Open 226: Big Love - Game over! Town wins!

[don_johnson]

This makes no sense. If you're going to have other people vote for him, you have to provide evidence to support your conclusion that chi needs to be hanged. Otherwise we're just voting blindly. You might as well ask for people to look for reasons to hang people, which (I hope) they are doing anyway.

you write this as though my request somehow forces others to vote. just because i ask you to vote someone doesn't mean you have to. and no. i don't have to give reasons if i don't want to. writing up "cases" is a courtesy and privilege. not a right. this is not a court of law. it is a game of mafia. you have your own reasons for voting chi, so why try and make an issue of my earlier request, especially when i explained my reasoning already?

FoS: zerofang

[ZeroFang]

Lol? I was saying that requesting votes then refusing to provide a reason was pointless, that's all. People will vote who they want to vote, regardless of what you request. Asking people to hop on wagons just seems a bit too enthusiastic.

[yabbaguy]

@Robo-127:

I see what you are asking, selfvoting is scummy. Self votes are only useful to scum, even they use it as a last resort. But yes, scummy, they are.

I just find it more a comedic effect/attention grabbing thing. That or idiocy. It's null, I'd say.

@Millar-141: A grammatically correct sentence. You're acceptably intelligent. Your fake meta's more dead than it was before.

Now point out scum intelligently please.

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I like this chihuahua wagon a lot, so I'll

Unvote, Vote: chihuahua

, which is still not lynch range. I think asking the audience before pursuing a suspicion is bad, and the lover rolefish is quite bad and not beneficial. I think the "big mouth" remark is cute, but AtE as well.

FOS: Shattered Viewpoint

. Just ISO him. Like, stop reading the thread and ISO him now.

[don_johnson]

zero: what do you think of yabba's recent request?

[ZeroFang]

He requested something?

[Fidelis]

FOS: Shattered Viewpoint

. Just ISO him. Like, stop reading the thread and ISO him now.

All it looked like to me was a bunch of useless posts, agreeing with people, and flipping out. I take it you saw something else?

[yabbaguy]

Nope. That's exactly it.

[ZeroFang]

By that logic Xite would be a better choice.

[chihuahua0]

Vote chihuahua

This post pretty much explains my feelings, but I'd like to add his OMGUS-ish FoS on Don.

more chi hua hua votez please.

For what reason please?

sorry, but you'll have to come up with your own.

This makes no sense. If you're going to have other people vote for him, you have to provide evidence to support your conclusion that chi needs to be hanged. Otherwise we're just voting blindly. You might as well ask for people to look for reasons to hang people, which (I hope) they are doing anyway.

I, err, agree about asking people to vote without giving a reason. Even though you just voted for me.

[Robocopter87]

I think I will ISO Shattered. Just to see what Yabba means.

[Robocopter87]

Holy crap. That took five seconds. I don't know what Yabba was aiming for but that was extremly stupid and scummy. He hasn't done anything besides fluff and joke around. He's V/LA right now so keeping vote on Chiauahua.

How many votes does he have?

Mod, Can we pweeeeeeese have a vote count? Pweeese?

[Robocopter87]

[millar13]

I LUVE TO LURK WITH MY LOVER!

[don_johnson]

okay. 6 lovers. 1 scum.

millar's chances of being scum are 1/6. do lovers commit suicide if their partner is lynched? cause that would mean lynching millar gives us a 33% chance of lynching scum. and considering that its millar, it doesn't sound like a bad idea. that's one to think on.

zero: yabba asked people to iso someone and didn't give a reason. how is that different from me asking people to vote someone without giving a reason? also, how do you address the issue of players having their own brains. again, how is asking people to vote for someone without giving a reason anti-town/scummy? or are you saying something different?

[Robocopter87]

Do lovers commit suicide if partners are lynched? Are you serious?

[Xite91]

MOD: Xite has only played with me in current games; so technically isn't the breaking the rules if she is bringing them up

Sorry, I have to defend my good name.

@Mod

I never brought up any games, I just said that millar is always scum. I never backed it up with anything because it was sarcasm.

good try with the mod-kill though, or at least I think that was your intention

More from me in a minute, I have to actually read the game

[Xite91]

EBWOP, the good try thing was meant for millar

Okay, it seems like 1 of these three have to be scum, but for some reason I can't see two of them as scum with any combination of them, don't ask why, just a feeling.

Don, Chi and Yabba

Next,

millar's chances of being scum are 1/6. do lovers commit suicide if their partner is lynched? cause that would mean lynching millar gives us a 33% chance of lynching scum. and considering that its millar, it doesn't sound like a bad idea. that's one to think on.

I actually really like this line of reasoning, but I just caaaaaan't lynch my luver. Cuz with him saying it so much, it must be true right?
By the way Millar, I just ISO'd you and youre definitely active lurking. That calls for suspicion.

Next, I would like to point out zero

@Zero

By that logic Xite would be a better choice.

How would I be a better choice? ISO me and you'll see that I am adding things, I'm just not pushing because I'm still reading people.
I'd say that yes, shattered could be it, but millar is doing just the same. He's got like 5 posts, and in half of them or so he's trying to call me his lover.

[Fidelis]

zero: yabba asked people to iso someone and didn't give a reason. how is that different from me asking people to vote someone without giving a reason? also, how do you address the issue of players having their own brains. again, how is asking people to vote for someone without giving a reason anti-town/scummy? or are you saying something different?

I know this was directed a Zero, but whatever.
ISOing someone doesn't nearly have the same effect as voting them. An ISO may lead to a vote, or provide a reason for a vote, so asking to ISO with no reason is the same thing as asking them to see if there is a reason. Asking someone to vote without a reason is completely different. And at the time, you weren't giving a reason why even you voted.

[ZeroFang]

zero: yabba asked people to iso someone and didn't give a reason. how is that different from me asking people to vote someone without giving a reason? also, how do you address the issue of players having their own brains. again, how is asking people to vote for someone without giving a reason anti-town/scummy? or are you saying something different?

Asking people to vote isn't scummy or town. It just annoys me for whatever reason

It's different because yabba was presenting evidence and asking us to look. You just asked for votes without explanation. See the difference now?

By that logic Xite would be a better choice.

How would I be a better choice? ISO me and you'll see that I am adding things, I'm just not pushing because I'm still reading people.
I'd say that yes, shattered could be it, but millar is doing just the same. He's got like 5 posts, and in half of them or so he's trying to call me his lover.

I did ISO you and at the time I saw less content over more posts. That's why I said it. That being said, you've stepped up your content and posting a bit so you're clear as far as I'm concerned.

Infact, ISOing some other people has been quite revealing: Sanxion, Shattered, RS, Muthaa, youngminii, millar, and Sandman have all done the same. Pittbunny and Guthrie have only posted their confirmation and nothing else. I think we can safely assume that lurking here is a null tell (it's still not helpful in the least).

[don_johnson]

I know this was directed a Zero, but whatever.
ISOing someone doesn't nearly have the same effect as voting them. An ISO may lead to a vote, or provide a reason for a vote, so asking to ISO with no reason is the same thing as asking them to see if there is a reason. Asking someone to vote without a reason is completely different. And at the time, you weren't giving a reason why even you voted.

uh huh. i am amazed at the power i have. if i ask you to jump off a bridge without a reason, would you do it? my point is that the entire conversation is retarded. me asking for votes is just that. anyone using it as a jump off point for suspicion is reeeeeeeeeeeeaaching.

[don_johnson]

Asking people to vote isn't scummy or town. It just annoys me for whatever reason

fair enough.

It's different because yabba was presenting evidence and asking us to look. You just asked for votes without explanation. See the difference now?

he didn't give a reason.

[Robocopter87]

Way to totally ignore me Don.

[don_johnson]

Way to totally ignore me Don.

?? what mean you? are you referring to your sarcastic and rhetorical question?

[chihuahua0]

Do lovers commit suicide if partners are lynched? Are you serious?

Well, the rules say that a lover commits suicide when his/her partner dies, and when someone gets lynched, he's dead.

Now you are calling me Zero? Might as well put that on my list of acceptable nicknames.

okay. 6 lovers. 1 scum.

millar's chances of being scum are 1/6. do lovers commit suicide if their partner is lynched? cause that would mean lynching millar gives us a 33% chance of lynching scum. and considering that its millar, it doesn't sound like a bad idea. that's one to think on.

zero: yabba asked people to iso someone and didn't give a reason. how is that different from me asking people to vote someone without giving a reason? also, how do you address the issue of players having their own brains. again, how is asking people to vote for someone without giving a reason anti-town/scummy? or are you saying something different?

Yabba started the wagon I voted on? Oops. Yet again I destroy my own logic.

Sometimes it's hard for players to use their own brains, esspeically under the pressure I'm in.

I LUVE TO LURK WITH MY LOVER!

Millar, you're basically asking the Mafia/town to lynch/kill you. I don't know if this post is worth a post or not.

Or, as Don Johnson said, you might be scum. Or maybe even the Trechorous Lover.

[DizzyIzzyB13]

Vote Count #4

• chihuahua0 (don_johnson, smashbro_of_the_SSS, Robocopter87, ZeroFang, yabbaguy) 5 (L-5)
  Muthaa (Sanxion, Xite91, chihuahua0) 3 (L-7)
  Reverse Simplicity (Mr.Sandman) 1 (L-9)
  Robocopter87 (Muthaa) 1 (L-9)
  Wacka Alpaca (Shattered Viewpoint) 1 (L-9)
  Xite91 (youngminii) 1 (L-9)
  yabbaguy (Wacka Alpaca, millar13) 2 (L-8)

Not voting: Fidelis, Guthrie, PaltryExcuse, Pittbunny, Reverse Simplicity

With 19 alive, 10 votes are required for a lynch.

V/LA: PaltryExcuse, Shattered Viewpoint (Monday, July 5th), Wacka Alpaca (Tuesday, July 6th)

Deadline is Wednesday, July 21st at 8pm UK time.