Supernatural mafia - Mafia team wins!!!!!

[ReaperCharlie]

P.S. I have seen scum trackers in games before, it's possible Magna is trying to just set me up because he knew there'd be nothing I could claim to get out of it.

[Nero Cain]

un hunt

I find it quite funny that Day 2 opens and we see an rush of Day 1 lurkers popping up to comment on game design and not discuss their almost total absence Day 1.

Until we see some flips this discussion seems rather pointless.

Hunt: TheLonging.

Nice of you to join us. You are tickling my scumdar already.

see i see what you are doing here although i apreciate it its misdirected. I'll give you a few hours and let the maths catch up to you. I we were to no lynch or not hunt today now is the only time we as a town would still be able to recover. However with the lack of flips there could be all dead townies out there or all dead power roles, or we could be really lucky and

scum had crossedkilled. however i doubt we are that lucky.

but yah if your that blood thirsty hunt away captian crusader.

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Scum can cross-kill? Sounds like a case of ‘Inadvertant slip of information that only scum have at this point’. If that’s the case thanks for letting us know early that we are in a multi-scum team environment.

Unhunt – TheLonging
Hunt – Tubby

Well I think I've extracted enough reaction with my pushing of the Tubby wagon that it's time to end the farce.

Unhunt Tubby.

Reaper the fact that you only get content heavy when under fire is a concern that is just not going away for me.

Hunt Reaper

Ok people fun's over.

Tubby may be a fine lynch down the line but Reaper is the call for today.

Seriously there is a

VERY

good reason why he's scum.

More Reaper vote please.

I would like to know what (if anything) points to me being scum.

And am I right in assuming you were joking about what you said about tubby earlier with his alleged 'scum slip'? You don't think that's a scum slip any more?

It was a test Reaper ... didn't you divine that from the lack of cohesive case that usually accompanies votes from me that aren't based on information roles?

As to why you are scum it's simple and I'll just put it out there for everyone to see

You were Tracked last night to Molestargazer who quite convienantly is Waiting in the Wings.

I'd rather not pussy-foot around with you. You may begin to flail about now.

More Reaper votes people!!!!

I don't get all the flip flopping. Then you come out in 617 and said you used a night action. Why did you wait so long?

The biggest problem is, if we trust you and lynch RC we won't know his alligment/role.

[Benmage]

The biggest problem is, if we trust you and lynch RC we won't know his alligment/role.

Trust?!!? Whats not to trust. RC admitted to visiting mole. Keep with it.

Now either you believe RC's claim or you don't.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

And we know if he Scum or Town by this claim ....because?

[Benmage]

And we know if he Scum or Town by this claim ....because?

If you believe his claim to be a townie tracker with a one shot vig who visited mole last night, than surely you must think him town...cheah. If you don't believe all that than you believe him to be mole's killer i.e. scum/sk/whateverantitown.

[LimMePls]

i don't know who killed mole but i sure as h311 didnt.

Saying this doesn't make it so.

And instead of ignoring when I caught you in a complete distortion, you could have owned up to it. The fact that you were unwilling to is even FURTHER proof of your consciousness of guilt. When you have nothing to hide and someone points out you're incorrect, you own up to it. Ignoring it shows you have something to hide.

Reaper couldn't be more guilty folks. He accuses people of scum for terribad reasons, and then immediately backtracks (claiming sarcasm), he says those who start wagons on anyone but Tubby are "NOT contributing" and implies it is scummy, when I point out he says it, he doesn't deny it, he just changes the subject. To top it all off he was tracked to a NK. Talk about a smoking gun!

I dont know if you caught a PR tell or what, but it seems like you've been trying to push a lynch on me since day 1 and are looking for the smallest possible reasons and riding other peoples thunder to accomplish your own ends.

This is called flailing for a defense. And failing.

Moar RC votes pls.

And we know if he Scum or Town by this claim ....because?

We don't. We know he is scum by his play. Why would we know this by his claim? The only reason he even admits he visited Mole is after the tracker claim. What do you expect him to do, throw his hands up and say "You caught me"?

[Midnight's Sorrow]

How anyone can make any educated assumption without flips is surly smoking the weed

[Benmage]

How anyone can make any educated assumption without flips is surly smoking the weed

How are seeing the dead flip going to change what happened or what he claimed. If mole ends up flipping an anti-town role, that wouldn't even clear RC's fakeclaim. You following?

Which btw RC, to play along did you see Mole go anywhere last night?

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Surprisingly enough, I'm following. But I'm not seeing what your seeing here :/

[Nero Cain]

since Benmage can't read very well.

I thought it was quite obvious my post was directed at Magna NOT RC. What I was saying is that if we don't believe RC's claim and we trust Magna's claim and lynch RC there's a big hole. It could be days before we ever got to see RC's flip and this could very well be a no reveal game.

And we know if he Scum or Town by this claim ....because?

Nice twisting but I was neither defending RC or demonizing Magna. Simpling pointing out that if we lynch RC we wouldn't know weather he is scum or town.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

And we know if he Scum or Town by this claim ....because?

Nice twisting but I was neither defending RC or demonizing Magna. Simpling pointing out that if we lynch RC we wouldn't know weather he is scum or town.

Too bad that wasn;t really directed at you :/

[Benmage]

Oh my god!


YESSSSS

[ReaperCharlie]

No, I did not see him go anywhere. I got a 'no result' or something.

[Nero Cain]

i don't know who killed mole but i sure as h311 didnt.

We don't. We know he is scum by his play. Why would we know this by his claim? The only reason he even admits he visited Mole is after the tracker claim. What do you expect him to do, throw his hands up and say "You caught me"?

Thats a good point.

unhunt

[ReaperCharlie]

Oh my god!


YESSSSS

THIS!!!!

[Nero Cain]

Oh my god!


YESSSSS

I have a light sabre one to.

[Benmage]

Nice twisting but I was neither defending RC or demonizing Magna. Simpling pointing out that if we lynch RC we wouldn't know weather he is scum or town.

But the question at hand is do you believe him to be guilty of killing mole or not? If you don't than you can go along with thinking him town. If you do think him the killer, than you also yield he lied about his claim...which is just got scum written all over it.

SO yes not knowing flips sucks balls....theres no reason to dwell on it at the moment. Lets move forward and lynch the fakeclaim

[LimMePls]

P.S. I have seen scum trackers in games before, it's possible Magna is trying to just set me up because he knew there'd be nothing I could claim to get out of it.

Occam's Razor tells me the simplest explanation tends to be more likely. Take the sum of all your play, add it up and then put a nice big "you visited a player that ends up NK'd" cherry on top, and it equals a Reaper-Scum Sundae. Magna's play on the other hand has been anything but scummy.

In order for your suggestion to be true, Magna would not only have to target you with his track, his scum team would also have to HAPPEN to submit an NK on the person you happen to target. Presumably they wouldn't have the track results until after, so you are asking us to suppose that not only did they pick you for a track, they also happen to pick for an NK the same person you targeted that night.

I'm gonna have to go with my ol' buddy Occam on this one. The simplest explanation is that you are lying and you NK'ed Mole.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

And thus the thread descended into the chaos that is Lynch all Claimers.....

[LimMePls]

MS, you are literally making 0 sense.

[Benmage]

And thus the thread descended into the chaos that is Lynch all Claimers.....

Probably anyone who gets tracked to a person who ends up dead will end up hanging.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

How unfortunate for said souls to be visited by Lady Luck in her time of the month

[Benmage]

[ReaperCharlie]

instead of ignoring when I caught you in a complete distortion, you could have owned up to it.

i did. but that wasn't my focus at the time. call that scummy if you want, i call it not wasting time on stuff that really doesn't matter (read: your ego about being right all the time). i still thought tubby was scum and wanted him lynched so i stayed on his wagon and followed the conversation in the way that it went. i didn't ignore you like you are saying.

The fact that you were unwilling to [own up] is even FURTHER proof of your consciousness of guilt. When you have nothing to hide and someone points out you're incorrect, you own up to it. Ignoring it shows you have something to hide.

how can you say this when i DID own up to it? when you pointed out that you wanted me to own up to it, i did. please remind me again how that's bad.

He accuses people of scum for terribad reasons, and then immediately backtracks (claiming sarcasm)

who have I accused of scum for terribad reasons? YOU? I said "you say 'the town' like you are not part of us", sarcastically, and then because you have all the intelligence of a tree stump and didn't catch the sarcasm, you think it's backtracking later for me to say it was sarcasm. who else have i accused for terribad reasons? name one. please.

he was tracked to a NK. Talk about a smoking gun!

you know i can't defend against this. and you're right it does look like a smoking gun. but i didnt kill him. there's no way i can convince you or anyone else, and i'm not gonna make any deals and be like 'look if you dont lynch me i'll track really good, i swear!!!', but hey i am giving all i can give, which is basically nothing but it's what i've got.

I dont know if you caught a PR tell or what, but it seems like you've been trying to push a lynch on me since day 1 and are looking for the smallest possible reasons and riding other peoples thunder to accomplish your own ends.

This is called flailing for a defense. And failing.

no this is called bringing to light a guy who's been pushing for my lynch for any reason possible since day 1, and who didn't believe in any of his own cases on day 1 so he backed off and went with an easier wagon.

then day 2 when somebody else says something about me, you pretend that you knew it all along.

What do you expect him to do, throw his hands up and say "You caught me"?

uh, that's exactly what i DID do, what else is there to do? lie, and say that I didn't track him??

if i WAS scum and i HAD killed mole, dont you think it's PRETTY FREAKIN CONVENIENT that i have a tracker role fake claim? seriously get real. yeah yeah insert wifom here, but whatever the point stands.

[ReaperCharlie]

Lets move forward and lynch the fakeclaim

what is wrong with my claim. dont you believe me? would my claim not

perfectly

explain what magna saw? i dont know if it fits flavor or not but nobody seems to be saying anything about that so i'll take it that it does fit.