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Post Post #1525 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:02 am

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Making sense of this one-step at a time ...

Chronopie, Judas the Soul Chaotic Self-Watcher, was defeated night 1 -> BC's kill
Hence BC's vig defeats instead of destroying his targets. Therefore SypreX or Ythan (I'm ignoring BC himself and the ???)
"Why haven't you used news flash yet Ythan?" implies Ythan suspicion
Hence BC killed Ythan.
(with the caveat that there's the possibility he did not kill in the night and converted someone to vampire)

Parama, did ya use your ultimate yesterday?

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Post Post #1526 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:04 am

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well that seems obv, surely no vig in their right mind would EVER shoot spyrex.
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Post Post #1527 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:07 am

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oops i died
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Post Post #1528 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:11 am

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/sigh

Figures.

The "everyone else" list is now:
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@Parama: Kill Anon
@all: We'll hammer-test Kise, and then lynch Benmage.

The non-town roles are probably laid out like this:
3-3-1-1-1

where:
3 = red scum
3 = purple scum
1 = manho
1 = reck
1 = parama

By that logic, we've got 2 scum left. Those scum are PROBABLY contained in the 4 remaining "everyone else" players, but it's POSSIBLE that they could be contained in:

Fate
Elli
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Upon further examination of Fate's claim, it's actually very possible that he's purple scum. I'd like to hammer confirm him instead of Kise.

@TL: Is DTM a bomb now?
@Exe: Did anyone target me last night?

@Exe and DTM: New plan. I just realized that the original plan was flawed, and a simple roleblock breaks the chain. From this point forward, only DTM should target me, making it impossible to kill me without losing at least one scum in the process (something it should be rather impossible to do right now). Exe has free reign, but should claim all results.

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Post Post #1529 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:12 am

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Kai: Yes, DTM is now a bomb.
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Post Post #1530 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:12 am

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who was hammer tested yesterday?
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Post Post #1531 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:13 am

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Wait. I don't get to see what happens to Anon? Well, I also saw Anon post and not come in here, so he's done with this game I bet. baw
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Post Post #1532 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:17 am

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oh bC. I prefer a snowbunny lynch to benmage by a fair bit. Benmage has no useful abillities if he is scum. hell he can't even talk in our fucking quicktopic. i don't really think he's scum anyway so yeah.
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Post Post #1533 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:23 am

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Kai, so much fail :(

SC was a win cop, should still confirm me imo.

Theres also likely a red GF, so I wouldn't count them out.

Fate could likely be the Red GF is you ask me. Would your hammer confirmation work on a GF, i'm thinking no.
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Post Post #1534 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:25 am

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GF's are aligned with mafia so I'd still say yes. I'd much rather test hammer on Kise, or we could lynch him today b(^_^b)
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Post Post #1535 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:32 am

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don't you mean d(^_^d) ?
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Post Post #1536 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:39 am

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it was supposed to be middle finger, but in that case I'd use t(^_^t). :P
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Post Post #1537 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:47 am

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Except scum wouldn't shoot the doctor bomb. If they still had a role block they'd block me and kill off the rest of the investigation roles. V.V;;.
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Post Post #1538 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:48 am

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Actually the fact that scum didn't block the doctor and didn't choose to shoot Exe shows a lack of blocking, or a lack of coordination within scum.
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Post Post #1539 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:50 am

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If anyone visits you DTM, they die along with you. Even if it's roleblocking.
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Post Post #1540 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:50 am

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So no one can use any actions on you, lest they die with you.
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Post Post #1541 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:53 am

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Well then that changes a lot, and makes me rigged unless scum is willing to sacrafice for a doc. Therefore a block is possible. I'll wait for claims to assess if we can keep the chain alive.
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Post Post #1542 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:04 am

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@Benmage: So a SCUM cop says you're town. Excuse me if I don't believe that confirms you in the least.

@TL: Sorry, but I'm not waiting any longer for Anon to be replaced, and with your original ability gone, there's no real point in seeing what the side effects were anyway.

@DTM: Based on my assumptions, the red mafia is gone, and the purple mafia has 2 members left. In order to get at me, they'd have to go down to 1 member by blocking you, and . . . I JUST HAD A BRILLIANT IDEA.

@Exe: You should stalk me still. If you stalk me and DTM protects me then the scum would need to sacrifice ALL REMAINING MEMBERS in order to get through the wall of actions. Reasoning is as follows:

If they want to kill me, they need to block DTM, which takes out one of them, and they ALSO need to target me with the kill, which is revealed to Exe. Therefore, both would end up dead if they killed me, making me essentially unkillable.
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Post Post #1543 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:55 am

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Kairyuu wrote:@Benmage: So a SCUM cop says you're town. Excuse me if I don't believe that confirms you in the least.
But you've had your head up the spam teams ass, and thats worked out well(sarcasm). Hes a wincop why would he lie about me? If you believe the red team dead, I wouldn't be his member, if I was purple he'd want me dead for extra town cred, you make no sense, you are fucking trash.
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So your convinced the read team has no GF, but the purple did?

If they wanted to kill you couldn't they just kill Exe and then kill you?
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Post Post #1544 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:33 pm

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Benmage wrote:
Kairyuu wrote:@Benmage: So a SCUM cop says you're town. Excuse me if I don't believe that confirms you in the least.
But you've had your head up the spam teams ass, and thats worked out well(sarcasm). Hes a wincop why would he lie about me? If you believe the red team dead, I wouldn't be his member, if I was purple he'd want me dead for extra town cred, you make no sense, you are fucking trash.

1. The "spam team" provided me a nice little springboard into the spot where I control most of the game and have a large pile of confirmed townies to back me.

2. The fact remains that he flipped scum, and your apparent desperation to live is anti-town given that, assuming you're town, my plan gives you an assured win if you just shut up and go along with it.

3. Ad hom is not nice. I'm sick of dealing with you and the fact that you're incapable of playing in a civil manner.

Kairyuu wrote: @DTM: Based on my assumptions, the red mafia is gone, and the purple mafia has 2 members left. In order to get at me, they'd have to go down to 1 member by blocking you, and . . . I JUST HAD A BRILLIANT IDEA.
So your convinced the read team has no GF, but the purple did?

If they wanted to kill you couldn't they just kill Exe and then kill you?

1. My role is not a cop investigation. If I hammer a scum GF then said GF will die.

2. They CAN kill Exe first so that they can kill me without losing the second member, but if they do that then they have to waste an entire cycle, by which point the game should be over anyway. The double-action should keep me alive regardless of what the scum have.

@Fate: I'm going to defer all responses to Benmage from this point to you. I don't feel like responding to someone who manages to both lack the ability to play rationally AND lack the ability to recognize when he should shut up. I figure that if you're the one responding in my stead that he'll get pissed off enough dealing with one of "the spammers" that he'll shut up.
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Post Post #1545 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:33 pm

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Bolded mine, in case you couldn't tell.
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Post Post #1546 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:34 pm

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not interested in a Benmage lynch at this juncture. there's far better options.
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Post Post #1547 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:35 pm

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his point about SC is valid too, I think Benmage is prob not purple scum or SC would have wanted him dead.
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Post Post #1548 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:35 pm

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Vote Snow_Bunny
FOR GREAT JUSTICE. Parama shoot ANON PLZ.
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Post Post #1549 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:37 pm

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Hmm I'm okay with confirming Kise although I don't trust your abillity to be 100% effective in all honesty.

but yeah, let's go with that, i'd be shocked if he's scum tbh.
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