Supernatural mafia - Mafia team wins!!!!!

[ReaperCharlie]

Oh sh*t I didn't realize you and Fate were tight

CAPS LAWK ALLIANCE FTL

[MagnaofIllusion]

Oh sh*t I didn't realize you and Fate were tight

We aren't. That doesn't preclude me from using that obnoxius style if necessary.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Also for reasons that I can't discuss due to MS standards -

MORE VOTES ON KAGE / HIS REPLACEMENT PLEASE.

[Nero Cain]

The following people need to really start contributing to the game and scum-hunting -

Nero Cain

I've already stated that I think Benmage has been the scummiest thus far. However, I am willing to post a wall of text w/ quotes so let me get on that.

[Robocopter87]

Alright, sorry people but I'm going to have to

request replacement

I don't normally replace out like this but I don't feel I'm contributing much and that this is my style. Also, I have a lot on my plate right now. I don't think I can handle this game. Sorry.

[Robocopter87]

oh,

@Mod, request Replacement

[ReaperCharlie]

Well that takes care of the RC problem.

*flexes*

[Benmage]

'oooh look!!! reaper is mass-chainsaw-defending kagelord! they are scum together! lynchwagon gogogogo!'

Thats why my vote is on Benmage.

Wait what?.

The following people need to really start contributing to the game and scum-hunting -

Nero Cain

I've already stated that I think Benmage has been the scummiest thus far. However, I am willing to post a wall of text w/ quotes so let me get on that.

Nero, you've failed to state why...so yes, lets see a wall.

[ReaperCharlie]

The magna v sawyer thing reads town v town to me...I'd like to hear some of the deserters comment on it. I can drop some further content too.

Please do. Calling anything town-v-town this early in the day in a large game definitely warrants some attention, and possibly some stiff suspicion.

I don't know if you ever caught this. This was indirectly a question. Please provide 'further content'.

[Benmage]

The magna v sawyer thing reads town v town to me...I'd like to hear some of the deserters comment on it. I can drop some further content too.

Please do. Calling anything town-v-town this early in the day in a large game definitely warrants some attention, and possibly some stiff suspicion.

I don't know if you ever caught this. This was indirectly a question. Please provide 'further content'.

Uhhhh......I did.....

:

Oh well wanted to see different-ing opinions first, but who knows when that'll happen.

I’ve been readin Magna as town for a good portion of this game.

Post 213 when Sawyer comes in, he comes in with content and attacks Magna’s views on Kage. It reads some what nitpicky, but at least he isn’t fence-sitting or coat-tailing. While I don’t agree with the context of post 213 I got town vibes when reading it.

Magna responds in post 215…I don’t see how you can read posts like 215, and 200 and not think of Magna at this stage as town.

I also like post 218 of Sawyers in his counter to jmj whose FoS I disliked. I don’t like FoS’s…lets just vote.

Post 217 from Sawyer reads like hes grasping at straws(mountains out of hills) that aren’t there. He says Magna tried making Kage look worse than he really was. Magna was at least doing something when there was little to go on. That’s town…its scum who piddle around trying not to step on eggshells. Town has to be aggressive and attack.This is pretty much my biggest read on the two. I'm a bias LAL at heart...and clearly desire more content from many people in this game. But when I see early wanna-be cases and discussion/heavy content, it reads town.

And the “pro-town” semantics thing is bleh. Semantics….subjective.

Now, I don’t like Sorrow’s weaksauce vote, and would like more substance than “telling town what to do” vote. Shitttt I’ma tell everyone what to do. Like following tubby's lead.

What I am suspicious of at this point is why anyone is more interested in going for a lynch on kagelord than anything else, because interest in the setup is definitely to be expected from newbies in large games. it's not meta, it's common sense. pull your collective head out of your collective arse and you'll see it too.

I have to agree here, I headdesked because its just toooo easy...toooo novice of a mistake.

'oooh look!!! reaper is mass-chainsaw-defending kagelord! they are scum together! lynchwagon gogogogo!'

Thats why my vote is on Benmage.

Wait what?.

[Sawyer]

@GHroupThink:

I can't make any solid reads.

It's been 15 pages, so you must have some kind of reads on at least a few players. Most, if not all, of your posts have been non game relevant posts, so what are you waiting for to make a serious post?

Posting a fair amount != scumhunting. Your point?

I didn't say it meant he was scumhunting. I meant Kage was doing the same thing before as he was after he was attacked, so there was no reason to bring it up.

Kage's following post fail to convince me otherwise of changing my vote. In fact, make me think he's scummier.

Unvote
Vote: Snow_Bunny

*facepalm*

Uh?

Goods news, MS posted that, not Kage. What do you think of it now?

I don’t know … because a common tactic for scum when under fire in a large game is to fade into the background and let someone else make a stupid play and draw fire?

Kage made a steady stream of posts, making at least one a day (often more), before and after being attacked. He did not "fade into the background". And it's hard to do that when only about half the people in the game are participating.

Yes it is role-fishing. We aren’t going to agree on this so stop trying to paint your opinion as inherently more valid than mine.

It doesn't come down to opinion. He was either role fishing or he wasn't. I will openly admit to being curious about which roles to mod chose to include. Does that put me on your list of suspects?

Please explain what in the hell you mean by the bolded portion.

I mean I don't think your reasons for a vote now will be very strong later in the game when there's more to work with.

What happened with the love to the Kage wagon? Sometimes obv scum is obv scum (though, it would be best if I fully read the game... ¬_¬. Meh, I'm too tired to read anything now, so that will have to wait.)

Yeah, it would be best if you read the whole game. That way you could give us your thoughts on someone other than Kage.

[Nero Cain]

Is generichyrda also a hyrda accnt?

Yeah, we are. The fact that both hydras have "hydra" in their names should clarify things.

And your 2 main accounts are?

Asking a question isn't necessarily scummy but just go with it...

Is generichyrda also a hyrda accnt?

Yeah, we are. The fact that both hydras have "hydra" in their names should clarify things.

And your 2 main accounts are?

Putting the 2 main accounts in your sig would be most helpful.

follow up pressure?

That's rather odd imho.

Speaking for the other head: I would prefer not to say who we are. There is no real point to do so.

There are reasons...I see no reason to be obstinate on such a minor issue.

You two again.

Most of us would like them to state who they are and put it in their signature, which is not an abnormal request.

And they are refusing.

According to you, two is most of us.

How does me using a normal mechanic of this site (having forgotten that farside wanted us to use Hunt instead of Vote) make me scummy?

I honestly don't care who they are

, but I think their response to Benmage is rather shady.

Yet you wanted them to put it in their sig. Lie much?

Speaking for the other head: I would prefer not to say who we are. There is no real point to do so.

Why don't you tell us why you don't want us to know who you are. I personally don't care who you are, but I am interested to know about why you don't want us to know.

This just seems like more pressure.

Do you think that all RVS votes have no worth to the rest of the game and are, in effect, pointless?

No, I just meant that it wasn't critical or anything. I had no reason to vote MS other RVS reasons, so seeing my vote miscounted doesn't seem like something to make a big deal about, that's all I was saying.

I think the hydras should have to disclose their account names as a rule

, but if no such rule exists *shrug*. I don't rely on meta very much, so it doesn't seem like that big a deal to me.

The mod said she was fine with hydras and she never made GH or Hydraks announce their accounts, Hydraks offered on his own good will.

awww.

Someone asked me about hydra's. I don't mind if people want to have a hydra account for this game.

Well lets start lynching this pain in the ass.

unhunt hunt: Generichydra

Obstinate players are anti-town and more often than not, scum. Pulling teeth for easy things is not something I enjoy...next I'll be struggling for rationale with a vote.....no, no, no lets string "th

em"

up now.

Yay!!! Lets start a bandwagon 'cause he's a "pain in the ass".

Though I do agree with obstinate players likely being scum I don't think that him being obstinate about something he doesn't have to tell us about is a scum tell. If you were to ask me my SSN or something that I don't want to tell you, I'm not gonna tell you.

I want to know your role. Are you gonna tell me?

(and no its not role fishing, I'm only trying to prove a point.)

Yes, they are both hydras.

Only Hydrak told us who they were in the sign up thread.

more pressure.

GenericHydra still has to explain why they're withholding their identities.

And why does it really matter who's behind Genarichydra??

Even without knowledge of why I'd want this information....shit say for meta reasons, or anything you want....there is zero reason to be difficult in this request.

I think this is quite true, but the original premise for your vote (obstinacy is scummy) seemed weak. Initially, it seemed like you were more interested in attacking the annoying rather than scummy player. For this you seem mildly scummier.

Unhunt

I didn't quite understand Midnight Sorrow's vote. You seemed to defend Generic but then... voted Benmage? What did Benmage do that

you

found so scummy?

This sounded kinda like you were defending Mage, the kinda condemned him and then put more pressure on GH to reveal his accounts. Good fence walking.

Sorrow,

I don't think meta alone is fantastic, but I'd at least like the option to do so... what actually bothered me and warranted my vote was that I too could not think of a reason as to why not..and difficult behavior for simple requests is something I want to avoid altogether as a whole.

Here's an all too often example of where my peeve comes in:

Someone votes player A, saying something like buddied, scumslip, agrees with others statements, or some piggybacking nonsense...Then I come in and as for facts...I usually get resistance followed by responses like its in isos, its all there, go read it your self..some more nonsense...when I finally pull enough strings they usually come to the realization that they have no clue why they are voting...sometimes an epiphany occurs and the player becomes a better player learning how to formulate a case...or I catch some piggybacking scum... Either way I hate doing it, its a waste of time and if I can avoid a precedent of being obstinate forming I will do so.

As town we generally don't have a lot at our disposal. Information is our greatest tool and we'll need as much as possible. Resistance in this arena is scummy.

And Reaper can be Reaper now...but you'll have to be robo or copter...cause you as RC will confuse me.

Meta helps the scum as well. If he says something scummy then fine but you don't need meta and I really don't understand why you are pushing so hard.

As town we generally don't have a lot at our disposal. Information is our greatest tool and we'll need as much as possible. Resistance in this arena is scummy.

This is actually a really great point. This information could be useful to the town, so they should provide it.

OH!!! I've seen this before. Scum agree with each other to make it look like the town is in agreement.

Please, the game is difficult enough because of sheer volume and short deadlines; don't bring up the hydra identity issue again, ReaperCharlie & Benmage.

The game, for a large game is crawling...You know what would end everything...your identities, so don't give me any crap. Your the one withholding information. I've dropped the topic till people rehash it.

Holy snork!!!

The magna v sawyer thing reads town v town to me...I'd like to hear some of the deserters comment on it. I can drop some further content too.

Please do. Calling anything town-v-town this early in the day in a large game definitely warrants some attention, and possibly some stiff suspicion.

I don't know if you ever caught this. This was indirectly a question. Please provide 'further content'.

Uhhhh......I did.....

:

Oh well wanted to see different-ing opinions first, but who knows when that'll happen.

I’ve been readin Magna as town for a good portion of this game.

Post 213 when Sawyer comes in, he comes in with content and attacks Magna’s views on Kage. It reads some what nitpicky, but at least he isn’t fence-sitting or coat-tailing. While I don’t agree with the context of post 213 I got town vibes when reading it.

Magna responds in post 215…I don’t see how you can read posts like 215, and 200 and not think of Magna at this stage as town.

I also like post 218 of Sawyers in his counter to jmj whose FoS I disliked. I don’t like FoS’s…lets just vote.

Post 217 from Sawyer reads like hes grasping at straws(mountains out of hills) that aren’t there. He says Magna tried making Kage look worse than he really was. Magna was at least doing something when there was little to go on. That’s town…its scum who piddle around trying not to step on eggshells. Town has to be aggressive and attack.This is pretty much my biggest read on the two. I'm a bias LAL at heart...and clearly desire more content from many people in this game. But when I see early wanna-be cases and discussion/heavy content, it reads town.

And the “pro-town” semantics thing is bleh. Semantics….subjective.

Now, I don’t like Sorrow’s weaksauce vote, and would like more substance than “telling town what to do” vote. Shitttt I’ma tell everyone what to do. Like following tubby's lead.

What I am suspicious of at this point is why anyone is more interested in going for a lynch on kagelord than anything else, because interest in the setup is definitely to be expected from newbies in large games. it's not meta, it's common sense. pull your collective head out of your collective arse and you'll see it too.

I have to agree here, I headdesked because its just toooo easy...toooo novice of a mistake.

'oooh look!!! reaper is mass-chainsaw-defending kagelord! they are scum together! lynchwagon gogogogo!'

Thats why my vote is on Benmage.

Wait what?.

The "oooh look!!! reaper is mass-chainsaw-defending kagelord! they are scum together! lynchwagon gogogogo!' was a joke.

but in effect I was agreeing with Kagelord, who in one of his posts said that he he was concerned over you pushing the GH.

Also you said that I haven;t told you why I was voting you, wich is a lie.

I'm just really confused. GenericHydra is two players playing on one account?

Hunt: Benmage

While I'm confused as hell over the GH situation there's nothing in the rules about him having to disclose any information.

But I don't like Benmage using this as trying to get a bandwagon going

.

And I KNOW you saw it 'cause you posted right after me.

Benmage,Starbuck, hydraks and lynchmepls are the ones I'd like to look at. I doubt they are all scum but I'd like to investigate that area.

[Nero Cain]

hunt: chronopie

if benmage is in on its good enough for me

ok new tubby rule.

Tubby rule #347 when present with a hydra lynch on site.

unhunt: chronpie, hunt:GenericHydra

wow that is like 15 min of my life i will never get back. thanks for nothing

its sinple competeing wagons on the hydra's is win, to leave them alone and do nothing is fail.

thats funny, you want content from me?? yah not happening just be pleased i am posting on a regular basis lol

And Mage called GH obstinate.

Thats funny, your active lurking on a regular basis.

have you ever played a game with me?

or rather Tried to play a game with me?

Its how I roll.

unhunt: hunt: reapercharlie

I do not like your tone Sir. That and the squeekiest wheel gets the grease so there you go.

This guy seems like he's posting just to not get prodded and stay off the radar.

[tubby216]

hunt: chronopie

if benmage is in on its good enough for me

ok new tubby rule.

Tubby rule #347 when present with a hydra lynch on site.

unhunt: chronpie, hunt:GenericHydra

wow that is like 15 min of my life i will never get back. thanks for nothing

its sinple competeing wagons on the hydra's is win, to leave them alone and do nothing is fail.

thats funny, you want content from me?? yah not happening just be pleased i am posting on a regular basis lol

And Mage called GH obstinate.

Thats funny, your active lurking on a regular basis.

have you ever played a game with me?

or rather Tried to play a game with me?

Its how I roll.

unhunt: hunt: reapercharlie

I do not like your tone Sir. That and the squeekiest wheel gets the grease so there you go.

This guy seems like he's posting just to not get prodded and stay off the radar.

nope this guy is 133t like a mofo. like so good i got Kicked out MIT for pwning the joint.

[Benmage]

Was that really your wall, or supposed case?

I want to know your role. Are you gonna tell me?

(and no its not role fishing, I'm only trying to prove a point.)

If we were all claiming, and GH decided to be the sole person not to...that would be a better example of whats going on. We all have our information available...except him.

I'm just really confused. GenericHydra is two players playing on one account?

Hunt: Benmage

While I'm confused as hell over the GH situation there's nothing in the rules about him having to disclose any information.

But I don't like Benmage using this as trying to get a bandwagon going

.

And I KNOW you saw it 'cause you posted right after me.

This is seriously your only point??? Nothing else?? You have no other strikes against me, save drawing similar ideas with other people in this game as scum connections. (News Flash if you meta'd me you know I bus...or certaintly don't make obvious love connections with scum partners...come on thats a 101 newb mistake) This is the most pathetic vote ever. You need to wagon to lynch someone, it isn't one vote. Unless you start dropping some further strikes against me I can guarantee I will not hang.

Go try that case making/wall thing again.

[Benmage]

Post against tubby is ironically a stronger case than the one presented on me.

[tubby216]

Post against tubby is ironically a stronger case than the one presented on me.

if by stronger you mean full of fail the you sir would be correct!!!

[Midnight's Sorrow]

If by full of fail because no one is lynching blatant lurker TL, then you are correcta!

[tubby216]

If by full of fail because no one is lynching blatant lurker TL, then you are correcta!

nope i is helpin.

[farside22]

Ed: Okay, we've got an obligation to our fans, to the truth...
Dean: Well I have an obligation to kick both of your little asses.
Sam: Dean, Dean, hey, hey, just forget it, alright. These guys... I could probably b*tchslap them both.

hunting down:

KageLord (5) molestargazer, MagnaofIllusion, jmj3000, Snow_Bunny, Chronopie
Midnight's Sorrow (1) TheLonging
ReaperCharlie (3) KageLord, LynchMePls, tubby216
Hydrak (1) BlazezRb
GenericHydra (1) Benmage
Magna (2) Untrod Tripod, Sawyer
Robocopter (1) animorpherv1
Benmage (1) Nero Cain
BlazeRb (1) GenericHydra
TheLonging (2) Midnight's Sorrow, Robocopter87
animpherv1 (1) willows_weep
Starbuck (1) ReaperCharlie
willows_weep(1) GroupThink

Not hunting:

Hydrak
Lowell
Starbuck


With 24 alive it will take 13 to lynch.
Deadline is July 19th, 12:00pm PST

Searching for 2 replacements now.

[Nero Cain]

KageLord (4) molestargazer, MagnaofIllusion, jmj3000, Snow_Bunny, Chronopie
[/b]

4 goes into...*scratches head*

Is that a mistake Haylen?

[Chronopie]

@Mod: The VC needs correcting, should read 5

KageLord (4) molestargazer, MagnaofIllusion, jmj3000, Snow_Bunny, Chronopie

[Chronopie]

4 goes into...*scratches head*

Is that a mistake Haylen?

Wait, What? Farside's mod Nero.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

@Mod

I'm surprised you arn't looking for a replacement for TheLonging as well. Not that I want add to any workload there just saying...

[ReaperCharlie]

Uh, Kagelord just replaced INTO another game I'm in.

WTF