Cross Edge Bastard Mod! (Game Over!)

[Benmage]

VOTE: SpyreX
Cause his name reminds me of Spyro. Ugh.

Vote gandalf5166

I got your back SpyreX

Mad people posting without confirming!

[Benmage]

Currently? I'd say it's Zeine or Brosste
Wilkiet, Pragma and Ida aren't sympathetic enough for a killfest

Wait what....I'm sorry I don't speak spanish.

[Benmage]

lets give it a whirl

unvote vote dramonic

[Benmage]

Dayvig doesn't mean day end.

[Benmage]

Vote UK

[Benmage]

Wow, I goto bed and 5 pages appear. People need to slow their roll.

This is a bastard game. Crazy shit, like daykillin and stuff happens and people can't afford to be falling back or dissuaded to read through 5+ pages of fluff. I'm a superhero and will readup no problem, but not everyone is as gifted as I am(+1 for modesty). Also replacing into bastard games is horrid...so slow it up...I just replaced into Tar's last mind screw and had no clue wtf was going on.

If I see any more damn useless spammage in these few pages that I need to read, those people will hang.

[Benmage]

*facepalm*

unvote vote Fate

Definitely, without a doubt, 100% scum here.

[Benmage]

Lets see...I day investigated Fate and it came up scum....choo choo while I read now 10 pages.

[Benmage]

Hmm.
Benmage, you bring this up fairly late.
Why?

Because I'm 10 pages behind now.

[Benmage]

Don't worry reck, i'll tell the executioner to warm your spot up. You're next.

[Benmage]

Benmage. Why did you wait so long to give us this result?

I didn't open the game doing...I didn't wait long.

[Benmage]

Baffled why there aren't more fate votes...Your guys heads that far stuck up one anothers asses?

[Benmage]

INSANE COP.

THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE AND ITS GETTING FUCKING OLD.

CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY BENMAGE, THAT

YOUR

HEAD IS TOO FAR UP YOUR OWN ASS TO SEE THINGS THAT MIGHT BE IN A FUCKING BASTARD MOD GAME.

Lets fix this. I was guaranteed Sanity.

I'm confused at you SP, but then again I am 10 pages behind.

[Benmage]

SERIOUSLY
WHAT KIND OF COP
REGARDLESS OF BASTARD GAME OR NOT
CLAIMS THE FIRST RESULT

What cop doesn't auto claim when they get a scum?

[Benmage]

BTW we're either lynching me or Vezo today, that's my ability.

So pile your bullshit votes on now either way.

Lol what a fucking useless ability...Looks like you still dangle.

[Benmage]

There was no fucking case on me, if he READ THE FUCKING THREAD and didn't twist my posts to all hell he'd see I'M TOWN AND BASTARDLY SHIT IS GOING ON.

Read posts... you fucking dumbass shifters/caps lockers are spamming and ruining this game. No ones gonna be able to read shit because of you fucking retards. I wish I could shoot all of you.

[Benmage]

Why'd you investigate me assclown?

Read obvscum.

[Benmage]

*headdesk*
When did this become a newbie game?

[Benmage]

So once again, since your ego is apparently too much for you to keep in check, WHY'D YOU DO IT?

Does it look like I give a rats ass about anyone else's view on you? I called you obvscum. You've nearly ruined what had/has the potential to be a fantastic game.

I claimed day-cop with guaranteed sanity, and named you scum. Now die.

[Benmage]

I would like to ask Benmage what his gender is. Not

his

gender, of course.

No, fuck off...I'm not going to say anything more about my role until Fate is dead.

[Benmage]

Jebus, how many excuses can you guys come up with...Yes I will gladly not be on the wagon to see him hang.

[Benmage]

YOU BETTER FULL CLAIM NOW BEN, CAUSE I'M FLIPPING FUCKING TOWN.

Your scum. And I'm not claiming more.

[Benmage]

Benmage, no seriously, what if I flip TOWN?

The fuck are you going to do? You basically claimed a sane investigation on someone who flipped town.

WHAT WILL YOU DO? IF YOU GET YOURSELF LYNCHED AND WASTE TWO DAYS THAT ARE CHOCK FULL OF INFORMATION I'LL HATE YOU FOREVER.

I don't know...Its like asking what will I do if I suddenly evolve in to god. Its not gonna happen. And when you hang, because Fate...you will hang...I will smile.

[Benmage]

Benmage is practically painting himself a lyncher now.

Benmage, if you fail to cooperate in this situation, you practically claim lyncher. That changes the best scenario.

This lyncher thing is a poor ploy. I've already said I'm willing to be off the wagon.

In fact

Unvote

...Now will you guys stop playing like newbs and follow protocol. Its friday I'm gonna go grill...I'm done flooding this game more.

[Benmage]

NICE EXCUSE TO STALL FOR A CLAIM. I'LL BE INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT YOU COME UP WITH.

I already claimed enough. I went off the wagon to cater to SP...can you show me one instance where a lyncher didn't have to be on the wagon.

What play is illogical? Not fullclaiming? Not following a claimed cop is 101.

[Benmage]

-XylBot- Lyncher (lyncher; uncommon; 8+ players): You win if BUDDY1 is lynched.

What game is this?

[Benmage]

NOT FOLLOWING A COP?

A COP WHO GOT A GUILTY D1?
A COP WHO WON'T FULLCLAIM?
A SUPPOSEDLY GUARANTEED SANE COP IN A BASTARD GAME?
A COP WHO CHOOSE HIS TARGET BASED OFF "WHO WAS RUINING THE GAME?"

YOU AIN'T NO COP BOI

Yeah that looks about right. Now which game was this lyncher in?

[Benmage]

So you admit you choose me because my use of caps was making the game "unpleasant."

HA

Yes it is "unpleasant" but it was your useless spammage of fluff posts...not your caps. Game with lyncher??????

[Benmage]

See this post....<<<<<^^^>>><<<VVVvvvvvv>>><<this post is a fluff post....because now I have to ask again. Why can't you name the game with this lyncher in it so I can fucking look it up.

[Benmage]

Benmage, why can't you prove that there is some standard that lynchers must be on the wagon?

Do you know any games with lynchers in em? I don't feel like wading through a buncha random games looking to see how a lyncher is used. Especially since I'm not a lyncher and cater to SP's demands who brought this whole thing up.

[Benmage]

Cause I don't fucking need to. Why don't YOU show the class a game with a lyncher that HAS TO BE VOTING the target?

You're just being obvious now.

"WUT I CANT BE LYNCHER, IM NOT VOTING HIM SEE? SEE??!?"

Link any game with a lyncher.

I dont need to cater any more to you idiots..in fact I'm just done here. I claimed..I'm over it. If the player base is really this fucking bad to not follow a cop then this game isn't as "good" as I thought it was going to be. But I'm done bickering with you 2 butt buddies, its just causing what I wanted to avoid....useless fluff.. Hopefully the other sane players will join in, and hang you.

[Benmage]

If the player base is really this fucking bad to not follow a cop

QUOTE OF THE DAY.

Go iso yourself. It speaks volumes. Sad you lost Nik...bs you screamers screamed he was scum. Then went to lynch gandalf, whose now confirmed town. Now you won't follow a cop and are using anything to avoid lynching the scum. I followed your request to be off the wagon...and nothing. Your play this game is horrendous.

This isn't the fucking supreme court. You aren't innocent until proven guilty. I don't need to make a case, when I claim a PR. Now that its apparently Vezo or Fate how can anyone be sitting here, not voting Fate, and then still think of themselves as a good player. Get over whatever emotional state you guys are in. Breathe. Suckitup for lynching a friend/fellow screamer, and lynch the scum.

[Benmage]

HOLY SHIT YES
BENMAGE IS DEF A LYNCHER

Unvote; Vote: Vezo

K THX

Saw a lyncher pull the same cop guilty gambit in Halo Mafia. EPIC WIN

*Facepalm* its funny how hard the screamers will defend each other. Worst idea ever are these non-alignment known alliances.

[Benmage]

The chickens done.

[Benmage]

Wheres the Halo Mafia under reck, looked in completed large theme games.

[Benmage]

Well forgive me for lumpin you all together, because reck and SP aren't voting Fate(me thinks) Atleast I know reck just voted vezo .

Theres no reason for me to state more about my role. It can only benefit the scum from this point.

@Reck The game doesn't say anything about the specifics of AGM's role.

[Benmage]

I have neighbors, and would flavor claim, but no more for I don't want to reveal how my abilities work...but seeing as Fate made it him or vezo...there is no point for me to do.

@SC

...you really gonna tell

me

that its town who post continuously...

[Benmage]

Exe, nice vote switch.

How can anyone complain about lurkers when its 25 pages this quickly..the whole screamer quad is a buncha fucking dumbass, and or scum.

[Benmage]

seriously too much spamming

Your are one of the guiltiest parties.

[Benmage]

(This will clearly be entertainment at this point, what with the talented cast(sarcasm) here)

DTM holds the key, and yet is so far from the point.

Battle Mage never gave us role PM's or anything about what his lyncher role (cicero) was like. So does there even exist a game with a lyncher role pm out there?

[Benmage]

This game is just so.....win right now. Has anyone even bothered to think what Vezo's alignment is, or asked him to claim...or does Fates love nectar really taste that good?

[Benmage]

I definitely think that Ben is a lyncher. VOTE: vezok Fate, you're stupid. Why did you bring it down to you and vezok? By the way, if vezok flips scum(which I think is unlikely, but possible), then I will consider Fate confirmed town.

This is so stupid. You yield to voting someone you think will likely flip town. Also one cannot from your PoV rule out Fate bussing a partner.

[Benmage]

This game is just so.....win right now. Has anyone even bothered to think what Vezo's alignment is, or asked him to claim...or does Fates love nectar really taste that good?

How is it win for you? You're "scum" isn't being lynched? or was that sarcasm?

Clearly sarcasm, I knew I should've put the brackets...internet sarcasm is so hard to portray. They won't lynch a scum, but will gladly lynch a townie no questions asked...f'in hilarious. Scum must be lovin this game.

Biggest anti-town enemy here, is that its nearing 30 pgs...gg SPAM squad.

[Benmage]

Yeah, but I don't think that he would make it to where either he or vez had to be lynched if they were both scum. It would be guaranteeing that someone from his faction would die. And I only voted him because I think Fate is more so town. And I used to play magic a lot.... Not so much anymore....

Magic the card game?

[Benmage]

Kaiyruu,
Your ability finds town alignment if my memory serves me correctly, correct? So than...tomorrow, after we waste a vezo lynch, and you ring me up, hammer, and I come out as town...we'll than lynch Fate? If that is how this must play out, than by all means lets make this gogogogo.

[Benmage]

Several moons ago, back in highschool some of my buddies played that game...watching them play I was intrigued by the direct dmg dealing cards...and through burrowing of several friends cards created a "burn" deck...I literally with no experience played for a few months and lost maybe 1 out of every 25 games.

Anything of that sort still exist?

[Benmage]

@Benmage: I'm fine with that. Confirming an actual cop with a pseudo-cop ability sounds amusing.

Than let's get r done! I can't wait to waste a lynch whooo hoooo!!! *sarcasm* BC

unvote vote Vezo

[Benmage]

wait... no. you leave bad crumbs that fuck with me. nvm.

Atleast I'm not speaking in Shakespearean...there is one mild breadcrumb....i think so atleast and DTM is the key.

And yes it was a red deck...but this was so long ago I can't imagine that tactic still being available.

[Benmage]

Oh I'm also a more easily read key, DTM is the roundabout one.

[Benmage]

How many pages you think we could make this game?? 200? I think we could do it.

[Benmage]

Did it really just open some 4 hours ago and already grow 10 pages...did you children learn nothing from yesterday? WHich SPammer should we kill today? They're all clearly scum.

Oh and I was most certainly targeted to be killed yesterday, but one of my neighbors, Faraday protected me.

He also had a QT with 2 others in a separate QT I can name them if need be.

For my QT/neighbor there is another.

There's no reason for me to claim, lets vote me up and have Kairyuu clear me, wasn't that the plan?? WHy is Kise being lynched..and god why is there 10 more pages.

[Benmage]

I hate to break it to you guys, but Benmage is confirmed not a lyncher. I am a daytime wincop, and he wins when all threats to the game are gone. (So does Faraday.) Kise, therefore, is likely town.

Oh gg, reading.

[Benmage]

Oh i'm no cop

[Benmage]

HE'S LYING.
AHA
YES.

Unvote
Vote: Ben

No one targeted you last night. Nice try.

You must be dumb, so let me hold your hand through this one. Faraday said in our QT he was protecting me...he turned out to be a Body guard, and is dead. What do you think I was thinking?? Maybe someone killed him straight-up or maybe you wouldn't see a Body Guard protection. Or maybe you're dumb.

And SC cleared me, so stop being bad.

[Benmage]

THE FUCK.

THE FUCKING FUCK.


I'VE FAKE GUILTIES BEFORE BUT BECAUSE SOMEONE IS USING CAPS?

OH HELL NO.

Go Say how town SP is some more.

[Benmage]

Oh i'm no cop

......


I posted my whole fucking PM for this assclown.

WE COULDA HAD VEZO LYNCHED STRAIGHT UP AND MY ROLE SAVED.

THE FUCK.

YOU BETTER EXPLAIN YOUR FUCKING SELF.

You're still ruining the game. I said in some ancient post of mine around page 11ish (Reck linked, hence key talk) That I'd hang you spammers, who will make anyone to replace this game impossible. Will allow lurkers to go unnoticed, and will make the game overall poor. Exhibit A Yesterday, Exhibit B Todays opening 10 pages.

[Benmage]

....
Dramonic...was that to me?

And dumbass of the year award goes tooooo dunt dunt dunt

[Benmage]

Um, if Faraday "protects you" that doesn't mean you're cleared.

SC has daycop cleared me, what more do you want??

I went after the SPAM TArds and look 2 scum.

[Benmage]

ANd

vote Ellibereth

Looks like my cop claim did wonders. Caught a killer. Stopped Yesterday's spam, and the spam squad actually got serious and the day didn't goto 200 pages but ended.

All checks in my book.

[Benmage]

I tracked Benmage. I know what ABILITIES he uses and whoever TARGETS him.

Oh thats cool, I could do my day action now if we want.

[Benmage]

Do it benmage. Please.

Its beneficial to town, should I just share it, not sure who I should use it on.

[Benmage]

Can you switch at any time Exe with your ability, or only tonight, cause I could use it on you.

[Benmage]

Riiight well its probably best used on you than....soo fuckit lets do that?

[Benmage]

Do it Ben. I'm ok with it.

Message sent.

[Benmage]

Wait Exe did you see SC day target me?

[Benmage]

Ok, Ben, doesn't it sound to YOU like it's an ability-name tracker?

Booo

[Benmage]

BTW BENMAGE YOU MIGHT WANT TO CLAIM YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE A FARADAY KILL SUGGESTS HE CLAIMED POWER IN THE QT THEN GOT SHOT.

Uhh or me claiming cop drew a kill

[Benmage]

Oh exe, i just got a night result that says your stalking me...soooo it wont be subtle me thinks.

[Benmage]

So you're a female. Got it.

THAT MEANS ANY PROTOWN PLAYER WHO GETS TARGETED BY MY WATCH AND HAS IT REVEALED SHOULDN'T CLAIM SUCH.
Anywho. 'Nuff said.

Vote: Kise

I support this.

Hmm pmm says nothing of gender me thinks, but w/e...

Anyways Why is there a Kise wagon anyways...seems like a waste imo.

[Benmage]

<<
>>
There's still a lot going on that isn't fucked up

<3 dram
With complex roles, very easy to get confused.

Oh exe,

i just got

a

night result

that says your stalking me...soooo it wont be subtle me thinks.

? You got a PM in the night saying exe is stalking you?

[Benmage]

^^^oh yeah he's scum Ellie.


Big fucking time.

And SP's town right?

[Benmage]

ALSO GUYS THE MORE WE POST THE LESS LIKELY SOMEONE IS TO REPLACE ANON
WTF

No fucking shit.

I think Reck or Elli should be lynched today.

unvote vote xRECKONERx

[Benmage]

Benmage you realize no one gives a fuck what you think since you're reads are shit and consist of: EVERYONE CAPSLOCKING MUST BE SCUM!?

YO SPYREX:
Do that mod-outguess thing where you explain to the rest of town exactly why Elliebereth is scum who shot Benmage last night and he let it slip that Ellie targeted Ben to Exe when he shouldn't have cause Ellie "targeted" Faraday instead.

Yeah i take that back, we need reck to double kill vezo

unvote vote Ellibereth

Fate, look at your reads...hint hint, they've been bad.

[Benmage]

And Kise hate is why again?

[Benmage]

BENMAGE'S VOTE ON ME IS SO LULZY

You did kill Nik

[Benmage]

Did he just speak french at me?

Unvote:
Vote: Nikanor

Obvscum.

STOP BEING CAUTIOUS. WEIRD =/= CAUTIOUS.

GANDALF IS SCUM SO THROW A VOTE DOWN ON HIM LIKE A MAN.

FUCK COUNTING.

COUNTING'S FOR PRE-SCHOOLERS AND SHORT PEOPLE.

BENMAGE A LYNCHER?
MORE LIKELY THAN YOU THINK

!!

DID YOU JUST FUCKING VIG SOCIOPATH?

VOTE: PARAMA

YOUR THIRD-ASS FUCKING PARTY DIES NOW.

1 in 4...

Thanks for claiming serial killer or whatever the hell you just did.

We'll leave you alive if you continue to shoot scum though.

5?

[Benmage]

Oh minor Epiphany Faraday was in QT with Chrono as 1 of his other QT guys.

[Benmage]

I'm being an idiot(sort've) lets get this Kai process goin.

unvote vote Kise

[Benmage]

Ben I'm going to strangle you forever. FATE is not getting lynched today. Period.

Fate can live lets kill Elle.

Potentially Reck tomorrow after he kills vezo.

BC kill elli

[Benmage]

DRAM IS SILLY OWL BECAUSE I ORIGINALLY TARGETTED BEN BUT THEN SWITCHED IT TO SOMEONE ELSE AND HE MISSED IT.

I think Elli should claim...what would she be targeting me if not to kill me.

[Benmage]

Ohh I could get behind TL as well.

Real quick for my theory: Ben's soul as well, isn't he? OMG ROLEFISH

u sunuvabitch

[Benmage]

unvote vote the longing

[Benmage]

Fine lets have BC confirmed, then BC can shoot Elli..and who actually becomes todays lynch?

unvote vote BC

[Benmage]

@Benmage: READ MY FUCKING POST. ELLI DOESN'T DIE. YOU WILL FOLLOW MY ORDERS OR YOU WILL BE SHOT FOR THE HELL OF IT. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE OF THE CONFIRMED PLAYERS THAT GETS NO SAY IN HOW WE PROCEED. I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH ANY MORE OF YOUR BULLSHIT THIS GAME.

Gonna go ahead and go with no. I'm voting BC, so stop struttin around like your hot shit.

You even confirmed?

[Benmage]

Kairyuu, how about you test that claim with your vote first? If he's telling the truth as he said, your vote won't be the hammer and you don't lose the vote - you can let someone else vote and THEN use your ability to test his alignment.
And if he's lying, well, your vote will kill him regardless, because if he's lying he certainly not aligned with the town.

I doubt hes kidding, be cause if he is than hes just dead.

And Kai, if its your iso 35 its not exactly foolproof....But we're going with it, so take the stick out your ass at least a couple inches. And which Iso or post can I see your confirmation?

[Benmage]

@Benmage: Iso post 16, 17, and 20 provide my confirmation.

K, works for me.

[Benmage]

As a huge LAL proponent I can see the reasoning behind wanting anon dead...but can we really fault him in

this

game.

I'd rather lynch someone like Elli, but w/e's

[Benmage]

OY! BENMAGE! PUT ON SOME FUCKING GLASSES AND READ THE THREAD! ELLI DOESN'T DIE! ELLI IS ON THE TOWN LIST! IF YOU CONTINUE TO PUSH THIS SHIT THEN I WILL HAVE NO PROBLEMS LOOKING THE OTHER WAY WHILE RECK SHOOTS YOU IN THE FACE!

Just cause shes a cap spammer dont mean shit. Look at SP. But you'd rather kill me, a cleared townie...yeah you rock

[Benmage]

*sigh*
Whatevs. Someone explain to me how we have so many goddamned lurkers.

You must be the dumbest motherfucker in the world if you don't know why there are so many lurkers....Think...do you know?

P.S Fate has 183 posts in this thread and I have 87. And I'm the one clogging up the thread. durrrr

The dudes a fucking newbass r'tard, ignore him.

BECAUSE.
SNOW.
IS.
SCUM.

Wow this method fails a lot.


Faraday, you rock muthafucka

unvote vote Ellibereth

[Benmage]

Oh hai Benmage I'm the dumbass newb'tard but you're claiming guilties on obvtown like a fucking idiot?

Oh ok.

You wouldn't have the balls to do what I did.

[Benmage]

I still don't see why we're letting Benmage off the hook for his bullshit cop claim, but whatever.

Cause I'm confirmed town...

Kai, why would you do that...I used my ability on Exe....

[Benmage]

@Benmage: So what? I don't trust you to use your abilities in a pro-town manner, so I took them away. All of this could have been avoided if you had been capable of following simple directions in the first place.

Talk about a cry baby kid who took his ball and ran away. Worst move ever.

Why didn't Exe see Ythan's ability on me last night? Lies?

[Benmage]

God Ben you are just awful at this game.

Reck, I'll fooooorgive you when you flip 3rd party.

[Benmage]

Ythan ask Dram when you used the action on me...which phase, which day.

[Benmage]

><

Let's make this quick and painless.

Vote: StrangerCoug

Lol

unvote vote StrangerCoug

Also interested in seeing what Ythan's response is from Dram.

[Benmage]

Vote: StrangerCoug

When he flips scum, Ben's head in a noose plz

Woah woah. We'll have Kai confirm me.

[Benmage]

Point A - You lied about an investigation result to get someone lynched when you had no investigation result.
Point B - You were gonna be lynched until SC's fake result on you saved you.

Nah, we were gonna have kai confirm me...which we'll still do, but oh wait your 3rd party ass will probably just kill me tomorrow, and spam to blind victory?

Guys, Exe's report has Stranger visiting Ben near the start of the day so I don't think he's lying about that part. I don't think Ben is scum with SC.

BAM

You're the town spammer is what you are.

QFT

[Benmage]

Lmao.... a tear fell down my face just now. Also, as a little sidenote, I find it funny that Ben & Kai's abilities are complete opposites.

Huh?

[Benmage]

Lmao.... a tear fell down my face just now. Also, as a little sidenote, I find it funny that Ben & Kai's abilities are complete opposites.

Huh?

Would you mind sharing with the people what your ability is, por favor?

Oh nvm, I was thinking along the lines of the cop-like ability kai has.

[Benmage]

AHHHHHHHHHH RECK, told ya I'd forgive you!

Am I amazing, or am I amazing?

[Benmage]

Maybe there was backlash in reck being destroyed, I don't know.

Do you think we've knocked out one scum group with 3 dead?

[Benmage]

Mmmm edit that, probably a red Godfather of sorts out there.

[Benmage]

Kai, so much fail

SC was a win cop, should still confirm me imo.

Theres also likely a red GF, so I wouldn't count them out.

Fate could likely be the Red GF is you ask me. Would your hammer confirmation work on a GF, i'm thinking no.

[Benmage]

@Benmage: So a SCUM cop says you're town. Excuse me if I don't believe that confirms you in the least.

But you've had your head up the spam teams ass, and thats worked out well(sarcasm). Hes a wincop why would he lie about me? If you believe the red team dead, I wouldn't be his member, if I was purple he'd want me dead for extra town cred, you make no sense, you are fucking trash.

@DTM: Based on my assumptions, the red mafia is gone, and the purple mafia has 2 members left. In order to get at me, they'd have to go down to 1 member by blocking you, and . . . I JUST HAD A BRILLIANT IDEA.

So your convinced the read team has no GF, but the purple did?

If they wanted to kill you couldn't they just kill Exe and then kill you?

[Benmage]

2. The fact remains that he flipped scum, and your apparent desperation to live is anti-town given that, assuming you're town, my plan gives you an assured win if you just shut up and go along with it.

I'm not convinced your plan is fool proof, and you blew a powerful move on me, a townie..so w.t.f am I suppose to think, especially in this bastard setting, and you playing anti-town.

Also I've been going along with most things. And you've not exactly been "kind" to me this game.

1. My role is not a cop investigation. If I hammer a scum GF then said GF will die.

2. They CAN kill Exe first so that they can kill me without losing the second member, but if they do that then they have to waste an entire cycle, by which point the game should be over anyway. The double-action should keep me alive regardless of what the scum have.

Sold.
We'll see.

So we springing up Kise of Fate?

[Benmage]

Unvote vote Eli

[Benmage]

@Parama: Benmage is also a legitimate shot.

I do not believe Kairyuu's ability just auto confirms him. I'm thinking some sort of bastard GF mechanic, and I am more than willing to lynch him, and or have a vig shoot him. He has been incredibly anti-town in his play this game.

[Benmage]

See Kai, your scum, and by scum I mean at the very least Spy's definition. You did an anti-town move, using you ult on me when if you actually look at my actions I have been nothing but the spitting image of a town person. I've been following your so called plan to victory and yet you keep saying how obstinate I am. When in reality you just keep falling back to the desire to want me dead on the basis that I am harmful to town with my abilities which had zero validity. I used my move in a beneficial town way on Exe, yet you still nullified me. Terrible play.

You keep calling for my head because I refuse to accept this cut n dry fool proof plan of yours(despite going along with it) in a bastard setting. Sorry I'm a realist and your play has been scummy.

And look at two of the people I've attacked. Reck and SP.

I appreciated your apology. I apologize for my behavior and any insults directed to you. But your play this game and your reads are dreadful. That said I hope I can be vindicated with the dung thrown at me to keep me down as I was with Reck.

God Ben you are just awful at this game.

Reck, I'll fooooorgive you when you flip 3rd party.

[Benmage]

@Kai do you think the killings from last night give credence to the fact that it is likely red faction still exists?

[Benmage]

Well, I think red is officially dunzo. Manho did claim some sort of third party jaunt. (I'm thinking to avoid Kai complications) We may want to look under the Parama shoe.

[Benmage]

Please keep silent, big brother.

Welcome to Cross Edge Bastard Hell,

Benmage

. You are

Cece, Mature Child

. You are the middle child and the most collected of the trio. Politics and diplomacy are your forte, and you'd rather this resolve with no conflicts.

Race:

Soul

Faction:

Order

You are a

Soul Empowerer Neighbor

. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Pure Soul

- Being born from this world, you do not possess a real body. As such, actions that would only affected defeated players will work on you even while you are alive.

Family Affairs

- You are in a neighborhood with Vivi (Faraday) and Mimi (Kise).

Active Abilities:

Registration

- Each day, you may choose a target. Anything messing with your target's actions will be nulled for 2 phases.

Ultimate:

Ultimate:
Cost:

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per day.

Family Affairs:

Win Condition (Order):

You win when all threats have left the game, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm via return PM.

The topic is here: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 92&start=0

Edited out Ultimate/fam affairs obviously.

[Benmage]

Woah, does being pure soul mean anything about Exe watching me?

[Benmage]

I didn't target Exe until after he had confirmed things on me.

Yes Kise has quoted his PM, and in our QT I corrected him when he initially wrongly accused Nik if you all recall.

[Benmage]

No Kai, I don't see a reason at this juncture to show my ultimate. But I'll reveal that I cannot at this point in the game use it...I suppose I could reveal the cost

[Benmage]

Pure Soul - Being born from this world, you do not possess a real body. As such, actions that would only affected defeated players will work on you even while you are alive.

Which makes sense for Manho to be fake claiming. But please confirm if you are action immune Benmage because Nikanor claimed action immune unless: it means that you go straight to destroyed and Nikanor over thought his intrinsic ability.

I have no clue if I'm action immune, going with no seeing as Kai nulled me (duh @me) myb here.

[Benmage]

Exe didn't confirm anything, other then claim actions that were performed before he full claimed his results.

Which was prior to me using my move on him, hence his move going through whatever pure soul is which has seemed pretty meaningless thus far, now looking back at what Kai did to me.

[Benmage]

@Benmage: Alrighty then. With that piece of targetting time info, it's either a mod error or you're scum

I don't understand, how did you get to this conclusion? What targeting time thing?

[Benmage]

Or Pure SOul isn't what we think it is...or i have no clue, see bastard modding.

Butt as for the Ythan time frame thing, I just relooked at what he did, i believe if I'm correct his action would've taken place over D1/N1 and I didn't use anything until D2, hence the no broadcasting.

[Benmage]

When you stop and reread it: It reads as

Being born from this world, you do not possess a real body.

As such, actions that would only affected defeated players will work on you even while you are alive.

There are 2 actions: Ones that work on alive people. One that only work on defeated people. It doesn't read as untargetability.

Yeah it reads like that but the stalk thing and what kai did seemed like it would be something on alive people, not defeated people...but i'm at a loss.

[Benmage]

Which makes sense because you are alive

as in Still Roaming

Woooooshhhh what? Maybe its too late and my cognitive thinking has turned off, but I don't get it.

[Benmage]

Meaning you're not action immune. The last part reads as a clause saying additional actions that normally don't effect people in the "still roaming" column will affect souls. .

Ahhhh ok that explains exe and kais actions.

[Benmage]

I get it, I get it.

[Benmage]

I oppose a Parama killing of KMD i wanna see him claim as well as exe and inhim.

[Benmage]

Think I can answer faraday?

[Benmage]

No but I could here....butttt I don't think I should. I don't need anymore jackassery modkills.

[Benmage]

I think you'll be fine.

[Benmage]

We need to get things a rolling

KmD claim
Parama directed kill
Elli hammer confirmed.

[Benmage]

We still need KmD claim, Elli hammered, Parama directed kill.

[Benmage]

So I was right about Elli too...lets mod-hammer someone else, and get a lynching.

[Benmage]

@Benmage: You were not right about Elli. He's a pro-town leaning neutral role attempting to protect a town role.

He doesn't share the town wincon. He's third party, not town.

don't trust elli fwiw, claiming some sort of useless neutral role was probably the only way she wasn't going to be 'hammer tested' as we'd have tested her if not most likely.

This. It could easy be some ploy to survive through Kai. I don't like it.

[Benmage]

Sooooo someone prod the mod.

[Benmage]

Okkk..5 red...wierd.

[Benmage]

So, Snow_Bunny and Eli...lets do this.

[Benmage]

@KAI

you ever post your role pm?

[Benmage]

@Kai

can you ask what would happen if you self-hammer?

[Benmage]

@gandalf: We already know what Whim is. Whim was Elli's Bulletproof Vest. It died instead of him.

And Elli isn't town, but still alive

[Benmage]

What is this confirm hammered stuff you're talking about?

[Benmage]

unvote vote Snow_Bunny

THATS L-1 Gogogo KAI

[Benmage]

unvote, vote: SB

Let's make this a tradition

And tomorrow you die.

[Benmage]

Woahhhpulled a fast one, go Parama, sooo cool...and I really almost felt anger in that last one congrats,

[Benmage]

Vote: Snow_Bunny

Alright. Time to lynch Elli.

Couldn't agree more.

[Benmage]

Vote: Snow_Bunny

Alright. Time to lynch Elli.

Couldn't agree more.

^REASON #2 NOT TO LYNCH ELLI.

REASON #1 BEING SHE DIES TONIGHT OR WE LYNCH HIM TOMORROW>

SO LOLWUT?

Fine, this is acceptable. UNVOTE: VOTE: Benmage

This is terrible play. SC has confirmed me. He flipped red and called me town. Had I been purple he would've called me out for town cred.

If we want to be redundant have Kai confirm me tomorrow, but lynching me is simply a poor an illogical move.

Yes Fate I understand you play illogically and emotionally and don't care if you win or lose as long as you feeeeeel good, but I among other things PTW.

Elli who has claimed 3rd party is todays lynch.

Unvote vote Elli

[Benmage]

If Snow Bunny isn't town, all further voting nonsense is useless <.<

Well yeah, but I don't want to slow down town if he is townie.

^^^^^^^^^

2ND MOST TOWNIEST THING YOU COULD'VE SAID

I WANT TO HAMMER BENMAGE THOUGH GOD IT WILL FEEL SOOO GOOD

I LEAVE IT TO YOU THEN IN THE EVENT S_B IS TOWN AND I'VE LOST MY VOTE.

Stuff like this definitely in this bastard setting makes me distrust your alignment.

[Benmage]

and don't care if you win or lose

SAYS THE GUY THAT FAKED A GUILTY ON CONFIRMED TOWN.

IM HOPIN SB IS TOWN IN THAT WEIRD PERVERTED WAYYYYYY

I'll take your deflection as acceptance.

[Benmage]

I ACCEPT THAT I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU FLIP JUST THAT YOU GET LYNCHED AND HOPEFULLY LEARN TO NOT BE A MORON IN OUR UPCOMING GAME.

I ALSO ACCEPT THAT YOU WON'T LEARN AND YOU THINK YOUR GUILTY ON ME TOOK "BALLS" AND WAS "GOOD OPSTIN" OR WHATEVER

So you agree that logic says I'm probably town. But emotion has blinded you into this foolish crusade that you are currently not PTW.

[Benmage]

DTM I really do hope you're actually town doc.

unvote

Vote: Benmage

OK let's break down your argument for you:

YOU ARE NOT CONFIRMED

There, am I done?

How am I not confirmed?

For redundant purpose we could have kai double confirm me tomorrow, but killing me today is simply wrong play.

I don't expect you to really explain a case. The town will willfully choose to lose this game. It is depressing.

[Benmage]

SC is scum. Why are we expected to have believed him?

Well if you think logically. The red team must be(or very likely) destroyed by now. So the chances of me being red are slim to nothing. Now he(SC) flipped Win-Cop and said I have the town WC. Had I been purple scum(opposing scum) he would've relished in the chance to gain town cred and call me out. So the likelyhood of me being purple scum is again slim to nothing.

That said if there's doubt have Kai confirm me tomorrow. But lynching this very likely mislynch is simply poor play.

[Benmage]

I do kinda want to link to a newbie game where scum claimed cop with a town result on town, only to be counter claimed and lynched. The idea isn't that farfetched.

SC flipped Wincon-Cop. See everything I said following that.

[Benmage]

Have Kai double confirm me! Its so simple. Lynch the third party.

[Benmage]

Preference is Benmage, if for no other reason than to shut him up, but given that I lack a vote right now, I can't really do anything to further that aim.

And you wonder why I make comments about your atrocious level of play here.

[Benmage]

I think we are assuming a lot that dram will auto remove eli with spy destroyed.

[Benmage]

I think we are assuming a lot that dram will auto remove eli with spy destroyed.

No, we aren't at all. If elli has no way he could win the game, why would he keep playing?

Its a bastard setting. Who knows.

[Benmage]

Hidden WC if X occurs. Who knows. You're probably right, but have we seen much bastardness in this game?

[Benmage]

@Benmage: Wanting you dead != bad play. That is the last I will say on the subject.

It is when you say you want me dead just to shut me up.

[Benmage]

What is Occam's Razor?

Its like the simplest answer is the right one..You can look it up on mafiawiki.

[Benmage]

So is ooba the one to hang?

[Benmage]

Benmage, do you still think I'm scum?

Since I've been confirmed by Imhim, is it not true that I single handedly lynched scum D1 in the face of your fake guilty?

So what the fuck makes you think I'm a bad player?

You panicked and got lucky. Look at your read on Reck, SP, and Elli...am i right? So far we haven't seen a spam squad not flip an anti-town roll. Even if you do flip town, I'd be 3 for 4....not bad.

I'd have to think about your alignment. It's been a rollercoaster, and call me crazy for not thinking this game is a locked up and bulletproof as Kai has been pushing. Its bastard setting, and you and him keep calling for my head doesn't exactly calm my nerves.

[Benmage]

So what the fuck makes you think I'm a bad player?

If it wasn't for what I did they day maybe never of ended..and you never would've ulted Vezo, and who knows where we'd be. To many what ifs.

The spam squad was still detrimental to the town. Again look at how many flipped anti-town. You defended these people to hells end. And call townies scum all game. (hint hint me)

[Benmage]

ALSO your recent play hasn't been anything except sheeping "ok so lets do this. Ok so oobas the one to hang? Ok so why aren't we pushing this?"

I've been forced into a back seat into this game because of you and Kai putting down anything I say.

Even now you(both probably) think I'm town but want me dead. because of what? A gamble? To do what? Teach me a lesson. Come off it. That's not

playing to win.

This game is suppose to be bullet proof; on lockdown. If I don't sheep I eat shit for it. I'm in a relative nonchalant mood here. I have little desire to go an iso people like TL and ooba who are "?'s" in my mind, and thus have been giving other games I'm in more attention. Because players like you have sucked the fun out of this game. This game should be in the 50's instead of the 80's.

Regardless I'm still pushing an Elli lynch, and have been all day. So whats the issue? If we kill ooba I'm fine with that too, but I'd prefer Elli and I've stated why. She admits to an anti-town role.

Faraday and Kise seem to be the only voice of reason here, because the inexperienced like Gandalf will actually sheep to your demands and lynch someone you guys believe to be town. Me. Watching this town operate is depressing.

[Benmage]

Inhim is suppose to be role confirmed. He has 15 posts this game. You call him a town player? This is a bastard setting.

[Benmage]

I don't know but in this bastard setting the mod could easily of lied to Kai.....EASILY.

The last game I tried to break was WoT Kinetic's game which should've been a bastard game because the whole puzzle thing we tried to solve was there only to confuse us. The town got assraped. We failed to catch scum committing rudimentary tells.

What is Inhim doing?

Let's kill Elli,(or ooba) see what night brings, see what happens with parama's next kill, and go from there.

PREVIEW: I dont see it as an all or nothing sweep...but if it was theres already 5 dead red, and 1 dead purple...wheres the balance here? Is there a roll screwing with flips? Like in Battle Mage Bastards game? Maybe...

How much bastardness have we seen thus far? (The answer is Zero)

[Benmage]

and mod confirmation that there isn't alignment change bastardy mechanics,

EBWOP: woops.

[Benmage]

Right my bad on the mechanic things. Not sure if the rules mean he couldnt PM lie (aren't there mod notes to pms alot with bastard settings?) moving on. My brain is fried this late. Lets see if Elli is removed, if not we can lynch tomorrow and do all sorts've fun crap than....rant rant...

unvote vote ooba

[Benmage]

OMG EXPLAIN TO ME WHY DRAM WOULD MOD ANNOUNCE ROLE INFORMATION IN GAME? TO LIE ABOUT THIS? To give scum an advantage by throwing out a fake bone to the town?

Please mod, do doubly confirm that the above quoted information is correct

No, I yield that the quote is correct and the flips are accurate.

Does it also mean role PMS are without lies/hidden info?

[Benmage]

Dude, if they PM lied, that means

All three humans had to PM lie

.

Well if one or even two was a scummer and in the loop his pm wouldn't have to be a lie.

Its late maybe I'm missing it...the 1 purple scum scares me. Let's kill ooba and see what happens.

[Benmage]

What is stalling this lynch?

[Benmage]

Some *ahem me* are confirmed through logic. Or one could say more confirmed than others.

[Benmage]

Nice modnote, no daycop . Why'd I have to get the bland role!

I'm in for Alphabet Mafia

I'm still not sure about the setup...the town won, sure but there were a lot of anti-town roles. Elli essentially being a traitor is definitely bastardish. But all in all I feel like there wasn't that much bastardly things going on.

I don't think I could put this as most enjoyable .

Reck, we still buddies? How about that call...."I'll forgive you when you flip 3rd party."

A shame about whatever outside thread things went down. You had a long hike ahead of you. Not putting it as a loss is fine...a win is a stretch.

[Benmage]

My only regret is never getting to shoot anyone ever.

My lord.

/pre-in

I wanted to use my ultimate and shoot too!

[Benmage]

Agreed. Sometimes with so much PR's and crazyness we lose the essence of Mafia. We weren't even playing the game..just following a puzzle.

[Benmage]

I hate scum traitor roles. Has a scum team ever gotten wise to a traitor? I see it so unlikely and terrible damaging to a scum team.

Yes I lost a game as scum because of a traitor . And it wasn't even a bastard setting!

[Benmage]

And they win If I win too so....

Oh well...as long as the scum team wins, and you basically have an additional WC is fine.

This wasn't the case in my scenario *grumble *grumble*

bitter

[Benmage]

Word, hookup the qt's...I wanna know why I died too.

[Benmage]

Word, hookup the qt's...I wanna know why I died too.