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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:49 am

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Wow, my waggon is becoming more attractive, and I haven't even posted anything in the meantime. Scum opportunism...
xRx wrote:Sure.

This post comes from a townie's POV. Also, meta.
Sure, xRx, that is waterproof evidence that Ex is town...

LyLo is better for town than MyLo. Period. I won't follow any other logic when it comes to strategic choices. Not if I intend to play for my wincon, that is. If I can imrove my chances of victory from 24% to 34% (!), I'll definitely do that and not ask any one who is almost 50% guaranteed scum for permission.

Your argument that one misled townie is enough to guarantee a mislynch is just not valid. It would be in any normal LyLo, becasue scum can win the game there right awa and needs not to care about any consequences. If scum just jumps on a town waggon in this game, they're pretty much toast.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:55 am

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Shadow, stop being a ponce.

If you don't make reads, you can't scumhunt. I have a town read, therefore that's at least one person who I won't be lynching today. Your wagon is becoming more attractive because I keep thinking of more reasons I want to lynch you.

Magna, I'm hardly caps locking this game. Fate isn't here with me. I don't have a caps lock buddy. Plus nobody has incited me to rage (yet).
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:10 am

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If you want to hear about ma reads: Every single post of you makes me more confident that you
are
scum... However, there're still lots of players who havent' even shown up. So I wouldn't rule out that you'll get rivals on that spot...
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:16 am

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>_>

You're bad at this, aren't you?
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:22 am

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I don't think you're in a position to judge that.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:23 am

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*checks win/loss record*

Yeah, I am.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:33 am

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Before you try to set up more strawmen you better learn about the meaning of statistical significance.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:31 pm

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Blah blah blah blah blah.

Seriously, for someone who bitches about scumhunting, you're doing very little of it.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:36 pm

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First of: I never "bitched" about scum hunting.

That being said: I caught you. Since no one else is active at the moment I can only wait for more activity to find your partners.

Oh, and it's three pages into the game and not even all players have confirmed, so you haven't even got a marginal point...
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:38 pm

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OH YOU'RE RIGHT I'M OBVSCUM

Let the tunneling commence.
Hey, can some townies check in already? Goddamn.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:56 pm

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It's also no tunneling: There's no one else than you and me...
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:03 pm

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This is true.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:19 pm

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Finally we agree on something :P Let's stay with that and wait for some other player's contributions, continuing this won't do any good...
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:15 pm

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Why's Reck scum?
Seriously. I don't see it.

Maybe I'm meta-biased but Reck doesn't really seem like scum to me.

On the other hand, Lowell and Magna (the first more than the latter) are giving me bad vibes. Lowell, motives for the vote please.
Feels like I've been here before.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:20 pm

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NoPoint wrote:/confirm

blue townie yesh
Forgot to point out earlier how much I hate this sort of stupid play.
ShadowDancer wrote:LyLo is better for town than MyLo. Period. I won't follow any other logic when it comes to strategic choices. Not if I intend to play for my wincon, that is. If I can imrove my chances of victory from 24% to 34% (!), I'll definitely do that and not ask any one who is almost 50% guaranteed scum for permission.
First off this is a horrible Appeal to Statistics. Whether there is a better chance RANDOMLY selecting scum in MYLO or LYLO has little to do with how this game's mechanics operate. Attempting to produce MYLO when scum’s victory condition isn’t to kill till they have equality is counterproductive. Especially since scum can choose to respond with a No Kill if they chose nullifying your gambit. A higher lynch threshold means scum are more likely to have to wagon as a group to get their required three lynches.

Reck’s random lynch suggestion may have been bad but your continued insistence that attempting to force LYLO is the best play is far worse. Plus quite honestly you look worse for the wear in your debate with Reck.

UNVOTE: Reck
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Exilon wrote:On the other hand, Lowell and Magna (the first more than the latter) are giving me bad vibes. Lowell, motives for the vote please.
Didn’t you learn anything from Classic Mafia Exilon?

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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:27 pm

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Guys, I just learned that I'm going to be V/LA for the next week or so... :/ Might be best for a replacement? Sorry, people.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:34 pm

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Magna wrote: Didn’t you learn anything from Classic Mafia Exilon?
I learned many things, Magna xD One of them is trusting you a bit more since your meta is a little different from what my criteria looks at as being scum. The other was being short and concise. Along with lots of other stuff, but on to serious matters: what's that have to do with Lowell offering a contentless vote?
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:17 pm

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If you doubt statistics you better come up with one of your own. We aren't in the stage to talk about it, any way.
Rule 7 sucks... Introducing it now means bad planning by the mod...
Seriously, if we mislynch D1 our chances of winning boil down to some mere 10% or something... I'd rather go no lynch two times than challenge that...
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:20 pm

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Shadow Dancer wrote: Seriously, if we mislynch D1 our chances of winning boil down to some mere 10% or something... I'd rather go no lynch two times than challenge that...
So you'd rather purposely lose the game than play in MYLO?

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Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:21 pm

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@Reck: Wow, even more scum slip. From your action I can infer that you like bandwagoning. So why are you suddenly getting all overly defensive when a bandwagon is on you. I myself don't oppose to bandwagon, but the point of scumminess in your and Knight's vote on SD is you don't focus on his main argument to bandwagon but rather disgress on the minor coincidence that he is OGMUSing. Thus I see your actions as clear attempt to be one of the first to be on a wagon to lynch a town. And that makes me think SD is town too, Exilon is being taken advantage of and Knight being your partner.
@Magma: no power role so why not?

Since Knight is VLAing
Unvote:Vote:Reck
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:06 pm

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toolongofausername is awful
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:08 pm

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Not adressing my argument but instead choosing to make jokes of your attacker will get you nowhere scum.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:09 pm

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Did'tn't read your whole argument. Too drunk
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:10 pm

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Then Im awful because I voted you? Who's OGMUSing now?
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:11 pm

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Yes. I'm town and you're voting me for [insert reasons here], therefore your case is awful.
From my POV anyway.
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