concerned wrote:In my mind I had cleared you for that quote
and
(
instead of but
) I've had second thoughts about that,
especially since it turns out oxide was town and he was the one who said the quote could be taken either way. At the time I thought it might be scum trying to mislead me but clearly it was an unbiased townie opinion.
When you take the fact that I had cleared you in my mind away, I definitely think you could be scum. There are 8 of us left I'm almost certain Zach, Cuet and Jason are town I know I'm town and I'm starting to leaning town for SSBF that only leaves three players: You, DP and the antonio slot, so quite frankly I'm willing to hop a wagon on any of those players, from my view it's a 66% chance of hitting scum.
So Oxide points out my reference from Butterfly was a null tell, which Concerned says it was misleading him (onto what, I have no idea), in case an Ox-scum existed. This on its own is already pretty bad logic, and seems like a bad attempt at faking suspicion. Then he uses Oxide's death as an excuse to stop thinking I'm obv town. this does not make sense - for starters, Oxide pointed it was a null tell (from Concerned's perspective), so it shouldn't be misleading him in any way, therefore making both "events" INDEPENDENT of each other. Oxide's opinion doesn't really need to influence Concerned, yet by the way he writes this quote, it's clear one of the main reasons for Concerned's stance was Oxide's own position.
The second part grows a little more. The 66% chance just seems like weird stuff spatted out of his mouth to emphasize a point which doesn't really need emphasis. Interesting enough, the three players Concerned mentions are scum are the towns "easiest targets", those to which the town is turning to the most. (also the lurker.). He doesn't really provide explanation on how SSBF is now "slowly" leaning town.
Concerned wrote:Cautious? I didn't want to hammer, I've never had any qualms about putting someone on L-1, because I like to get as much information as possible from each day.
Putting someone on L-1 hardly equates to a lynch, that said I also feel more confident about DP at this point than I did about Nacho or Butterfly, both of which I was never quite sure about.
Silly excuses, here. For a hammer to exist, obviously a L1 also NEEDS to exist. concerned, have you ever had trouble for hammmering someone? What are you afraid of? Isn't it common knowledge that, when you vote someone, it's for pressure or to express your desire for a lynch? Problem with L1 is that it is a very dangerous position for someone to be him, usually someone who wants to apply pressure does not L1 someone. Yet not only have you L1'd someone before, you admit to not being very sure on the other two lynches. "In case something goes wrong, you guys know I was never really sure".
Concerned wrote:DavidParker is clearly obsessed with the night kill, I'm convinced he's scum just based on this. There is simply no reason for someone who wasn't involved in the kills to be so obsessed with them.
If I had to guess I'd say DP is scum, and we do have some sort of power role in play that is effecting the kills and that is causing him to freak out. It's either that or
DP is the PR who is causing the shenanigans and this is his weak attempt at hiding this fact (I hate to bring this up but it's the only other option I would accept).
The bolded part is pure genius. Not only it looks like concerned gets a litle concerned over geting DP lynched, he seems to be reaching at straws. Dubbing DP's interest in the NK's as "obsessive" and dubbing it as "definite scum" seems pretty off to me, considering the fact that DP brought it up because they weren't really being discussed, and because the line immedietly after he says "If I had to guess".
Wait, I was wrong, no. Actually the blue bolded is absolute genius.
Now, we know for a fact that Concerned is the Vig. Let's assume that for the moment. Notice what he says. Why would a vig, who knows he's the one behind the killings, suggest DP as
THE
possible PR that is causing the "sheningans" he's trying to hide? Also, when he claimed Vig, he said that the reason why he wanted to know why DP was "obsessed" was because he, Concerned, was the one making those kills. Let's compare this.
If I had to guess I'd say DP is scum, and we do have some sort of power role in play that is effecting the kills and that is causing him to freak out. It's either that or DP is the PR who is causing the shenanigans and this is his weak attempt at hiding this fact (I hate to bring this up but it's the only other option I would accept).
DP you really need to give me a pro-town reason I can accept for why you are so obsessed with the night kills.
The reason why this is a big issue for me is because I am the vigilante - and both of the night kills have been my doing.
This may seem like quite an unbelievable claim considering we've had one death per night but it's still the truth.
First things first:
1) Being the Vigilante does not mess up the mafia's kills. (redirects, whatever)
There's another PR or a cross-kill, AND if there was a cross-kill, then, according to Concerned's perspective, there would be no need for DP to freak out. "Cross-kill is not a possibility". Hence, according to Concerned, there's a PR who's messing up the kills other than himself. Which means,
the second quote does not make sense according to supposed Concerned's honest perspective. There is NO NEED for him to out himself, as his kills don't affect the mafia kills.
Yet he does out himself and he has two votes on him.
These are Concerned's most important posts, but in fact, almost all of his posts have either something off or rub me wrong, which is very bad.
Concerned's Theories at this point:
a) This one is quite easy. Occam's razor at work here. Assume this a 3-scum game and Concerned is with Butterfly and now Millar, which obviously isn't doing much, so he had to carry out the kill by himself. A safe kill would be in order, so scummy players would be good targets. This also sets a good ground for a fake claim.
b) Concerned is the SK. Pretty obvious, a vig fakeclaim when you're SK is pretty good; also look at his
claim post and
flavour-claim post. Read it like if he's the SK. No mention to SK possibility, "this is the first time playing as Vig", "
playing PRO-TOWN instead of pro-self
", and his flavour curiously ends with "You enjoyed life until...".
I have to think about what Zach said. I'm not sure if not-lynching the claimed vig is the way to go, but I'm up to be convinced.
Feels like I've been here before.
