Harry Potter Mafia - Over!

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/confirming. I love being australian and thus missing the very start. I like the books hate the movie.

Vote: UK

You deserve it for being annoying in the no rules mafia.

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Ooh this will be fun if he does.

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Ok now as far my meta on him goes FG plays like VI through early day one or at least he did in the last game I played.
Farside's drive is appreciated and I am tempted to think that farside and sudo are townies that got off on the wrongfoot as opposed to doing anything wrong.

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Ok now as far my meta on him goes FG plays like VI through early day one or at least he did in the last game I played.
Farside's drive is appreciated and I am tempted to think that farside and sudo are townies that got off on the wrongfoot as opposed to doing anything wrong.

If game is over can I get a link to the FG game.
Why do you think two townies getting off on the wrong foot with me and sudo?
kmd: you better post something of value this game.

The game is still going.

You look protown for now unless you are trying to push without letting other people get opinions in, I don't think that is the case and so i have a pro-town read on you so far. I don't see the points on sudo and so I don't have a particular tell either way on him thus far.

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I will be V/LA until monday depending on how well my 18th goes.

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@Raj: Happy birthday
Sera: What's your view on my case against Sudo?

Espy: Do you understand my view on why I believe Sudo to be scum?

Yes but I don't think it really holds enough water to be a good case.

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back. We had a lot of V/LAs this weekend. Was there some sort of holiday in the us of a?

Anyway back to the game. I will be commenting on the recent happening in my next post.

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ok first off, my vote on kmd is a joke omgus,

obviously

, so

unvote

. I agree with a lot of what he says in his post, just not the part about me, obviously. I'll get into that a bit later today if I have time, or when I come back from V/LA.

Who are you trying to convince with those italics bud?

Unvote, Vote: Reap

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I hate people that do this.

- Read all seven pages
- Just waiting on something before I post

What I hate more is people that do this.

- Read all seven pages
- Just waiting on something before I post

Waiting on what, exactly? I'm not sure what exactly you have to be waiting for, before you can give your opinions on the 7 pages that already exist.

Let him go and judge after you have seen what he is doing.

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Mmk

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I'm here. Was away now back. Ok to the game.

Why would you claim miller straight off and not wait to see if you even get investigated. In all honesty the main incentives I can see for that is that you are non godfather scum trying to get yourself cleared if you get investigated or a third party role that doesn't want the scum to kill you because you can easily be set up.

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"I wash my hands of this weirdness."

Question: Why am I town. I forgot about this game until I saw that a name I barely knew was in my watched topics so I checked it out.

Sorry guyz. Imma do a reread tonight.

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I can see Dementors being Pro-town. To be perfectly honest they are almost neutral and anyway in games with easy roles to pick out the alignment of roles should be randomised so Harry could even be scum. I don't know if that happened here but i am willing to believe the claim.

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I'm not a Death Eater.

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Actually, looking at my role PM. The way the win condition is stated, my role and the Dementor's 'job' (in books) I am liking that role claim being pro town even more.

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If you had the towns win condition coupled with what the dementors are supposed to do then it would look pro-town to you as well.

Unless Sens was going for a late series veiw of Dementors, as in when they were in Voldemorts power. However I am under the impression that wasn't what is the case here.

We are delving into mod WIFOM so I think that we are at a stalemate on the issue. You either agree or you don't.

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No. I assumed you wanted me to back up what I was trying to say.

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Unvote

It was a long time since that vote and I like both the claims made.

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Esp: Wait, you actually believe Sudo's claim? A dementor would not be a jailkeeper, and even if it's the only thing that fits flavor-wise, I still can't see that as being a pro-town role. When was the last time you watched Prisoner of Azkaban or read Deathly Hallows? Please tell me you know that they are almost exclusively trying to kill good guys and help bad guys throughout the series from Book 3 on.

This thread needs moar Sudo_Nym wagon.

Umbridge for all intensive purposes is "good" and has command over dementors. That happened Order of the Phoenix so there is a notable exception.

So taking the context of the game it could swing either way.

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His claim is essentially right and if you added straight flavour it would very close to correct. Still believe the claim until furthur notice.

btw: Town or not he is a dementor, it is just his alignment which is in question.

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Wait!

My role, *skim, skim, skim*.

Sudo is scum. VOTE: Sudo

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Someone wanna drop that hammer before we end up without a lynch?

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True.

Ok I can provide a bit of light on the matter and why my role kinda points to him being scum. That would require a roleclaim on my part though and while I'm not really adverse to this it all hinges on wether I interpreted my role 100% correct. I think I have in light of the Dementor claim.

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Kill Sudo.

I am a protown patronus. I can't be killed by normal means. Dementor kinda fits that bill. That fact that town has a patronus means that Dementor as town makes NO sense.

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He needs two more votes. Furclow (however you spell it) switched votes.

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I didn't make the connection between the hard to kill and dementor. I just thought yeah dementor makes sense with patronus. To be honest it was stupid to think otherwise.

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Ok. To be perfectly exact I am Harry's Patronus.

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should 5 knuts

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should BE 5 knuts

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Oh come on, I was pretty sure Sudo was town.

Is there any way you could have written that which would have made it sound even more scummy?

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Vote: MPR

btw Dram is town. That didn't feel like a scum slip to me.

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ebwop
VOTE: MPR

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Didn't fakeclaim Patronus. I'm actually a patronus.

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Paraphrasing my PM. I'm Prongs the patronus. As a patronus I can't be killed in the conventional way. If I am killed I get to keep posting in the thread.

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Ok here is what I propose. We try to lynch me today while we can still afford a mislynch in the case I misunderstood what can't be killed by normal means means. The it should count as no lynch. I am then confirmed in my role and we can move on to lynching scum.

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As far as I interpret my role I am hard to kill and I can keep talking in thread after I die. I will lose my vote though.

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ok I don't know if I'm unlynchable. I think I might be though. I am able to talk in thread once I am dead but I have nothing else so that means no vote once I die.

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Once I die, no.

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Thank you. I'm claiming that I think I might be unlynchable. Not that I am certainly unlynchable.

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1) MPR
2) FakeGod

V/LA for 48 hours ish

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Furc

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Dramonic

This game is going to get very fun very quickly.

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oh and you passed the test. Thought you should know.

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AC & AC.

I take it ooba didn't expect to die and wanted to give scum an indication that he was in-fact a traitor. I wouldn't be surprised if ML was right about the Carrows.

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I'm still waiting for how that claim makes sense on its own merits AND how it serves as a quasi-cc of the jailer.

1. Take it up with the mod after the game.
2. Well I have been told that I am hard to kill. I assumed that because of my role the dementor was a scum jailkeeper and had to capture me to kill me. Patronus and Dementor sounded like linked roles to me.

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I'm going back to my original vote. UNVOTE: Dram VOTE: MPR

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Back. Sorry for the V/LA. Will make a comment that is game related soon. I need to check my other games and eat.

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Now to find out what that can't be killed by normal means means.

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Well now. I might have to do some scum-hunting now that I don't have to defend myself. I will try and be more useful in death.

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Doc probably protected RC. So nothing new there.

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btw seeing as I am dead and nothing really applies to me anymore I want to ask town how they would like to use me. I can continue posting my musings about the game which someone might find useful when making cases or I can make an attempt at a good case. Considering how out of this game I have been I think the first would be better but I will still make cases if the town wants it.

You guys choose.

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I was actually about to self hammer and then I realised lynch had already happened.

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If anyone cares I think Andrius is scum because of Spyrex's death and RC's little case.

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@ FG: What do you want me to explain?

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Self confirm then pleases

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If you guys care I think Furcolow is a good lynch no matter what alignment.

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Yeah Andrius is scum but furcolow is being annoying enough to be considered cloudy for this game, if you know what I mean.

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Ok ok ok. I'm saying that town could do alot worse than a furcolow lynch. Furc = Good Lynch, Andrius = Great lynch.

In the case of town continuing to be stupid on the matter of Andrius then they should lynch furcolow.

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I asked him to earlier.

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I hate this but i buy their claim.

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Oh but only that they are on the same side. I say lynch MPR. If he flips mason then we have the more helpful of the pair left alive and another confirmed townie. If not and he flips scum then we have the game in our hands.

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So furc joins my club.

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Voldemort is posh not scum.

POLTTWIST

Kill FG. The other two aren't really trying to defend themselves as much.

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Just going to point out that my win con had a mention of the ministry and I was a frigging patronus.

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Snape Snape Severus Snape

DUMBLEDORE

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I'll take either Ginny or Hermione.

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I LOVE YOU GINNY!!! I HATE VOLDEMORT!!!

unvote, vote: KMD

note: the first line is not any sort of soft-claim or breadcrumb.

What's her name is much more attractive. Luna. I like her better. [/opinion]

Luna > Grinny > Hermione

Put Luna at the end and you have it.

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Can someone explain to me why manho isn't scum? Out of thew people not on my town list he was the one who messed around with out HP Girls aside.

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manho your man then.

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Lynch Manho.

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Let me replace back in.

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Manho

DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT

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His olnl defence to being non scum was that he made one case. + I don't like the way he handled the off topic discussion.

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Gut and lots of little things. Also most people said they had a feeling that either farside or sudo was scum on day one. Sudo = town. Trust me on this one.

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kill someone not named Fake God. If you don't I'm going to have to make a long post that requres quotes from three different games. I don't wanna do it.

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i will not lynch fakegod today, find someone investigate him or simply block him and he will not be a threat, and we can lynch him later.

i'll go with a kmd or raj lynch.

i'll read NS later to see if i support the lynch.

no one should lynch me, i'm too important to be lynched.

1. Bit late there.
2. Fine.
3. NAO not later.
4. Dee nied.

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Hammer time.

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Fake God had better be scum.

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I FRIGGIN KNEW IT. Trust mah meta reads.

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I did say it was Manho.

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Just lynch so we can move on.

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major

fos on Espeonage

for wanting to rush.


i think that having the headmaster control the order of the claim is best.

This post is full of win. Also nice RC.

Anyways Manho is the lynch. Mass Roleclaim won't change that unless manho is brilliant at fake claiming.

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sorry his post confirms why he was lynched in the first place.

lol I was lynched because my claim was too farfetched. Sure I wasn't playing optimumly but still.

I call hypocrite.

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raj

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i'm Graup the giant, bulletproof.

If you are, probably aren't, then the mod hath redeemed himself slightly.

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Ok Cool. check noone please. At this point we can't have no WIFOM. Also if You had innocent on Fake God and he claimed Beloved Princess. WHY DID YOU NOT SAY ANYTHING.

I don't believe his claim.

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If you are who you say you are imma give you a tongue lashing come post game.

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Wait can we get a name with them?

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Ta

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he means nobody.

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maybe, ive seen weirder things.
yep
nope

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ooooooooooh. OK. NOONE SAY ANYTHING PLEASE.

Next person claim. No talking until then.

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Oh next is NS. ML can wait.

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Fine whatevs.

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*Jeopardy music starts playing*

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...

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VOTE: Nobody

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Ok so NS. Is it you or Magna?

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Poops, didn't work. I tried guys.

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Oooooh what if there are two Draco malfoys to fuck with our heads?

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EBWOP. Had draco on the brain. I meant to say Stan.

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Ok. I'm about to Propose something so crazy that it just might be true. It is going to need its own post.

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MAGNA / NS SCUMTEAM

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:'(

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Would we have won had I bothered to make the meta town case on FG? I kinda feel responsible a bit for the loss. I could have stopped the death signing and kept us in it.

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lol

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My role should get a scummy for worst role.

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How townie it was.

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OMGUS VOTE: RC

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Damn you and your magic. I still have no idea how I can a, talk. b, have placed a vote when I was alive. c, was alive and d, be on the same team as my major enemy.

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My role should have been. Can't post but I can read what happens in the Mason QT.

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Nah was talking about how me patronus was on the same team as a dementor of all things.

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I found it fair ordinary tbph. I suppose the banter was kinda enjoyable but that helped towards town losing.

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Aww and I was just getting to know you. Bring your daughter up on MS and you can keep playing. Hmm maybe to young for that.

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Yeah she's only 2 weeks old, I don't think that'd go over too well w/my wife.

My wife was really excited that I was quitting Mafia too... so... we'll see

That isn't a good sign for us. But yeah props for retiring coz of your family.

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Nice write up.

I am still kicking myself that I couldn't be bothered taking the time to make my town Fake God meta case. Fake God wouldn't have died and we would have had a confirmed townie in MPR and Fake God alive which would have been enough to maybe crack a scum and crumble your good little thing. It would have been a long shot but it might have happened. GODDAMN SAFECLAIMS!!!

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lol my Wiki page hasn't been updated for months.

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He did play bloody well. Although, as far as head of Mafia's go Fate just outclasses him. He MEGABUSSED both his scummates day 1 and day 2 and ended up winning the game.

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sure sure

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lol good luck if your daughter is anything like you?
















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