Friend wrote:Don't like this one bit - talking about how Jack got us out of RVS is good.TheLonging wrote:Pie only went for Friend and not DH. I assume this is because Pie just jumped on a non-SH member (LOLBIAS)
Anyways this is retarded. Can we not talk about how Jack got us out of RVS? Any more discussion is useless, and those who pursue it (IE: DH) should be questioned further.
I rest my case Your Honor.Wait, when was RVS a good thing? And anyways, you completely missed the point kthx. I'm not going to tell you my point until you make somewhat of an effort to understand.
You're putting words into people's mouths. I don't think he was saying that at all.TheLonging wrote:He's saying that DH's normal meta would be to see how obvious Jack would be doing, so he voted for Friend instead. He never once considered DH voting Jack for the same reasons.
IP obviously won't say yes, it'll just make him look stupid.I may be putting words into Pie's mouth, but that was certainly what MvK was implying, or else I misread him
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Unless I'm misreading, I think one of you wants to discuss "TheLonging wrote:Let me thrust my logical penis into your chattering mouth
Friend wrote:
Don't like this one bit - talking about how Jack got us out of RVS is good.TheLonging wrote:Pie only went for Friend and not DH. I assume this is because Pie just jumped on a non-SH member (LOLBIAS)
Anyways this is retarded. Can we not talk about how Jack got us out of RVS? Any more discussion is useless, and those who pursue it (IE: DH) should be questioned further.
I rest my case Your Honor.Wait, when was RVS a good thing? And anyways, you completely missed the point kthx. I'm not going to tell you my point until you make somewhat of an effort to understand.HOWJack got us out of RVS" and the other is saying that we don't need to discuss "howJACK GOT US OUT OF RVS".
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Actually, yes, one which just finished. About 6 of us know each other from another site, where this game was held.Friend wrote:
This is WIFOM, really. Have you played any games with Demon?InflatablePie wrote:It's too obvious for scum to say "Hey, let me jump on someone who claimed Traitor and throw myself out into the open!"
Demon's not this stupid.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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I never said that I was....I said you were high on my scumlist and that Jack was neutral. I never said anyone else wasn't high up there as well...paranoid much.Friend wrote:I'll assume you're referring to me.
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Kind of, but I woke up an hour and a half ago so I'm still a little "ehh".Haschel Cedricson wrote:Does that make sense to anybody else?
Also, revelation.Unvote. I know I usually go on about having votes down especially early game, but real vote TBD.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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AndFoS: TL[for answering my question back there. Stop that.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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Anyway, Friend, just waiting for a good time to post this, is all. I feel like it's a good time now.
And here we gooooooo
A: You really want to focus on the fact that I took my vote on Jack "seriously". I really wanted to see how far you'd take your argument on me, and wow, did you ever take it far. Of COURSE I know Jack posted that purposely, no one can be that stupid. In your eyes, you could be town seeing dumb-scum, yeah, but I really think that your seriousness of your vote on me really shines as scummy to me, especially since you took your defense to the extreme here. And it's a bit ironic that you mentioned the "noobish mistake" part...that was the peanut butter in the mouse-trap.Friend wrote:InflatablePie wrote:Vote: Friend
1) Player A claims mafia, setting a trap for someone to vote him.
2) Player B falls for it and votes Player A.
Anyone could see that's what Jack was doing. So technically, the one jumping on an easy target is, in fact, Friend: the person voting for Player B.
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Now's the time to mention to the other players that many of us know each other from another place. Hello Fugi, r2r, Demon, MvK and TL. And soras.POINT A:I'm confused. So DemonHybrid falling for said trap is townie in your eyes, but me voting him for it is not?
DemonHybrid apparently still took it somewhat seriously, though, take a look:
You wouldn't refer to a gambit like that as a "noobish mistake" if you understood what was going on.DemonHybrid wrote:Too much experience, too noobish of a mistake.
DemonHybrid wrote:
See Pie's post. =PTheLonging wrote:Vote: Fugitive[/b[ This is not an RVS vote. He's really dangerous as scum. We should all keep an eye on him.
Also Jack's post was so obvious. If you think he's actually a traitor...
Friend's up there on the scum list at the moment despite it being too early, Jack's neutral until he says more.
Waiting for Friend's reply to Pie's post.POINT B:Here, Demon blatantly piggybacks after your defense of him, never mentioning me or my vote on him until you show up.
TheLonging wrote:Pie only went for Friend and not DH. I assume this is because Pie just jumped on a non-SH member (LOLBIAS)
Anyways this is retarded. Can we not talk about how Jack got us out of RVS? Any more discussion is useless, and those who pursue it (IE: DH) should be questioned further.
I rest my case Your Honor.POINT C:Don't like this one bit - talking about how Jack got us out of RVS is good.
TheLonging wrote:He's saying that DH's normal meta would be to see how obvious Jack would be doing, so he voted for Friend instead. He never once considered DH voting Jack for the same reasons.
IP obviously won't say yes, it'll just make him look stupid.POINT D:You're putting words into people's mouths. I don't think he was saying that at all.
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This is getting confusing.ManfredvonKarma wrote:
So, you're fine with DH voting Jack, but not fine with Friend voting for DH using the exact logic that you gave for voting Friend?InflatablePie wrote:I figured DH would see how obvious Jack was being, so I didn't think of this. I see where you're coming from, but I think Friend is more opportunistic.
I don't find DH voting Jack scummy.
I find Friend jumping onto an easy target scummy.
It may be similar logic, but it has to do with timing as well.POINT E:But DH was jumping onto an easy target, so it's the same idea. I'm not sure quite what the difference here is.
Haschel Cedricson wrote:EBOWP: The case on Friend is a good one too. I don't like his apparent assumption that the trap was intended for DH.POINT F:That's what it felt like to me. I don't think Demon took it at face value, but rather acted like he did so he could throw the vote down.
B: I didn't really need to say that I suspected you before Pie did, let's be honest here. Me saying that is a bit of a scumtrap-slip, I have to admit, but the fact that you're still not seeing my non-seriousness of my vote on Jack even after this post is even more mindblowing and knocks down your defense.
C: Not really, if you know that the Jack traitor gambit was obvious, then why do we need to talk about it?
D: <captainobvious> I'd let him defend himself, maybe he was, maybe he wasn't, but you can't make that call either. </captainobvious>
E: It's not an easy target if it's this obvious, so the difference is what you'd call an easy target in this case.
F: A little bit of a flaily defense. Again, no one's that stupid to take something like that at face value.
Vote: Friend
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Lawl wut? I'm not quite sure what's going on... I'm still waiting for Jack to respond. This isn't the first time I've seen someone do some sort of weird fakeclaim for whatever reason... but it seems silly to do it in the first place >.> oh well."It's not a logical inconsistency. B can't be correct because then C would be, but it doesn't go the other way - there's nothing wrong with C being correct. Aside from Twomz saying otherwise." --Mith-
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...seriously?
Well, I can't decide between DH and Friend. Friend is still seeming a bit odd, but DH is now saying he knew jack was being stupid the entire time (aka "nice cover!") and countervotes look a bit odd too.
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I reject these two candidates and substitute my own!Vote: Twomz
No other thoughts?If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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@ IP: I usually wait for conversations like this to finish before I comment on them. I'm a strong believer in 'do not answer questions posed at other people for them'. That said... if Jack is just gonna pull V/LA after that, then I might have to read over what others have said and trying to figure out who is saying what (a little confused which side is which). Interesting first day though."It's not a logical inconsistency. B can't be correct because then C would be, but it doesn't go the other way - there's nothing wrong with C being correct. Aside from Twomz saying otherwise." --Mith-
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Vote: DemonHybrid
I can't tell if Fugi is still RVSing or not.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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I don't know...his vote seems preeeetty serious to meInflatablePie wrote: I can't tell if Fugi is still RVSing or not.-
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I can't tell if Demon is being sarcastic or not.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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Or yours is off. I like to think I'm on the right track.
At the very least (out of all of your guesses), can you explain why you think DH, the person I'm voting, is town?If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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... but you won't, I'm guessing.If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know when you're being lied to?
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Woah, holy crap. Four pages. I am here, catching up now.-
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Oh, thanksorasgoof wrote:Mith had the same question. The answer is no, it is NOT a no reveal game. That rule is just to reinforce the fact that the lynchee should not talk during twilight.gods. I loathe no-reveal games.
For a second I thought your response meant that mith was in this game, and I got super-excited until I looked at the playerlist again. Bawww.
Friend wrote:VOTE: esuriospiritus then for the ass-whoopinghehanded to me in our last game.Vote: Friendfor not being able to figure out my gender.
I L-O-fucking-L'ed. Friend is quite squishy and perfect for huggling. I also like to think his avatar is actually him, and I am actually talking to an adorable kitten.Twomz wrote:Huggle: Friend cause it makes sense.
@posts 35 and 36: For the record, last game I was in with Jack he pretty much pulled the exact same thing. He made a comment about there being multiple scum teams in Avatar Mafia and got day-killed for it.
He was town.
Moral of the story is that Jack is either dumb-scum (doubtful) or town who frakkingenjoyshaving everyone think he's scum right out of the gate. Or smart-scum who is playing a gambit and is able to get away with it because enough people here know his meta.
Upon further reading of the thread, I guess most people figured this out already. I'm just adding more evidence onto the pile.
It is if they've declared their traitor-ness and the guy wants easy town points. (And I see Friend has the same basic point in #71.)Also, scum's first instinct if they see someone who might be a traitor is not to vote for them.
I smell bullshit.DH wrote:This is getting good.
I'm starting to know who to go after.
Going to wait a little bit more though until I go through with a serious vote.
If you have an idea of who to go after, you ought to besharing that info, not saying "hmm, that's interesting, now I'm going to sit back and let a little more of Day waste away before I actually start scumhunting". If you think someone is suspicious, don't sit back, sip at your gorram tea, and tell everyone how thrilled you are that you have idea of who to go after, frellingvote them.
Unvote: Friend;
Vote: DH
Yes.HC wrote:Does that make sense to anybody else?
QFT. Classic scum backtracking move, IME. "YOU FELL FOR MY TRAP BAHAHAHAIP wrote:DH is now saying he knew jack was being stupid the entire time (aka "nice cover!") and countervotes look a bit odd too.OMGUS VOTE".
Hey, look, it's the same kind of thing I voted DH for. Why would you have information/an opinion that is not of the "hi, I'm a power role and x is town you can NK me nao" variety and withhold that information unless you are scum who is trying to suss out what is a "safe" opinion to have at this time?Fugitive wrote:Not right now.
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Hey, I don't mind long posts.
By the way, maybe Fugitive is chillin back and waiting for someone to say something incriminating. Who knows.
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