Last Will Mafia II (Over)

[Pittbunny]

It might be; when you compare several wagons, quotes, case points, etc. Picking one wagon and making a safe statement is not Wagon Analysis.

[Diacria]

I don't like quotes and cases.
One wagon is also enough.
And it works.

[Diacria]

I mean that quotes and cases are sometimes not really necessary at all.

[Magua]

It might be; when you compare several wagons, quotes, case points, etc. Picking one wagon and making a safe statement is not Wagon Analysis.

You agree that there are scum on the raider wagon.

You are on the raider wagon, so I am going to surmise that you think that raider is scum. (Feel free to disagree on this point.)

So whom else on the wagon do you believe is bussing?

[Pittbunny]

I mean that quotes and cases are sometimes not really necessary at all.

When you have other evidence to carry weight. Otherwise, your statement is akin to saying "One person in six is related to Genghis Khan" and then showing six people and saying "We've got a descendant in there." Well yes, probably, but we're not all the better for being told that fact. You still hadn't whittled down just which person might be scum, and your statement doesn't tell much about the other 17 or so players. Hence why it's null to state that.

I agree that in a wagon that large, it's not unlikely to find scum. I think raider is scum, and have for quite a few pages. My choice for busser would be Rhinox, assuming only one scum.

[Nachomamma8]

Hey, Pittbunny.

You like gambling?

[Pittbunny]

No, but I do like understanding gambling methodologies. One of those "Wanna understand something I naturally suck at even though I'll keep sucking at it" kind of deals.

[Kmd4390]

Ok, starting with Page 14, let's see how far I can get. Didn't think I'd be this busy for this long as soon as I got back from my V/LA.

I've tunneled hopelessly as town, and as KMD can attest (you damn lover) scum can tunnel too. If it wasn't for KMD I'd say it's more of a town tell. So now I tell people to stop tunneling to see how they respond, ask them about another player, or something but I tend to ignore most of the points if it looks like somebody is tunneling.

Heh, didn't really tunnel on Percy that game. I actually "connected" him and my scumbuddy then switched to getting my buddy lynched to use it against Percy and used my town read on my lover to get the other pair lynched. But yeah, I get the logic here. Town tunneling and scum tunneling both happen.

I have not bothered to attempt to get real reads on people. With a game this large I like to wait for a while first to get a feel of how the players are posting.

This sounds like something you would have said in that Newbie game we played ages ago where I nailed scum-you and got you lynched Day 1.

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Ok, I'm too lazy right now. Page 16 and the rest when I feel like it.

[raider8169]

Ahh, stupid busy week/weekend taking up all my time. Nevermind that question...

New question: Are you essentially calling twomz/Richard active lurkers? (for the "slots that haven't done anything this game"). Why no vote on either of them?

I hear ya on the week. Its just been bad and the next few weeks for me are not going to get better.

I am not calling them active lurkers. Those ones will be another post when I have time. I was saving my vote for then.

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

With deadline looming (July 14th, 2010), I think it's time to find some solid conclusions now. For example, who are your top three suspects?

I want to lynch either Shattered Viewpoint, CSL, or RichardGHP. I'm still slightly suspicious of raider8169 due to his earlier play, but his recent play has been pro-town, so

unvote

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Basically, I agree with the cases from my top three suspects, but I think Shattered Viewpoint is the best choice for a lynch.

Vote: Shattered Viewpoint

[Amished]

@SSBF: Which part of the cases do you agree with, specifically?

[Charlie]

I'd be willing to lynch Shattered Viewpoint based on policy (the dictator policy). Also, SSBF. These two are okay lynches.

[EGL]

I'd be willing to lynch Shattered Viewpoint based on policy (the dictator policy). Also, SSBF. These two are okay lynches.

Why?

[Charlie]

Coz then I'll get to dictate things.

[Xite91]

Honestly, I would like a lynch on Richard, like I've been saying.
The policy wagon on SV is eh
IMO, until proven otherwise everyone in here is scum to me. I keep seeing connections where if X is scum then Y is scum and Z is definitely not. Or some other random letter ramblings. Richard at this point would help make those connections a little clearer/better.

[RichardGHP]

What connections would my flip make clearer?

If I flip town, who is scum? What about if I flip scum?

[Xite91]

Considering that it goes a bit deeper than that, I'm just saying that you would be a grrrrr-eat lynch for today, mostly cuz you seem really scummy but also cuz of the info I would get from it.
Other than that I'd say I like Twomz or charlie for a lynch, pretty much for the same reason

[RichardGHP]

What info would you get from it?

[Xite91]

remember the whole abc thing I posted earlier? Linking things like that DOES count as info

[RichardGHP]

...

Don't avoid the question again. Or else.

[Xite91]

waitwaitwait
or else what?
half tempted to avoid the question again P
Even though I'm not sure how I could be more thorough with my answer

You asked what info
my info was different links I can only kind of make sense of right now.
Depending on your flip, those will be a bit clearer.
When they are, I will show them, otherwise they're useless at this point because they will be ignored

[RichardGHP]

What I wanted to know was, if I flip town, who do you think is likely to be scum. Same question again, but assuming a scum flip.

You did kind of answer the question though so I don't have to act on my threat. Yet.

[Xite91]

ooh but i wanna know what u were planning to do
That does interest me now

[The King of Eggs]

Hi, I'm sorry for my total lack of posts. Unexpected vacation issues. I will be more active as of tomorow. Sorry if thishas inconvinienced any1.

[Twomz]

@ Xite: I understand, although I disagree. Hopefully I will prove myself useful and nonscummy to the town at some later point in town. And if you turn out scum and are messing with me... I WILL find you out and I WILL kill you.

<3 Twomz