Supernatural mafia - Mafia team wins!!!!!

[ReaperCharlie]

i am emailing it to myself at another and i will post it there in about an hour when i get there

[Benmage]

unhunt hunt hyrdak

L-2 Could be a decent slip, still something will need to be done with the lurkers. Claim time?

[ReaperCharlie]

Preview is not working on my computer atm so this might have some broken bbcode.

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I like some of Nero Cain's #361 and agree with #362. I have never played with tubby before but it seems like he's just trying to be obstinate to prove how pro-town-but-doesn't-care-look-at-me-I'm-a-rebel he is.

I

do not like

Benmage's obvious double standard about being totally fine with tubby's beefheadedness but giving Generic Hydra such a hard time.

I was voting Robocopter earlier in the game. I decided to switch it to Animorpher because I felt more of a scummy vibe.

what scummy vibe could you get from animorpher? he's only posted like 3 times.
he feels a lot more like a useless townie to me (which, sadly, is about usual).

Meh, just stating a fact. Those are the 3 people that have been noted by other people.

Ok, your following of the crowd is noted.

hmmmm. ok, now you're at least backing up what you say with your vote, after someone called you out on it.

I do not know what you are referring to: Who called me out on what?

I only really remember Groupthink "calling me out" on anything and that was ridiculous in my opinion. That person voted me, and "called me out" for not immediately dropping my own concerns and consolidating the bandwagon for lurkers. I even just re-read the past 4 pages. I don't see anyone else chatting to me. If I've overlooked it please direct me.

I was talking about me. But it seems like simul-posting was the culprit, neither of us were getting preview edits in before posting, apparently.


I hate, hate, hate LynchMePls' post #388. Just look at it.

Reaper what is this unvote you speak of in post 399?

*looks at #419.. begins to shake head sadly*
*notes the attempt to pad out bandwagon vote with non-game-content*
*gives the Overall Stamp of Disapproval to one Useless Mr. Baaaaa (tubby)*


#424 is gooooooood.

Please stop being an ass

I like the mutual chainsaw defense against 361 goin on... *REV REV*
i.e. benmage and starbuck wanting to know GH's heads so much, people calling them out and saying 'this is useless, just stop' and then them attacking other people for calling them out on it, or at least trying to throw suspicion on their direct 'attackers' for no other reason than that they questioned SB and BM's motives.

other than that though, i like #426 for the most part. especially the last two words. HOORAY!

:looks up one shot day vig:

Even before reading up on that...is it a good idea to role claim that kind of thing D1 when there is no need?
Let me check what this is.

uh. if you want to use it, you use it, and then it doesn't matter if you've claimed it, because you've already used it.

....

what's not to get?

KageLord is now waiting in the wings. His identity is unknown at this time and the day continues.

F&&&&&&CK. THIS.
I am very disappointed by the lack of flip.

benmage 436: more chainsaw defense on starbuck noted.

and just because she's proved she has daykill powers does not make her town.

lynchmepls 446: oh NOW its all cleared up. not.

@ nero cain 450: kage is 'waiting in the wings' i don't know if that's dead or not, but either way it looks like he's removed from play for the moment at least. maybe it's just a similar way of saying he died, i.e. like hunting instead of voting... idk.

also: do you think that the entire mafia faction would have day kill instead of night kill? this seems a bit absurd. if they all claimed one shot like starbuck did, then they'd only get 3 kills total before they were caught lying. also, if somebody claimed a multi-shot but didn't also use it on day 1, they'd be caught there too. i don't really think this line of thinking is productive.

it's much more likely that if starbuck is not town, she's a member of a scum faction who also has a one-shot day kill ability (seen this before), a JOAT with daykill as one of his powers (seen this too), or even maybe some SK or 3rd party role with a day kill.

@ nerocain 451. no idea, never seen the show

@ chronopie's 454: so you're saying you get powers later? or what? you're being pretty confusing and nebulous. if there was a chance for you to get a power later, why would you want to draw a nightkill now? and if there's no chance of you getting any powers later, then why would you put "(atm)" in your post? just for the WIFOM of it? and another thing. why would any scum kill you? you're an excellent mislynch target. AND FOR PETE'S SAKE. way to completely ruin ANY chance you had of being NK'd (i had my fingers crossed) by saying that you're vanilla. so what the h311 are you. you might as well un-bungle your breadcrumb + claim so we can stop worrying about how much of an idiot you are.

chrono #457. no sh1t sherlock.

w_w #461: seriously? you've been here since 2003? /facepalm.
there is no way starbuck is confirmed town. proven ability != proven alignment.

#463 from tubby. so basically you're waiting to sheep again. nice.

#466 is worth its weight in gold. I get such gooood vibes from MoI.

In my first game when I did a similar wall of text quotes I got the same response. They later flipped scum. Jus' sayin'.

I’ll be the first to defend

Walls

myself but the big issue I see is the construction. Condense your quotes as much as possible.

WOOSH!!! That was the sound of the point going over your head. To me a sarcastic responce to musings is NOT a pro-town responce. Who the hell is Walls?

WOOSH!!! That was the sound of what he meant by "Walls" going over your head. Maybe if you read your own post that he responded to, you might have a clue.

#474. he's seen the light. rofl

groupthink #475. i dont really like the disclaimer at the beginning ("i'm not trying to paint you as scum or anything"). why are you worried about what people think about your thoughts about another players' motivations?

Here is Jo's page on the Supernatural Wiki for those who are curious.

She's pretty hot, if I do say so myself.

Y HELO THAR

groupthink's #478 against w_w is actually interesting, a re-read may prove enlightening as to the details. unfortunately i dont have the time for that now.

#479: lurker hunting is often an exercise scum resort to when they don't want to vote their buddies or scumhunt for real. I reallllly dont like how it's become a pattern in this game.

@ mod: i know you're already working on this. but... replacements!! AHHHHHH

...<3

And while I definitely agree with 480 (starbuck), post 482 has some pretty good points about why lynching animorpher could be a very good thing. I am also very keen on lynching animorpher though i'm not sure where i'm gonna vote yet.

#483 (w_w) ... how many games have you played? and you didn't already know that? seriously.

Hunt: Starbuck

For being an idiot. This is obviously her grasping at an opportunity to kill a

town member

with little to no reasoning.

Nice slip.

Hunt: hydrak

However, if this is true, then Sawyer's coaching to Kage seems less scummy.

Can someone explain the case of Ani for me? Just lack of activity? (That's the same case on Tripod, isn't it? Slipped scum > lurker)

bam. Like this post a lot. yeah this tips the tables a little bit, because i agree so much..

Hunt: hydrak

#493. Well, animorpher, that's certainly convenient. half reading, lurking, and then hopping on the biggest wagon shamelessly. you're next in my book.

well i think thats about it for now.

[ReaperCharlie]

Seeing now that benmage put him at L-2, mine's L-1 and I hate L-1 without a chance to claim.

Unhunt

[MagnaofIllusion]

I'm going to offer my voice to say the following -

Hydrak you need to claim. I'm more than willing to hammer you so a claim to prevent a bad lynch would be appreciated.

Also - let it be known that I'm not a huge fan of GenericHydra's "Vote forthcoming" - long delay while others pile on - "Vote: Hydrak"

It screams of fence-sitting while waiting to see how others would react to Hydrak's wagon.

[ReaperCharlie]

I'm going to offer my voice to say the following -

Hydrak you need to claim. I'm more than willing to hammer you so a claim to prevent a bad lynch would be appreciated.

Also - let it be known that I'm not a huge fan of GenericHydra's "Vote forthcoming" - long delay while others pile on - "Vote: Hydrak"

It screams of fence-sitting while waiting to see how others would react to Hydrak's wagon.

+100

[Starbuck]

I'm going to offer my voice to say the following -

Hydrak you need to claim. I'm more than willing to hammer you so a claim to prevent a bad lynch would be appreciated.

Also - let it be known that I'm not a huge fan of GenericHydra's "Vote forthcoming" - long delay while others pile on - "Vote: Hydrak"

It screams of fence-sitting while waiting to see how others would react to Hydrak's wagon.

+100

X infinity

[LimMePls]

FWIW I'm backing off my RC-scum thinking after this wall-o-catchup. This play seems different to me than previous experience I've seen out of scum RC. Perhaps he really was being sarcastic with me earlier.

Anxiously awaiting this hydrak claim.

[hydrak]

Seeing now that benmage put him at L-2, mine's L-1 and I hate L-1 without a chance to claim.

Unhunt

Thank you.

We are a Cult Unrecruiter. This allows us to select an evil player as a night action and they are then made human again and are not harmed.

Our win condition is that we win when all the evil players in the game are eliminated.

If anyone wants a name claim to go with the role, we are Castiel.

[Starbuck]

Unhunt

At least until a counterclaim. Castiel is a huge part of the Supernatural universe.

[Starbuck]

What's your flavor?

[tubby216]

Unhunt

At least until a counterclaim. Castiel is a huge part of the Supernatural universe.

thats why this claim makes little to no sense to me. i mean its a brilliant attempt however i am not buying it.

[hydrak]

What's your flavor?

I saved a Dean from Hell and then stayed here to help counter the evil. I am awesome and can cleanse people effected by evil.

That is the best paraphrase of my flavor that I could figure out.

[MagnaofIllusion]

We are a Cult Unrecruiter. This allows us to select an evil player as a night action and they are then made human again and are not harmed.

Our win condition is that we win when all the evil players in the game are eliminated.

If anyone wants a name claim to go with the role, we are Castiel.

Did you just claim a role that could possible convert a Mafia player to innocent??

Unless this is a purely bastardized game I am having a hard time buying that.

And I'll have to consider how much I buy Castiel for that role.

On its face I don't think that claim looks very good.

[LimMePls]

More likely a cult recruiter. This role sounds extremely unlikely.

@Hydrak: You are saying that there definitely is a cult in this game, and you can undo the recruitment? Does it saying anything about what would happen when a recruited player reverts to town? Would they be stopped from telling us all the members of the cult? If not, wouldn't that be too powerful.

[Starbuck]

Castiel's powers are not to convert the evil to good.

Yes, Dean did go to hell, but he's never been an evil character.

On second thought, now that I am no longer on my iPhone in class

Hunt: Hydrak

[tubby216]

oh yah should have done this in my other post,(darn kids and their neediness)

hunt hydrak

[MagnaofIllusion]

After reviewing Castiel on wikipedia I tend to concur -

UNVOTE: Tripod
VOTE: Hydrak

[tubby216]

After reviewing Castiel on wikipedia I tend to concur -

UNVOTE: Tripod
VOTE: Hydrak

um MI its hunt not vote

[MagnaofIllusion]

Yes, I am epic fail ... using the stupid tools.

I demand a Hunt and Unhunt tool!

Unhunt: Tripod
Hunt: Hydrak

[Nero Cain]

I

do not like

Benmage's obvious double standard about being totally fine with tubby's beefheadedness but giving Generic Hydra such a hard time.

I like the mutual chainsaw defense against 361 goin on... *REV REV*
i.e. benmage and starbuck wanting to know GH's heads so much, people calling them out and saying 'this is useless, just stop' and then them attacking other people for calling them out on it, or at least trying to throw suspicion on their direct 'attackers' for no other reason than that they questioned SB and BM's motives.

uh. if you want to use it, you use it, and then it doesn't matter if you've claimed it, because you've already used it.

and just because she's proved she has daykill powers does not make her town.

Exactly.

[/quote]benmage 436: more chainsaw defense on starbuck noted.[/quote]

do you think that the entire mafia faction would have day kill instead of night kill? this seems a bit absurd. if they all claimed one shot like starbuck did, then they'd only get 3 kills total before they were caught lying. also, if somebody claimed a multi-shot but didn't also use it on day 1, they'd be caught there too. i don't really think this line of thinking is productive.

it's much more likely that if starbuck is not town, she's a member of a scum faction who also has a one-shot day kill ability (seen this before), a JOAT with daykill as one of his powers (seen this too), or even maybe some SK or 3rd party role with a day kill.

I HAVE seen a day killing mafia, all I'm really saying is that its possible and that we shouldn't be like

oh she's confirmed townie now.

However, at this time I have no reason to really doubt her claim. So I'm in complete agreement with part dos.

#466 is worth its weight in gold. I get such gooood vibes from MoI.

In my first game when I did a similar wall of text quotes I got the same response. They later flipped scum. Jus' sayin'.

I’ll be the first to defend

Walls

myself but the big issue I see is the construction. Condense your quotes as much as possible.

WOOSH!!! That was the sound of the point going over your head. To me a sarcastic response to musings is NOT a pro-town response. Who the hell is Walls?

WOOSH!!! That was the sound of what he meant by "Walls" going over your head. Maybe if you read your own post that he responded to, you might have a clue.

I DID misread. I THOUGHT that he was defending Mage. But I was really just responding to this part.

And the reaction of one scum in another game really isn’t relevant to how a different player reacts.

But you left that out why? When there was a BW on Hydraks he was very calm. But when I accused Starbucks and Benmage of being POSSIBLE scum all I got was "ZOMG! You're reaching." I don't think that's the most pro-town of responses. And really? Its just how you play the game, everyone posts their opinions and what not.

#479: lurker hunting is often an exercise scum resort to when they don't want to vote their buddies or scumhunt for real. I reallllly dont like how it's become a pattern in this game.

I wasn't on the Kage wagon and I honestly don't see a difference between Kage and Anim. I WANT these folks replaced. But inactives don't help the town and in fact they hurt us. And after 493 I think their lynch is justified.


Cast is an angel. Who helps Sam and Dean, the main protagonists. THIS is why I asked 451.

@ Starbuck What are your feelings on Mage and Magna?

[Sawyer]

Nice backtrack hydrak.[/sarcasm] But seriously, with the rolefishing KageLord had done, along with his general lack of scumhunting, plus the fact he asked to replace out of this game while joining another, all screamed scum. You and sawyer trying to stop the lynch of him is mightily suspicious. Sawyer's balantant defense of KageLord, plus your lack of scumhunting is not making you look good either. Sawyer just climbed my list of suspects due to this post, then his subsequent posts: post 213 where he states Kage is one of his suspects, but he spends the whole day trying to stop the wagon on Kage. He never offers up any evidence to the contrary about Kage being town, but tries to stop us from lynching him. I would feel comfortable with either a hydrak or sawyer lynch, because I think they both are scum together. as such, I am going to contribute towards the lynch of one of my suspects and

HUNT: hdrak

.

I never tried to stop Kage's lynch. What I did was try to keep people from voting him for the wrong reasons. So you're saying that because I think Kage is suspicous for one reason, that means I should go along with any other reasons as to why he's scummy just because it helps the case against him? Hmmm, interesting. Is that what you would do?

Quite frankly, my job isn't to point out why certain people are town (like you seem to imply it is), it's to point out why certain people might be scum.

I'm curious because I can't quite follow the case against Hydrak, why are you in particular voting Hydrak? Meaning, why do you think he's scum?

[ReaperCharlie]

I have no idea about any of the flavor and frankly, I am kind of far behind in some of my other games so I'm not going to be able to make the effort to go read the wiki or watch the movie (show?) or anything. Honestly, when this game started, I thought it was just a generic themed mafia game about supernatural things/beings/events. It sounded interesting enough, and after all, I am farside's own son, so why not join?

[jmj3000]

Sawyer, you mean besides the fact that he has one of the most unbelievable claims I have ever heard, plus his attempt at defending KageLord before his lynch, made me suspicious of them.

[ReaperCharlie]

The hammer has dropped, btw. Unless there are some shenanigans going on that screw with vote-counts.