NY 114: Mafia vs. Werewolves (Game Over)

[Leafsnail]

But how could ANYONE know someone is gonna flip town? Again, this only works if someone somehow knows who's in the mafia team AND who's in the werewolf team. Personally, I think Midnight's Sorrow genuinely thought Shrinehme was a member of the enemy scumteam, which is why he agreed to die if he flipped town (a promise which, by the way, he's now broken. I can't see any reason why he's still alive). Foilist too... he's even started deflecting to The Guy Who He Thinks Is Scum But Who He Doesn't Want To Vote For Some Reason. There is still NO explanation for why Foilist refused to vote Midnight's Sorrow (who was on his scumlist) due to "lack of reasons" and then votes Shrinehme with literally no new points.

[Parama]

Unishgt basically linked why he needs to be lynched. Hell, my post is all there needs to be said.

And I was never buddying you.

[Nachomamma8]

V/LA until Monday Night

[Lowell]

Let's not let BM derail the socrates wagon, please.

[foilist13]

@Leafsnail: I never voted MS because he never made the top of my scum list. Sorry to burst your bubble there buddy.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

@Leaf:

What promise has been broken??

If you think 'willing' equates to self voting and/or self hammering, you have the wrong guy. I rarely, if any, self vote, and I sure as hell do not self hammer. It's stupid.

I still don't know why your trying to push that though

[Dr. Robotnik]

But how could ANYONE know someone is gonna flip town? Again, this only works if someone somehow knows who's in the mafia team AND who's in the werewolf team. Personally, I think Midnight's Sorrow genuinely thought Shrinehme was a member of the enemy scumteam, which is why he agreed to die if he flipped town (a promise which, by the way, he's now broken. I can't see any reason why he's still alive). Foilist too... he's even started deflecting to The Guy Who He Thinks Is Scum But Who He Doesn't Want To Vote For Some Reason. There is still NO explanation for why Foilist refused to vote Midnight's Sorrow (who was on his scumlist) due to "lack of reasons" and then votes Shrinehme with literally no new points.

I <3 this post. Several people this day have been saying people are very suspicious, yet won't vote for them. This is true for SSBF, Folist, and a couple others if I go back and look.

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

Two more, please. Then I promise I'll scumhunt tomorrow.

I know that you think you've caught obvious scum, but that does not excuse you from contributing in this game. I don't like how you're trying to make excuses for not really contributing Day 3. If Socrates gets lynched and flips town, I'll be looking harshly at you Day 4.

[MichelSableheart]

Eighth vote count of day 3.

Battle Mage (0):
CryMeARiver (0):
Dr. Robotnik (0):
Dry-fit (0):
Faraday (0):
foilist13 (1):

Nikanor

Leafsnail (0):
Lowell (0):
Midnight's Sorrow (2):

Super Smash Bros. Fan, Leafsnail

Nachomamma8 (0):
Nikanor (0):
Parama (1):

Battle Mage

Pomegranate (1):

Dry-fit

SerialClergyman (0):
Socrates (8):

Lowel, Nachomamma8, Dr. Robotnik, Unsight, foilist13, Pomegranate, vezokpiraka, Midnight's Sorrow

Super Smash Bros. Fan (0):
Unsight (2):

Parama, Socrates

vezokpiraka (0):

Not Voting (3):

Faraday, CryMeARiver, SerialClergyman

With 18 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch someone.

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SerialClergyman has announced LA from the 12th till the 26th of june.

vezokpiraka has announced Limited Access from the 26th of june till the 3rd of july.

Pomegranate has announced V/LA during the weekend.

Nachomamma has announced V/LA till monday night.

Still looking for a replacement for CryMeARiver.

[Faraday]

But how could ANYONE know someone is gonna flip town? Again, this only works if someone somehow knows who's in the mafia team AND who's in the werewolf team. Personally, I think Midnight's Sorrow genuinely thought Shrinehme was a member of the enemy scumteam, which is why he agreed to die if he flipped town (a promise which, by the way, he's now broken. I can't see any reason why he's still alive). Foilist too... he's even started deflecting to The Guy Who He Thinks Is Scum But Who He Doesn't Want To Vote For Some Reason. There is still NO explanation for why Foilist refused to vote Midnight's Sorrow (who was on his scumlist) due to "lack of reasons" and then votes Shrinehme with literally no new points.

well OK, not know they'll flip town but think about it.

you know your teams kill didn't go through and the socrates is being pushed because of the roleblock. you obviously know he's not scum because of that so there's a fair chance he's gonna be town.

[Parama]

This game is stalling and needs a lynch, but I still think we're heading in the wrong direction with this one. I'll gladly take the fall if I'm wrong, because I don't think Socrates is scum. Unsight, foilist, and Pome are all most definitely scum. I'll work on finding the rest of BM's team once we have some flips.

[Nikanor]

I still don't get why I'm the only vote on foilist.

Even then, taking the lowest possible scenario, he still has a higher probability of being scum than anyone else. So why is that not strong evidence for you?

60% is not strong evidence. 95% and greater is strong evidence. 60% is statistically inconclusive.
Plus, I have a gut feeling that Socrates will flip town.

[Socrates]

Ok, screw it, I am the lynch. I should be fighting it harder because the town is sooo close to losing, but there is no way this situation will not be resolved without my death, and the vig was apparently 1-shot. I am very pissed at nacho that he didn't shoot me last night and yet is willing to tunnel on me so badly today.

Here are the scumbags so that the town can maybe, maybe pull something out tomorrow:

dry-fit
Pomegranate
unsight
foilist
2 of {serialclergyman, crymeariver, leafsnail, midnightsorrow}

Seriously, why hasn't Dry-fit been killed three times over? CryMeAriver replaces into the game, votes the confirmed townie, and then flakes? That is almost certainly a scum slot. (It also fits CMAR's scum meta, for those that care). The power trio of Pomeganate, unsight, and foilist all suddenly found the evidence against me damning even though that evidence was there yesterday and was discussed at great length. There is no way all three of them are honest about that kind of dissonance.

I will be seriously pissed if SerialClergyman is mafia and the town gave him a pass to a free win because he was V/LA. But beyond that, his play is picture perfect what I would expect out of a mafia member that is competent enough not to drop obvious scum tells.

MS and Leaf is where I would go if any of these flipped town, I doubt they would though.

[Parama]

To be honest I don't have a particularly scummy read on SC, but I will say that he should have replaced out of this game instead of taking a 2-3 week V/LA.

Dry-fit is in this game? 0_o
His most recent 3 posts seem like trying to avoid prods.
Leafsnail is probtown. CMAR is prob retarded but I dunno if he's scum because of it. MS could be scum, but it's less likely than the power-trio. And yup the Pome-Unsight-foilist team is almost certainly correct (MY theory <.<)

[Pomegranate]

The power trio of Pomeganate, unsight, and foilist all suddenly found the evidence against me damning even though that evidence was there yesterday and was discussed at great length. There is no way all three of them are honest about that kind of dissonance.

So you also believe the Pom-Unsight-Foilist scumteam thing?

Why? What makes sense about it to you? Because it doesn't make sense to me; I don't understand where it comes from.

I do agree that Dry-Fit is acting useless and scummy though.

[Pomegranate]

To be honest I don't have a particularly scummy read on SC, but I will say that he should have replaced out of this game instead of taking a 2-3 week V/LA.

In a game where the first day could last up to 2 months... he should have, but it's not as bad as it could be.

[Lowell]

So, now that soc confessed, can we lynch him?

[Dry-fit]

I do agree that Dry-Fit is acting useless and scummy though.

Here's a little experiment: Raise your hand if you think Pom is town.

[Pomegranate]

Let's look

at Dry-Fits posts today:

Vote: Pomegranate.

Seriously.

I don't think the night actions prove anything conclusive about Socrates, but his responses have not been town.

I don't see the case on Unsight at all.

<Insert pleasant surprise at Sevis/Shrine flip

Pleasant?

Am I crazy to think Pom is scum?

I don't know if BM is trying to confuse the town with that post or what.

I do agree that Dry-Fit is acting useless and scummy though.

Here's a little experiment: Raise your hand if you think Pom is town.

Now Dry-Fit, who has done more today, me or you? Also, what do you think of Socrates and the Socwagon? (Don't be wishy-washy about this and take a stance for once.)

Dry-Fit, how many scumbags do you think there are? How many people are you suspicious of? I'll do the math for you: 6-1=5. Something is wrong with that last number, DF. Fix it.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Hmm....>_0

Unvote

I think this thread needs a little Midnight magic D:

Will have a post with my scum list and why I think them scummy hopefully by the end of the day

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

@Socrates: Why not at least claim?

Here's a little experiment: Raise your hand if you think Pom is town.

The only way you can even hope to gain any accurate result out of that experiment is if Pomegranate were to flip scum. If she were to flip town, then you would have wasted your time on your little "experiment".

[Socrates]

It should be obvious that I am just a townie.

[foilist13]

@Nikanor: To me, in this game, 60% is lynch worthy evidence. However, even if you do not accept that you have at least admitted that he has an elevated probability. Couple that with the fact that his is a scummy player slot. Even now he is not exibiting town behavior. He has resigned himself to his lynch and is doing no scum hunting. That is exactly what a scum player should be doing. The less he talks the information there is for the the town and the more likely it is for him to lose attention. If he were town he would be doing everything in his power to find scum or stop his wagon.

Furthermore, even if you don't think my reason for voting him is good enough, your vote on me is retarded. There is nothing you've accused me of that I haven't explained yet your vote is still there. Why? The miniscule justification for it dried up a long time ago.

[Leafsnail]

Vote: foilist

.

I am declaring a new bandwagon as of right now. Anyone who's town and wants to lynch scum should vote him too. If you're his buddy (I'm looking at you, MS) you should vote him now for towncred.

That is all.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Ah, but you know your my scumbuddy Leafsnail

To the edge and beyond~

Scumlist a WiP