Mini 988 - Small Town Mafia GAME OVER

[DavidParker]

doctomination it seems

[Concerned]

Thanks for the game everyone (mod included) was fun.

May have been a slightly OP'ed set-up for town, but that certainly wasn't helped by butterfly giving himself away so easily.

In the end I did an ISO on every single person before I decided my night kill and it was between exilon and SSBF (I was going to leave DP until I had seen the flavour of the kills) and I thought if exilon was town, scum would try and kill him in the hopes of another cross kill and even greater confusion.

I thought SSBF was a good option to avoid the cross-kill since I had earlier said that my read was "leaning town" (a read I changed after I had read through everything).

[Concerned]

It's a pity the scum didn't even use their NK though...

[Concerned]

Unless they tried to kill zach both nights lol.

[DavidParker]

Unless they tried to kill zach both nights lol.

my guess

[Cuetlachtli]

gg

I am glad Millar didn't affect the end result.

[Exilon]

Oh nice one Concerned. I was still thinking in general your argument was pretty flawed and the claim seemed like a bad one, but apparently I was wrong. Despite that, I STILL don't get why I was a likely scum. Really, I posted a decent post where I stated the only things I saw sop far that made me scummy, which weren't much, no one answers, and I still get to be killed? It kinda ticks me off <<

Yeah, overpowered for town is pretty true O_o. There wasn't even a SK?
thanks everyone!

[Concerned]

Pretty much the entirety of why I thought you might be scum - Zach said so.

Nuff said .

[Zachrulez]

Pretty much the entirety of why I thought you might be scum - Zach said so.

Nuff said .

lol, awesome.

[DavidParker]

honestly, going into the last day, the only person who seemed blatantly scummy to me was SSBF (the other possible scum slot was probably mine).. it just didnt add up, which is why ppl started reaching on ppl who seemed townish.. that's why i had to keep stating how one of my many town reads is probably scum.

turns out.. nope.

[Zachrulez]

honestly, going into the last day, the only person who seemed blatantly scummy to me was SSBF (the other possible scum slot was probably mine).. it just didnt add up, which is why ppl started reaching on ppl who seemed townish.. that's why i had to keep stating how one of my many town reads is probably scum.

turns out.. nope.

Millar actually saved you that last day. I was probably going to go back to your lynch with Concerned's claim.

It was a good thing we didn't lynch him either, cause I had a town read on SSBF.

[DavidParker]

well i only had a scum read on him by process of elimination.. butterfly was too dumb to send us in the wrong direction

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

This was a pretty fun game overall. To be honest, I was pretty surprised that I was Night Killed Night 3. I have some thoughts about the game:

I knew The Butterfly was going to play horribly. So I decided to try to bus him without anyone knowing. Defending him would be futile and would have made my alignment more obvious, so I decided that he needed to die and I felt I could do better on my own. Glad he was lynched Day 1 before more damage occured. However, his death I felt really did help me out Day 2.

Day 2, I decided to push for Nachomamma8 to make a false connection between him and The Butterfly. It worked beautifully. Day 3, I basically followed the crowd.

Millar13 needs to change his posting style. He played horribly here and needs some suspension. Prehaps he'll correct his behavior later on.

Now the Night Actions. I decided to kill DavidParker Night 1 and 0x1de Night 2 because I wanted to do something new with Night Kills and put people in a situation where everyone has a town read on each other. This could be used to waste time for the town and gain less information overall. Night 3, with Concerned's claim Day 3, I wanted to kill someone who had minor suspicion on me and acted towny. I also wanted to see if I could make Concerned look scummy as hell Day 4 and get him lynched. And Day 5, I would have pushed for a DavidParker's lynch. Turns out Concerned wasn't lying about his claim.

As for my performance, I think I did great. I was surprised at how well I managed to avoid suspicion and that I received no major push for a lynch. I even thought I could pull off an unlikely win. If anything, At least I didn't self-hammer. This is my first game as scum and I did horribly. Luckily, I can say I have much improved my scum game with this one. With this game, I am also eligable to be an IC, but I'll put that off until I get better at Mafia and actually make some quality play here.

With that said, I have other games I need to get to.

[millar13]

so i do win....ha

SELF-HAMMER KING!

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

so i do win....ha

SELF-HAMMER KING!

1. You did not self-hammer. You did self-vote, thus putting you at L-1, but you didn't self-hammer.

2. Out of all the townies, you are the only one that didn't deserve to win. You did absolutely nothing for the town and to me, that's worthy of getting your ass mod-killed. Why lobstermania didn't do it, I'd like to know.

[lobstermania]

I will post all the night actions (just for posterity), a link to the scum quicktopic and my thoughts overall on the game tomorrow. Thank you all for playing!!

[DavidParker]

thanks for modding

[0x1de]

Yeah, thanks lobster for doing the mod thing. And thanks to everyone else for playing (except Millar, of course).

Well done Concerned.

Smash, I think you did pretty well against the odds.

[DavidParker]

well, i think going after those scummy players doesnt really help.. i mean you are left with pro town players and ppl just have to use process of elimination to find the least pro-town player. to me that was you, although some though it was exilon etc.

if you had just gone after pro-town players i think woulda been easier to orchestrate more mislynches.. although as it turned out there was a mislynch every day (after butterfly's day 1 lync0, so i guess from that pov you did play it perfectly, except missing out on the 2 night kills on first 2 nights.

[lobstermania]

This was my second game modding. And, overall, I think it went pretty well. My biggest frustration was the replacements. I really apologize for how long that took. And I was very unimpressed with Millar13's attitude, even before he replaced in. This may be in bad taste, but when he emailed about replacing in

want in...but would rather i had some sort of role rather than shiity VT Lol

So, I should have taken that as a dealbreaker. Sorry.
But, in light of those events I would like to thank everyone for playing! I learned a lot, and it was much easier than my last game.

Night Actions

:

N1:
jasonT1981 protected Zachrulez
Super Smash Bros. Fan killed DavidParker
Concerned vig-ed DavidParker

N2:
jasonT1981 protected Zachrulez
Super Smash Bros. Fan killed 0x1de
Concerned vig-ed 0x1de

N3:
jasonT1981 protected Concerned
Super Smash Bros. Fan killed Cuetlacthli
Concerened vig-ed Super Smash Bros. Fan

The Night Actions were one of my favorite parts of this game! The reason the game seemed a little unbalanced towards the town is because I was counting on a few mis-kills by the vig. However, Super Smash Bros. Fan figured out what could have been an almost perfect strategy (which he documented quite well http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/2PG9SEmaEvL39.

Congratulations to Exilon, Zachrulez, jasonT1981, DavidParker2.0, foobert, Antonio, Concerned, Cuetlachtli, 0x1de, Nachomamma8 and DavidParker!!

[0x1de]

DavidParker wins twice!

Honestly, who wants to join a game on page eleventy-nine? Millar was better than nothing. Just.

[Exilon]

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OMG THEY WERE CROSS KILLS
xD

[millar13]

Win is a win!

Saved u from wasting a night kill!

[Exilon]

I forgot to add: that'd be a good strategy SSBF, only that you left the vig alive and by making everyone have town reads, you left yourself wide open. In fact, if you had killed some other players instead, leaving the suspicious ones, you could have left them for town to kill. by killing them yourself, you're losing your right to destroy the most dangerous players to you.

[Zachrulez]

I can see the theory going about it either way. If you kill off the townie people, suspicion might eventually lead to you. If you kill scummy players, you can theoretically confuse the town. I think that's what he was going for.