Mini 990: YuGiOh! The Abridged Mafia - (OVER)

[Jarti]

What do

you

think of the Dram wagon, Jarti?

Nothing to lynch over, but it actually did get some banter flowing & I don't see why you would feel the need to step in and say you're against it at that point when there were all of 2 votes on him.

So now that BV wagon fell apart because it was meta, let's kill scum.

unvote: vote: Chronopie

Willing to throw out lists & then most of the explanations for reads are gut but no effort to vote the people he felt were slightly scummy. But then willing to jump on a flimsy meta-wagon. Screaming scum here.

ATTENTION DUELISTS

MY HAIR WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THE VOTECOUNT!

AlmasterGM
Beloved Princess (0) -
Brandi (0) -
bv310 (4) - Pomegranate FakeGod dramonic Chronopie
charter (0) -
Chronopie (1) - Jarti
dramonic (1) - AlmasterGM
FakeGod (0) -
Jarti (0) -
Kitoari (3) - Beloved Princess Charter bv310
MaxMouse (0) -
Pomegranate (0) -

12 alive, 7 to lynch

[FakeGod]

LEATHER PANTS!

I thought we couldn't talk about ongoing games.... (raises eyebrow)

[bv310]

None of those are ongoing, I don't think.

[bv310]

Oh shit, I linked the wrong one.

Mod, could you please remove that post, or just the first link? I thought that game was finished when I posted the link.

[AlmasterGM]

I support this <<

Unvote
Vote: bv

inb4Almasteryells

THE. IRONY. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

bv lurk is null and definitely wagon worthy. I'll personally testify to lurkage in Precision (no need to actually read the game and see me failing hardcore at being vig). Pom starting this wagon is bad, but these people getting on it are even more opportunistic.

[AlmasterGM]

also, above vote is dram. sorry.

[bv310]

No need to read Precision ever. Let's not talk about me losing the whole thing as a recruiting mason. Weirdest. Role. Ever.

[Kitoari]

I'm still catching up, sadly. For the moment I'm not sure if I'll hop on the BV wagon (although if it came down to deadline I would hammer), though the fact he isn't really responding except posting random threads (which I presume are old mafia games) makes me more open to his lynching. How many are on him now? 4?

[AlmasterGM]

Why does the number on him matter?

[Pomegranate]

What do

you

think of the Dram wagon, Jarti?

Nothing to lynch over, but it actually did get some banter flowing & I don't see why you would feel the need to step in and say you're against it at that point when there were all of 2 votes on him.[/quot]

Since when was it bad to give an opinion on something? It's

not

good to say what I think about a wagon? That's news to me.

So now that BV wagon fell apart because it was meta, let's kill scum.

Actually, I'm voting him because he lurked, posted a terrible catchup post mentioning only Kitoari, and talked about weird one-sided OMGUS. Someone asked about his meta and I gave what I know, but that's not why I voted him in the first place.

[Chronopie]

Willing to throw out lists & then most of the explanations for reads are gut but no effort to vote the people he felt were slightly scummy. But then willing to jump on a flimsy meta-wagon. Screaming scum here.

1) Gut reads, and past meta, are valuable tools in any scummers arsenal.

2) I know of past (completed) Bv310 games, which has him as lurker-scum.

3) Not screaming. I'M NOTICEABLY AGAINST THIS KIND OF POSTING. Irritating to read.

4) Semi-confirmable town role. Don't need to say any more.

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Since Bv310 provided some town-lurker meta, which I briefly skimmed, I am forced to conclude that lurking is a null-tell for him. Seeing as that was my basis for voting him. UNVOTE: Bv310

Nice to see you trying to call me out with weaksauce reasoning, calling my vote flimsy, then making a flimsy vote yourself. VOTE: Jarti <- Not an OMGUS.

[Riceballtail]

Edited the game links out of BVs posts. Due to this being a slight error, I will enact no punishment... this time. Please be more careful in the future.

[bv310]

Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou. I totally thought I had a different game there, not the one that was there.

[FakeGod]

It's official. Chrono hates Pokemons.

[MaxMouse]

Why does the number on him matter?

Because at L-1 people can quickhammer.

Willing to throw out lists & then most of the explanations for reads are gut but no effort to vote the people he felt were slightly scummy. But then willing to jump on a flimsy meta-wagon. Screaming scum here.

Here's the first post I

slightly

agree with you.
This is the problem with this wagon: He wasn't active lurking he was simply not here. If he were active lurking to stay under the radar, that would be one thing but he's not. Using lurking meta is silly because lurking could simply be caused by a number of factors. I worked all day the last two days and I was with my dad at baseball games both nights because he lives four states away and was visiting. I try to post more often but when I get home at midnight and haven't seen a place to rest since 7 AM I tend to fall asleep. My point is: this is a nulltell and meta of this type is stupid.

Chrono's response to what he considers a flimsy vote is to do something that looks an awful lot like an OMGUS and say its not an OMGUS and is pretty flimsy on its own. He gave more of a reasoning to be voting for bv and a generally overview of... general things really, then actually giving a reason to vote for Jarti. One game is not a pattern, its one game of someone who happened to lurk and be scum.

That being said:

Vote: Chronopie

[Pomegranate]

Weekly V/LA

.

[Chronopie]

It's not that I hate pokemon... I just dislike the playstyle of those with pokemon avatars, in this game.

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The fact that Jarti voted me for using 'flimsy reasoning' as a justification for a vote is, in itself, flimsy. Given I (and others) had prior meta of Bv310 as lurker-scum, my Bv vote was, infact, justified, therefore Jarti's vote is weaksauce, thus justifies a counter-vote.

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Anyone quick-hammering at L-1 would be looked at with suspicion anyway, especially if they hammer before a claim.

[Riceballtail]

ATTENTION DUELISTS

MY HAIR WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT BELOVED PRINCESS HAS MAGICALLY TRANSFORMED INTO TIMEATER.

IT BOGGLES EVEN THE MIGHTIEST OF STEVES!

[FakeGod]

wait what?

[dramonic]

replacement

[MaxMouse]

wait what?

It took me a second as well, don't worry.

[Pomegranate]

The fact that Jarti voted me for using 'flimsy reasoning' as a justification for a vote is, in itself, flimsy. Given I (and others) had prior meta of Bv310 as lurker-scum, my Bv vote was, infact, justified, therefore Jarti's vote is weaksauce, thus justifies a counter-vote.

To clarify: Was your vote based on meta?

(Steve? Steve!)

[Chronopie]

@Pom:

Since Bv310 provided some town-lurker meta, which I briefly skimmed, I am forced to conclude that lurking is a null-tell for him. Seeing as that was my basis for voting him. UNVOTE: Bv310

[charter]

Back in town, will catch up and expose the scumbags tonight.

[Jarti]

Actually, I'm voting him because he lurked, posted a terrible catchup post mentioning only Kitoari, and talked about weird one-sided OMGUS. Someone asked about his meta and I gave what I know, but that's not why I voted him in the first place.

The rest of the wagon didn't though.

Alright, so BV lurks when he's scum.
Let's lynch him then, especially since he's not being active anyways. (at this rate, I can't get a read on him at all)

Unvote
Vote: bv310

Anyone support/oppose this?

I support this <<

Unvote
Vote: bv

inb4Almasteryells

So no-one has Bv-town/lurker meta?

VOTE: BV310

All in succession. So yeah, your vote may have been founded, but what got people to hop onto the wagon was meta garbage. At least the way I see it.

Willing to throw out lists & then most of the explanations for reads are gut but no effort to vote the people he felt were slightly scummy. But then willing to jump on a flimsy meta-wagon. Screaming scum here.

1) Gut reads, and past meta, are valuable tools in any scummers arsenal.

2) I know of past (completed) Bv310 games, which has him as lurker-scum.

3) Not screaming. I'M NOTICEABLY AGAINST THIS KIND OF POSTING. Irritating to read.

4) Semi-confirmable town role. Don't need to say any more.

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Since Bv310 provided some town-lurker meta, which I briefly skimmed, I am forced to conclude that lurking is a null-tell for him. Seeing as that was my basis for voting him. UNVOTE: Bv310

Nice to see you trying to call me out with weaksauce reasoning, calling my vote flimsy, then making a flimsy vote yourself. VOTE: Jarti <- Not an OMGUS.

You hop on and off the BV wagon very easily with a "meta says this; vote him"; "meta says that; unvote him" series of events. I'm fairly sure that makes your vote on him flimsy as there isn't much substance to your backing and it shows.

You also neglect to respond to why you didn't feel the need to vote the people you were getting 'slightly scummy' reads on, but were able to easily hop on a meta-case wagon. Gut reads and meta are an important part of your arsenal you say in your #1, but I sense a disconnect between when you are and are not voting.

Let's kill chronopie.