Mini 982 - The Mars Volta Mafia(Game Over)

[Incognito]

Good point. My guess is the scum just didn't get their kill in in-time then.

[Netopalis]

If the Mafia didn't get their kill in in-time, wouldn't that imply Zajnet? He's the least active...I think everybody else would have submitted.

[Netopalis]

Actually...It looks like you just both targeted the same person. Not a huge deal.

[Incognito]

Are you reading, Neto?

Here's what I'm talking about:

My Milked Eek, Omar Rodríguez-López (from Real Life), of the White,

unmade

Night 2

Parama, Cassandra Gemini (from Frances the Mute), of the White,

reduced to aether

and

unmade

Night 3

On Night 3, yeah, it seems like we targeted the same person in Parama (even though I DID choose to kill Zajnet instead). But on Night 2, we didn't target the same person since Seraphim said in his death scene that My Milked Eek was

only

"unmade". If the mafia targeted My Milked Eek also, then Seraphim would have said that he was also "reduced to aether". But he didn't say that.

[Doombunny9]

Parama could have been some kind of commuter/doc to protect himself/someone else N2. This still doesn't explain how your kill was redirected to Parama the next night though.

[Netopalis]

Bah, you're right. Sorry, too many contested kills. This game is giving me a headache. Yeah, it sounds like they didn't submit, then, which points to Zajnet.

[Doombunny9]

Bah, you're right. Sorry, too many contested kills. This game is giving me a headache. Yeah, it sounds like they didn't submit, then, which points to Zajnet.

Trying a little hard there to push on Zaj aren't you? Reminds me of two other scum...

Neto seems to be scrambling to get a lynch other than his own. My vote still stands.

@Neto- What makes you think that maf didn't send in their kill? A number of things could have happened such as a doc save.

[Netopalis]

With nobody claimed as a doc?

[Doombunny9]

Well seeing as how Parama never got the chance to claim it's possible he could be a doc/commuter type role as I already said.

[Netopalis]

Meh...That seems like it'd be a really, really overpowered town, though.

[Percy]

Vote Count:

Incognito(0) -

Netopalis(2)

-
Zajnet(0) - Doombunny9
Me=Weird(0) -

Papa Zito(1)

-
Doombunny9(0) - Me=Weird

Not Voting(4) - Incognito, Netopalis, Zajnet, Papa Zito

FoS Count:

Incognito(0) -
Netopalis(0) -
Zajnet(0) –
Me=Weird(0) -

Papa Zito(1)

-
Doombunny9(0) - Doombunny9

Not FoSing(5) - Incognito, Netopalis, Zajnet, Me=Weird, Papa Zito

Deadline: July 26th, 2010 6:00pm CST
With 6 alive, it is 4 to lynch

---Begin transmission---

Hello. You know that mysterious Double Voter you've been looking for? That's me. Unfortunatley, I may not give my name, but I can tell you this. I am one of the past Night Kills. I really feel like doombunny is pushing for the lynch of Netopalis who is pushing for the lynch of Zajnet. Either of them would be fine.

---End transmission---

[Me=Weird]

What I should have done monday due to sickness and hard work:

Mod: V/LA until saturday or sunday.

[Doombunny9]

[quote=""Mysterious person""]Hello. You know that mysterious Double Voter you've been looking for? That's me. Unfortunatley, I may not give my name, but I can tell you this. I am one of the past Night Kills. I really feel like doombunny is pushing for the lynch of Netopalis who is pushing for the lynch of Zajnet. Either of them would be fine.[/quote]

I think we know what Parama is

Anyway, the main reason I am voting Neto is because of process of elimination. Zaj is clear to mr because of his watcher-itude. M=W due to the investigation I sent. Myself for obvious reasons and Papa and Incog match up with each other. Guess who's missing. Really Parama, I already said this XD. The scrambling for a Zaj lynch is just a bonus for the scumminess.

[Netopalis]

I understand the logic. Quite frankly, I'd probably do the same thing myself. I do know that I'm town, though.

That being said, given the fact that Parama was almost certainly the mysterious person, we can rule out a doc. This further bolsters the "Didn't send anything in" theory.

[Incognito]

I understand the case against Netopalis, but I think a major point in his favor is his protecting of Me=Weird Yesterday when the votes were piling up on him. Netopalis-scum could have easily just let a M=W lynch go through and not said anything about the innocent result he got on him. So, like I said Yesterday, the only way I can see Neto as scum right now is if M=W was his buddy. And I doubt we're dealing with a 4-person scum team.

So in my mind that pretty much leaves Zajnet who was "cleared" only because of this Watcher result that we can't even prove. It would be a pretty decent and elaborate gambit, but I would not rule it out entirely especially since SaintKerrigan seemed pretty wishy-washy with respect to who he should vote on Day 2 when Zajnet came out with his result. If the THREE of them were scum together, I could see SaintK trying to figure out which of his two buddies might be getting the axe, and he would have tried to choose accordingly in order to try to get the most town cred that he possibly could.

That said, I still wanna hear from Zajnet, and I'd like to see PZ's reaction to my claim.

Mod:

Prod Zajnet? Thanks.




P.S. Hi, Parama!

[Doombunny9]

Look back to the part where N2 started. Zaj was active on both the day where D2 ended and where D3 started so I doubt that he would just mysteriously dissapear during the night. Also, at the time, SK was alive so he could have easily sent in the NK. My thoughts now are that the mafia had some kind of reason due to their roles to not kill anyone.

[Netopalis]

Look back to the part where N2 started. Zaj was active on both the day where D2 ended and where D3 started so I doubt that he would just mysteriously dissapear during the night. Also, at the time, SK was alive so he could have easily sent in the NK. My thoughts now are that the mafia had some kind of reason due to their roles to not kill anyone.

That is a good point...Hadn't thought about SK still being alive.

[Incognito]

Yeah, Doombunny, that's actually what bugs me about Night 2 also. There *were* at least 2 scums around to submit the kill, so I have no clue why they'd not submit it in time. We can rule out a Doctor save though because

a)

we already had one protective role die (the Sando-Bodyguard on Night 1) and I kinda doubt we had two or more protective roles in this game and

b)

nobody alive Today has claimed a Doc role and we're now feeling pretty confident that Parama was a Double Voter and not some kind of Doc.

So yeah, maybe it was something that needed to purposefully be done by the scums sorta like what I had to do during Night 1. I have no clue what that is but all of that is pretty irrelevant - Zajnet and not Netopalis still feels like the odd man out to me.

[Incognito]

The other possibility that I considered for awhile was maybe I *did* somehow gain NK immunity through my prayer on Night 1, and I thought that maybe I was targeted for an NK. It's still possible but after reading Papa Zito's role description about how he could only save this one person if they're will to be saved, I began to think that was less likely because that led me to believe that was what my prayer was for.

[Incognito]

Triple post! Also, Zajnet still living just doesn't make sense to me. Why wouldn't the scum have just killed him the very next Night after ani flipped scum?

[Doombunny9]

The reasons for "Neto is town because of his clearing of M=W" don't exactly work because if you remember, he also failed to give a report today, something that could only have been done if he was maf or if scum had a mafia roleblocker.

Also here's what I'm thinking the mafia were:

Ani-Unknown but I'm thinking Goon
SK- Mafia Neighbor
Last scum-If mafia NKs scum get an extra power.

Anyway, it is still autowin. Let's pretend we lynch Neto today.

If he flips town: Papa chooses Incog and we lynch Zaj tomorrow.
If he flips scum: Papa chooses Incog, no need for another day.

[Incognito]

That's true. I really do prefer a Zajnet lynch Today though because I can only assume that he's un-nightkillable (since I targeted him last Night and my kill got redirected to Parama). If Zajnet flips town, I can target Netopalis Tonight with my NK if that's what the town wants.

[Doombunny9]

Want to hear from Papa about this and from Zaj about... Well just about anything. Until then I will

Unvote

If whoever we decide to lynch flips town Incog obviously shoots the other and if whoever we pick flips scum then Incog doesn't shoot. Papa chooses Incog tonight and it doesn't even matter what M=W or I decide to do.

GG scum, well played.

[Incognito]

Bump.

[Percy]

Zajnet has been prodded!