #907 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:28 am

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3 things made me sad during this game.

1- Hoopla getting killed night 0 (I soooo would have loved to see that autoshot go on Zazie :P)
2- Half the town jumping on Zito and the other half getting redirected to him
3- Kunk suicide-bombing

Also, conditionnal taximan ended up sucking WAY more than it was supposed to with the whole town getting vanillized
And it's kinda sad for Monkey he got killed the day he found Benmage :P
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Post Post #908 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:30 am

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Ha, love the battlemage vs benmage flavor.
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Post Post #909 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:38 am

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Poor kunk and Monkey had such hard wincons. :(
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Post Post #910 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:03 am

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Yay.
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Post Post #911 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:06 am

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Nikanor wrote:Poor kunk and Monkey had such hard wincons. :(
Now you see why I made the switch to Reck there at the end. Dramonic gave me a warning that my vote of manho was playing against my win condition so I had to go back and switch it. I realized there that the town was going to lynch manho and there wasn't much I could do about it (I wasn't aggressive enough to push a Reck lynch, combined with the fact that I probably would have been lynched in one of the subsequent days.) So I preferred instead to see a scum win after the amazing first two days we had. I know you wanted to see me push that win condition Dramonic, but after seeing the strong position scum was at there in the end I wanted scum to win, regardless if I did or not. My plan to win was get Reck lynched, nightkill a townie, get benmage lynched, nightkill a townie, lynch manho, redirect the nightkill to Cuttlefish, then get a mislynch in the final LyLo.

While I didn't win, I am proud of my extraordinarily lucky N0 redirect of ortolan to Netapolis. It made my day seeing the havoc it wreaked :). It basically singlehandedly established the first two mislynches of this game. Papa Zito's early claiming of Reflexive Vanilla-izer made it easy for us scum to use our two redirects to ensure the town lost all of their power roles. Funnily enough, the night The Mask got his mind shattered by targeting Papa Zito himself was the day we attempted to redirect him to Papa Zito. I also realized that this was probably reason why Diacria didn't die earlier, with ortolan being roleblocked by The Mask.
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Post Post #912 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:36 am

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Would the mafia team of won if kunk and mokney fulfilled their seperate wincons?
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Post Post #913 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:44 am

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yes they would have.
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Post Post #914 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:41 am

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HAHAHAHA OMG

how did manho get lynched over me

so much win.

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Post Post #915 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:36 am

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You know, I'm not surprised...
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Post Post #916 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:39 am

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Post Post #917 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:56 pm

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In my opinion The Battle Mage win condition was easier then the Haylen win condition.

The battle mage role need to hammer a lynch on benmage and later mafia wins.
Or kill benmage role at night and later mafia wins
Or get to end game with benmage alive as he would auto kill benmage role in endgame
or kill\hammer whoever kills\hammers Benmage then mafi wins

That sort of win condition is fairly easily doable especially since he could role cop and probably could even ask his mafia buddies to help him find benmage by asking the XYL role to role name cop at night too. Me and dram thought that not all mafia not having the same win condition would likly help the town. Dram's original intention for the haylen role was for it to be an SK that knew who the mafia was and could talk to them. And Mafia could not win if sk won. And mafia had no way of knowing haylen was sk. Them not knowing that made me think they would get pissed so i suggested a role and a win condition adaptation to haylen and mafia that would allow mafia to win if kunk also won. Yes kunk's role was adapted to a role i designed awhile back called the absolute Usurper to avoid some shenanigans but I think we did not adapt it well enough so here are some thoughts me and dram recently discussed based on how some win conditions were worded and original intentions.
PokerFace wrote:
dramonic wrote:
PokerFace wrote:
dramonic wrote:MEEP!

Kunk (absolute usurper) just put manho (townie) at l-1 in LyLo

He knows he loses on endgame if the mafia wins, he asked me. Should I modkill him :S
I don't see how this is a modkillable offense. Let the game play out to the end and if mafia hamers and wins then so be it. If he understood the role and didn't break a game rule like outside quoting then he shouldn't be modkilled
I really wasnt sure, but he's switched his vote (in a freakin scummy way I might add) so its all good...
Yay I think we may have made that role to hard to win with. I haven't been reading the game but did he do the smart thing and try to redirect a kill from one of his scum buddies to another to help get rid of his buddies and sow desention in the ranks faster yet? And that would also sew desention in the ranks
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dramonic wrote:No, actually it's 9 player LyLo with a bunch'o'buddies alive.

He NEEDS to kill his buddy every night from here on or he's screwed :S

Unless he somehow manages to get a redirect to slip by, but the scum knows every town is vanilla...
Ouch. he let himself get in trouble.

BTW can i see the mafia win condition and his own again here?

I want to double check we are doing this right
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dramonic wrote:everybody has

"You win when all other factions have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same."

So really, the mafia's wincon is incorrect...
Since they win even if he's still there.
huh I thought we worded it differently than that?

WAIT! There are multiple ways you can interpret that

Yes Absolute Usurper technically isn't a different faction just like how battle mage wasn't one BUT Town is another faction and they are not all dead or left the game yet. And there is something that can prevent it. The Absolute Usurper and his Redirecting.

There is is room for argument that it should end if mafia > town and there is argument that kunk must be be eliminated before mafia can win

Ultimatly its mod's decision in this kind of senario. Luckily You already told Kunk what he had to do and that mafia outnumbering town would cause him to loose and he understands and if he cant get rid of his buddies then he will loose.

In the future should this role and win condition be used again I think it should be clarified better to avoid something like this and or give this role more of a chance. I thought of the role idea a long time ago and adapted it to your role here because it looked like what your were aiming for that role to do. Maybe we should have worked it differently though

So in hindsight so that kunk does not feel so bad. Should mafia > town and kunk be screwed, then Indeed the game still ends in mafia win as you meant for it and told him of it, but I think I'd be tempted to give kunk some kind of constilition prize. Like say he gets second or can count this as mafia victory in his record and a usurper loss. So its like he gets one win and one loss and not just a loss. So he at least gains something
dramonic wrote:well, he knows pretty clearly what he has to do ^_^;
since day 1
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You only need to handle this sort of thing when the game ends

If total mafia out numbers town then end the game. Mafia win

All mafia get 1 win

Kunk also gets a usurper loss

town gets 1 loss

If kunk still manages to win this game then he gets 2 wins and rest of mafia only gets one I guess.

if town wins then town gets 1 win and all of mafia gets 1 loss
Well I'm a nice guy so I'd probably do this for him since i kinda screwed up with thr role adaptation. Though you are the boss
In hind sight what may have balanced things easier for the town as 5 mafia with night 0 start would have been just making Battle mage a Lyncher that can role name cop at night. And instead of switching who he hunts when benmage leaves game just turning him into vanilla. This way haylen role would have one less mafia to bus, battlemage role would have easier win condition as he could win with town if he failed to get benmage, and town may of had easier time as well.

Sorry Kunk, I think we illy adapted you role's win condition in accordance with the mafia win condition. Feel free to hate on me for it and or give yourself a moral win in your record book simular to what i described here. Dram night not be ok with that but its what i be thinking
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Post Post #918 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:58 pm

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and or vidge me here in thread and or vidge me on night 0. sorry and hope you forgives
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Post Post #919 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:03 pm

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hey dramonic when i reviewed this setup, didn't we have a different name for the player who was the selective godfather? I didn't think it was percy? wasn't it someone else? Was our original player not apreciative of that role or something?
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Post Post #920 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:21 pm

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Our original player was BloodCovenant, however when the setup started he hadn't been on site for like, 3 months, so I felt the need to change it because nobody would get it (it was in his signature to know there's a godfather in the game for no apparent reason)
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Post Post #921 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:31 pm

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So next time will you people fucking listen to me when I say that Reck is playing his scum meta.


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Post Post #922 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:41 pm

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dramonic wrote:Our original player was BloodCovenant, however when the setup started he hadn't been on site for like, 3 months, so I felt the need to change it because nobody would get it (it was in his signature to know there's a godfather in the game for no apparent reason)
oh ok. Well that makes sence and probably was a good idea

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Post Post #923 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:43 pm

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I was rooting for you, Starbuck.
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Post Post #924 (ISO) » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:58 pm

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PZ, I only gave you my vote because I heart you.

I had I known you'd shatter my mindz, I wouldn't have done it.
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