Open 231: My Name is Earl (Game Over)

[nocase]

god. no. it's not blurry. not inherently, anyway. gtfo, son.

[nocase]

unvote. vote: xscorpion.

he's a slippery guy.

need more content from budja. don't make me fos you, budja.

[XScorpion]

I'd ask for an explanation other than 'he's a slippery guy,' but that feels like a waste of my time.

[nocase]

damn, you're quick. you lurker, you! *pinches cheek*

[nocase]

please write back.

[nocase]

yup, that's right, scuttle back into your lurker cave.

[XScorpion]

Yes, I'm obviously lurking in this game </sarcasm>.

On the subject of lurking, Xite, get your ass back in here.

[Budja]

Oi nocase, I've been giving content.
You want more, ask for specifics.

Reads haven't changed.

re. Anti-town, scummy, depends on your definition. Generally I consider them to be separate. One has good intentions, the other hasn't.

[XScorpion]

There is no way we can be sure of Xite's intentions short of him dying or a cop finding him guilty.

[nocase]

the "xite is kamikaze scum" theory is dumb.

xscorpion, what are your trying to do at this stage of day one?

[XScorpion]

Win the game. Aren't you?

[nocase]

be more specific.

[XScorpion]

Lynch scum. Aren't you?

[nocase]

this is what you call scum hunting?

[XScorpion]

I could ask you the same question.

[Adrien C]

My vote on Budja isn't looking so hot anymore, though there's no real content to clear him yet.
UNVOTE: Buja

I'm looking towards XScorpion and Beefster, but not sure which yet.

[Col.Cathart]

Reporting V/LA from now up until 16th July in the evening.

I need to finish some paperwork stuff with changing studies, prepare a birthday party, have a birthday party and then get rid of the hangover after birthday party

I'll leave my vote on Beefster for now, as he still don't have any single post I could look at and say 'that's a post that a townie makes', and he already has a nice wagon, it would be stupid to ruin it.

[XScorpion]

@AdrienC: You are convinced Xite is town because...?

[Budja]

^ putting words in other people's mouths?

[d3x]

@XS158- AntiTown behavior is something that most likely comes from misguided Townies. Scummy behavior is something that most likely comes from Scum. There's a huge difference and yes, it matters. If it didn't, then why would you directly say a behavior is not one, it is the other. And then when you're called on it, you say it's the same thing and cry 'semantics debate'.

You are RoleFishing Xite because you are allowing for the possibility that {s}he is a Town PR. You are pushing for information that is 'hidden' and you and Budja already had it out over PRs hiding information from the Town. You are trying to force a Claim and that's RoleFishing. Btw, you didn't start by calling the play horrible, you started by trying to out Xite...

Xite is hiding information,

breadcrumbing power role

and rolefishing for Earl.

{

emphasis mine

}

Because it's not my responsibility to defend other people.

If you have a meta read on a player that is well on the path to a MisLynch {and you're fighting to get a counterWagon going}, why would you not say anything? I'm not asking you to defend someone else, but helping the Town to avoid a MisLynch

is

something you're supposed to do... if you're Town.

@Beefy174- It's posts like these that make me sad I UnVoted you in the first place. I'm happy with a Beefy Lynch or with an XS Lynch from this point forward. They're interchangably on top of my ScumList.

Speaking of things that make d3x grumpy...

@Adrien- Are you really talking about someone else not having content? You said that you were going to reread and post your thoughts. Is that it? Also, please go a little more in depth into the following...

My vote on Budja isn't looking so hot anymore

Explain.

[Scott Brosius]

Vote Count #5

Adrien C (0) -
AurorusVox (0) -
Beefster (3) - Budja, Col.Cathart, AurousVox
Budja (2) - Xite91, Beefster
Col.Cathart (0) -
d3x (0) -
nocase (0) -
Xite91 (1) - XScorpion
XScorpion (2) - d3x, nocase

Not Voting (1)- Adrien C

With 9 players alive it takes 5 to lynch.


Deadline is July 30 ~12 pm EDT

[nocase]

I'm looking towards XScorpion and Beefster, but not sure which yet.

scum.

[XScorpion]

You are RoleFishing Xite because you are allowing for the possibility that {s}he is a Town PR. You are pushing for information that is 'hidden' and you and Budja already had it out over PRs hiding information from the Town. You are trying to force a Claim and that's RoleFishing. Btw, you didn't start by calling the play horrible, you started by trying to out Xite...

Are you even reading my arguments anymore? I might as well just quote myself rather than actually argue anything with you.

Guess what, it's possible that anyone is a PR. That's how this game is set up. A first? I already said that I thought when I asked everyone to answer my question of whether you thought Xite was more likely to be a PR or scum. You have yet to answer this, btw.

There's a huge difference and yes, it matters. If it didn't, then why would you directly say a behavior is not one, it is the other. And then when you're called on it, you say it's the same thing and cry 'semantics debate'.

The line between scummy and anti-town is heavily influenced by perception. It's as blurry as my vision after 10 bottles of vodka. If you think you can clearly separate all scummy things from all anti-town things you are either the God of Mafiascum, or simply fooling yourself.

If you have a meta read on a player that is well on the path to a MisLynch {and you're fighting to get a counterWagon going}, why would you not say anything? I'm not asking you to defend someone else, but helping the Town to avoid a MisLynch is something you're supposed to do... if you're Town.

I'm trying to help town avoid a mislynch by telling you to vote Xite. Clearly no one agrees with the things I'm saying though, so why should I bother caring about whether Beefster lives or dies?

[nocase]

xscorpion, what do you think of what i just quoted?

[Xite91]

Hey guys, sorry I hate doing this, but my medication is making it super hard to focus, so I'm replacing out of most of my games.

@Mod. please find me a replacement