Open 231: My Name is Earl (Game Over)

[AurorusVox]

I might be able to get on a little tonight after all.

I'm happy with a Beefy Lynch or with an XS Lynch from this point forward. They're interchangably on top of my ScumList.

^this

XScorpion's most recent post was...well, let's just say, when he said "why should I bother caring about whether Beefster lives or dies", my scum sense was tingling. Town aligned players should care about other town aligned players dying.

[XScorpion]

xscorpion, what do you think of what i just quoted?

I think AdrienC is getting other people to scumhunt for him.

XScorpion's most recent post was...well, let's just say, when he said "why should I bother caring about whether Beefster lives or dies", my scum sense was tingling. Town aligned players should care about other town aligned players dying.

I'm sorry to inform you that I haven't got a chance to investigate Beefster so I don't know if he's scum or not, because you seem to be under the impression that I'm a cop who got to investigate beefster before the day began.

[Beefster]

Adrien C: Your logic for unvoting seems scummy to me. You say Budja can't be cleared, don't have a better lynch candidate, then unvote him. Something's fishy here.

I'm sticking to my Budja vote. I've realized that he's been pretty dodgy around answering questions. He's hiding something.

[XScorpion]

I'm sticking to my Budja vote. I've realized that he's been pretty dodgy around answering questions. He's hiding something.

Are you paying attention? Hiding something isn't scummy anymore, town decided that it's totally ok for people to not tell everything they know because it's the new pro-town thing. Why else would people be voting for me and not Xite?

[AurorusVox]

xscorpion, what do you think of what i just quoted?

I think AdrienC is getting other people to scumhunt for him.

XScorpion's most recent post was...well, let's just say, when he said "why should I bother caring about whether Beefster lives or dies", my scum sense was tingling. Town aligned players should care about other town aligned players dying.

I'm sorry to inform you that I haven't got a chance to investigate Beefster so I don't know if he's scum or not, because you seem to be under the impression that I'm a cop who got to investigate beefster before the day began.

Beefster is one of the operational wagons at the moment. You said to save us from a mislynch, vote Xite. Therefore you imply that the Beefster vote is a mislynch. Therefore I am not under the impression that you believe him to be a townie, since a mislynch is the lynching of a townie. Therefore when you say "I don't care if he lives or dies" it suggests that you don't care if a townie lives or dies. Therefore you are scum.

[AurorusVox]

EBWOP: should have read; "Therefore I am under the impression that you believe him to be a townie, since a mislynch is the lynching of a townie."

The "not" was left in there from when I was going to say that I was not under the impression that you were a cop who got to investigate beefster before the day began.

[XScorpion]

You said to save us from a mislynch, vote Xite.

Because Xite is scum.

Therefore you imply that the Beefster vote is a mislynch.

Putting words in my mouth in here too huh? I never said Beefster was definitely town, nor that he couldn't be scum with Xite.

Therefore I am not under the impression that you believe him to be a townie, since a mislynch is the lynching of a townie.

Correct, I don't believe him to be a townie. I don't have a read on him at all.

Therefore when you say "I don't care if he lives or dies" it suggests that you don't care if a townie lives or dies.

You proved Beefster was town? How?

Therefore you are scum.

I am not, so your logic sucks.

[nocase]

[quote="xscorpion"I think AdrienC is getting other people to scumhunt for him.[/quote]
right, so . . . ? i feel like i'm talking to a tight-lipped robot.

[XScorpion]

right, so . . . ? i feel like i'm talking to a tight-lipped robot.

So he's a lazy bastard. What's your point?

[nocase]

my point - i was hoping your answer would include some stance on what it says about his alignment.

[XScorpion]

I'm sorry, are you asking me to scumhunt for you? Do you have some sort of handicap that prevents you from determining who is scum, or do you think I have some sort of magic scum-finding ability that tells me everyone's alignment?

[nocase]

you're useless.

[XScorpion]

Delicious hypocrisy.

[AurorusVox]

I am not, so your logic sucks.

Try your analysis of my bad logic with the correction I made in the post immediately following the one you quoted.

[XScorpion]

Does it take you that much effort to go like this?

"Therefore I am under the impression that you believe him to be a townie, since a mislynch is the lynching of a townie."

no

There, I did it for you.

[AurorusVox]

You went on to say that I hadn't offered a reason for thinking that I thought you thought that Beefster was town. There is my reason. Do you not think it's a strong one? Do you really have absolutely no read on him? Or is he your scumbuddy and you're just trying to derail his lynching?

[XScorpion]

You seem to forget the part where I said I don't care about beefster, because I don't know what alignment he is, haven't paid attention to him at all in this game, and because I still want Xite to die.
Alright, I'll make you a deal. We can lynch Beefster today, and Xite tomorrow. Is that what you would prefer?

[AurorusVox]

Well since my vote is on Beefster, I'd like to see him lynched. But I'm not going to enter an agreement about who to vote for tomorrow, before I've seen what the rest of the day, flip, night, and next day hold. Did you expect me to agree to that?

Regarding beefster, why haven't you paid attention to him? And I think it's suspect that you'd willingly vote for him if you have no read on him.

[XScorpion]

Under what conditions would you vote for Xite?

I haven't paid attention to him because it's not my job to do all of town's scumhunting by myself, which is what you people seem to be expecting of me.
Suspect how? Didn't you just say that you thought we were scumbuddies? If voting for him means that I can get Xite killed then that's fine, Beefster has the same probability as everyone else of being scum.

[AurorusVox]

I would vote for Xite if I thought he was scum. Why else would I vote for him?

I don't expect you to do all the scumhunting, but you should pay attention to every player. Right?
Suspect as in, why would you vote for someone, if you didn't think that they were scum? (neutral = not thinking they're scum, because you don't think they're anything at the moment)

You seem obsessed with getting Xite lynched. Would you sacrifice yourself to achieve this?

[XScorpion]

Yes.

[AurorusVox]

Yes.

If you're town, that's stupid. You didn't mind getting rid of beefster to get Xite killed because he "has the same probability as everyone else of being scum." But if you're town, then getting rid of you doesn't have that equal chance. It has zero chance. You'd happily deplete the town's numbers by one.

On the other hand, if you're scum, you're peacocking and showing how noble you are for the town's cause. You're hoping we wouldn't take you up on your "brave offer". And if you're so certain that Xite is scum, perhaps you're hoping such a display of confidence will sway us into voting for him instead of you.

Vote: XScorpion

[XScorpion]

Lolk.

[AurorusVox]

You realise even if you were to get lynched and flip town, I still wouldn't vote for Xite unless I felt he was scum?

[XScorpion]

You realized I recently stopped caring about what you think?