Supernatural mafia - Mafia team wins!!!!!

[Sawyer]

Because the reasoning is strong.

But you shouldn't worry after all I said when they flip scum, and they're your town reads. So why you sweating?

Your reasoning is based on a hypothetical without anything to support it. That's not strong reasoning. Just because they're my town reads, that makes them town and I shouldn't worry? The fact that you'll want to lynch me based on them being scum alone makes you even more suspicious.

[farside22]

Hunting:

Tubby (5) ReaperCharlie, Sawyer, Chronopie, TheLonging, Snow_Bunny
ReaperCharlie (4) Benmage, Lowell, LynchMePls, GenericHydra
Midnight's Sorrow (2) MagnaofIllusion, Super Smash Bros
animorpherv1 (2) Spreyx, tubby216

Not hunting:

Midnight's Sorrow
GroupThink
Nero Cain
BlazezRb
Ythan
animorpherv1

With 19 players still living it will take 10 to lynch.
Deadline will be Aug 2nd, 6:00pm PST

Prodding:

GroupThink
BlazezRb
Nero Cain

[MagnaofIllusion]

Ani, Magna is Dean Winchester and he was in fact roleblocked. Magna said that his partner, Sam, tracked RC and thats were his info is coming from.

Let’s fact check – there is no proof I was role-blocked. I have evidence that my action was messed with but it is far from conclusive that it was simply a Role-block. Redirect / Bus-driver are also possible choices.

Additionally I’m not really enamored that you’ve spent most of the game defending other players willy-nilly and not really scum-hunting Sawyer.

Watch me get NK'd now, thanks a lot Magna. Lol

Pointless Reaper-scum style WIFOM sandwich. Thanks you are making it easier for me to believe you are scum.

I want to make sweet love to 887.

Of course you do.

Insert obligatory buddying comment here …

This stops. Now. The only scenario in which it makes sense for MS to jump all over RC would be if RC was the cult recruiter (which we don't know because of the flips see follow me here).

RC: Kill someone tonight. A lurker. Probably ani (although use your discretion) if I can't get him lynched which will be coming later on today because my god. Seriously I want four dead tomorrow.

Spyrex what in the hell are you trying to say in the first part? I’m confused as Midnight hasn’t been attacking RC at all. Clarification would be great.

So Reaper claims a kill after tonight – what does that prove? Just wanting to know as it clears up his claim not one bit. You may be confident he’s town … I’m not sold.

I'm Zachariah – Roleblocker

You do know that Zachariah isn’t a very squeaky clean character as he spends a good deal of time torturing Sam and Dean right? And that he purposely aids the forces of hell in unleashing Lucifer. Just wanting to check to make sure you knew that.

[SpyreX]

Spyrex what in the hell are you trying to say in the first part? I’m confused as Midnight hasn’t been attacking RC at all. Clarification would be great.

So Reaper claims a kill after tonight – what does that prove? Just wanting to know as it clears up his claim not one bit. You may be confident he’s town … I’m not sold.

Jump as in jump to defense. Not jump to attack.

And yea an extra kill directly attributed to RC wouldn't clear it up at all. I mean scum are known for their extra night kill actions rite.

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

It was because she was making no sense. I interperetted it as trying to mislead the town. Otherwise, I just started actually paying enough attention to start getting reads about then.

Since you said you're starting to gain reads around the time you voted Midnight's Sorrow, do you have any scum reads? Additionally, are you still suspicious of Midnight's Sorrow?

[ReaperCharlie]

Ok Magna, so you know flavor and MS doesn't. Yippee. I don't know any either. This proves nothing.

And there's no use trying to push my wagon there's obviously no steam because I'm obviously not scum.

If my play/claim didn't have SOME merit, I have no doubt I'd have been lynched by now. Right?

P.S. What case is there on me besides your mason buddy's tracker result?

And how are people saying that tracker + 1-shot vig is too powerful, but MASON plus tracker is not? GET REAL lmao

[Sawyer]

Additionally I’m not really enamored that you’ve spent most of the game defending other players willy-nilly and not really scum-hunting Sawyer.

I'm not "defending" players. I explaining my own views, while talking about why I disagree wih the other point of view. And in doing so, I get reads on the other players. For example, through this RC predicament, Benmage is coming off awfully scummy to me. LMP is to an extent as well, but not so much due to how he has multiple reasons to believe what he does. Let's be honest, RC and Tubby (not as much though) have been the talk of the town for Day 2. Through it all, I look for inconsistencies and unbelievable reasons/reactions for actions/events. That's how I form reads. Though I can see how you and others don't think I'm scum hunting since I don't agree with most of the big suspects you've all had (one of which I was already proven right about).

[Midnight's Sorrow]

I'm Zachariah – Roleblocker

You do know that Zachariah isn’t a very squeaky clean character as he spends a good deal of time torturing Sam and Dean right? And that he purposely aids the forces of hell in unleashing Lucifer. Just wanting to check to make sure you knew that.

Funnily enough, Yes. I read his wiki before the game started. So I'm well aware of this. So? Most characters in this show arn't very squeaky clean anyways.

He makes perfect sense as a role that isn't all that reliable and probably more trouble then it's worth.

[GenericHydra]

Spy is right about RC.

If he can prove himself with a kill, that would be optimal.

unhunt
Hunt Ani

[Nero Cain]

Lowell=active lurking

ani=active lurking

Let me sum up today in my own view. It was Magna and Lynchmepls vs. Reaper and MS.

Ultimitly I'm gonna buy Reapers claim 'cause Bobby is a big part of the show and if he were lying wouldn't the real Bobby come forward?

I have a townie read on MS. However, he could be scum defending a townie.

I'm Zachariah – Roleblocker

You do know that Zachariah isn’t a very squeaky clean character as he spends a good deal of time torturing Sam and Dean right? And that he purposely aids the forces of hell in unleashing Lucifer. Just wanting to check to make sure you knew that.

Its a fair point but then again Sam and Dean aren't squeaky clean either. Their main source of income is credit card scams. That's not exactly pro-town.

This is why I asked weather angels were third party or what would they be. And with 3 nk's last night an angel group could account for the third kill. (A demon group, angel group and then a town vig.) Zachariah is an angel? At the very least MS should get a FOS.

But I think thats half the point of this game, the flavor won't really tell you who is town/scum. Which is why I have to rely on play.

Tubby-not a big fan of his day 1 play and then the suggestion of no lynch was pretty bad.

Midnight's Sorrow-see above

animorpherv1-see above

Lowell-see above + he's way under the radar, IMHO.

Benmage-sorry, I have no case on you. Just something feels odd with you but since I have no case I'm not pushing for your lynch.

hunt: lowell

[Nero Cain]

Hunt: Lowell

[GroupThink]

Got the prod. My apologies, etc. Opened the D2 PM, said I'd get a post in, didn't, and forgot about the thread. So now I'll be reading D2 and making a post within the next 24-36 hours.

Also, it'd be a big help if I knew how to Watch Topics like we used to on the old forum.

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

Also, it'd be a big help if I knew how to Watch Topics like we used to on the old forum.

To subscribe to a topic, look at the very bottom below "Who's Online". Beside "Board Index" is "Subscribe Topic". It's similar to the Watch Topics forum.

Going into game-related stuffs, I replaced Untrod Triplod and I express heavy suspicion on you on my first content-filled post of the Day.

[Benmage]

And yea an extra kill directly attributed to RC wouldn't clear it up at all. I mean scum are known for their extra night kill actions rite.

In a scenario where no extra kill occurs, what's your next move?

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Thats easy ben.

We already have three kill flavors. Slashed, Shot, and turned to ash.

If there's a different one from these three, we'll know. Or two different ones, in the case of scum choosing a different person to send in the kill(Cause theme games usually have scum members with different MOs) to confuse the issue.

Of course, it would really help to know who got what done to them when they flip, so we have some kind of clue in that direction.

[SpyreX]

See MS knows whats up.

Further we'll have a handful of results and mole not being VT is damning in and of itself.

Don't think for a second I will hesitate to kill RC if need be. The fact is this just doesn't make sense to do at the moment.

[Midnight's Sorrow]

I think its safe to assume that the 'Turn to ash" can be sen as probably the mafia's kill. While the 'Shot' can be seen as possible the vig's kill. Slashed is either SK or in the case of a two scum team game, the other scum faction.

@Mod: When we get flips from the night phase casualties, will we be told what MO caused it?

[ReaperCharlie]

Also, it'd be a big help if I knew how to Watch Topics like we used to on the old forum.

To subscribe to a topic, look at the very bottom below "Who's Online". Beside "Board Index" is "Subscribe Topic". It's similar to the Watch Topics forum.

Going into game-related stuffs, I replaced Untrod Triplod and I express heavy suspicion on you on my first content-filled post of the Day.

Subscribe sends you an email every time. For the same feature as Watched Topics, try Bookmarks. Subscriptions and Bookmarks are identical except you don't get emails for bookmarks.

[Benmage]

MS didn't even come close to answering what I said at all, and you barely came close. If there are no different kills and no additional kills than what? Not what happens if we do see a new/additional kill. I'm asking if we don't. (Yes spy you sorta answered saying you won't hesitate to kill RC)

[Benmage]

Oh and Spy, I have plenty of confidence in you. Your list didn't look to bad. But when the powers in RC's hands, I become a skeptic.

[ReaperCharlie]

Haha. You just don't want me to kill you in OMGUS-rage. Don't worry, I'm not an idiot.

But now there's a high chance I might be blocked or redirected tonight if not killed outright.

[GroupThink]

before i get asked what breadcrumbs here they are

breadcrumb 1

nope this guy is 133t like a mofo. like so good i got Kicked out MIT for pwning the joint.

breadcrumb 2

so yah i think i will sit back have my PBR and work on my awesome mullet.

The claims are confusing me; I don't know why we're doing them. Do we

want

people to know who we are? Isn't that just opening up for nightkills?

Lets move forward and lynch the fakeclaim

what is wrong with my claim. dont you believe me? would my claim not

perfectly

explain what magna saw? i dont know if it fits flavor or not but nobody seems to be saying anything about that so i'll take it that it does fit.

This is what I'm not getting about this game. How are we supposed to win? If people can just come up with safe claims based on the information (and accusations) we've given and put out there, how can we ever verify anyone as scum, especially without flips?

So, we're just stuck on claims now, or what? Anything else going on, or can we just lynch someone.

I mean, I'd be okay with lynching someone if it actually helped us, but, the way it stands, there's really no way to win this. We just keep shootin in the dark.

Ultimitly I'm gonna buy Reapers claim 'cause Bobby is a big part of the show and if he were lying wouldn't the real Bobby come forward?

That's not right. That process doesn't make sense to me. What would we gain from outting the actual power role?

Alright, okay

HUNT: NERO CAIN

for pretty much saying: "No, Reaper's clear, unless the real guy wants to step up and put himself on the line."

None of this stuff is really making sense to me right now; usually we learn people's alignments when they die.

[farside22]

@Mod: When we get flips from the night phase casualties, will we be told what MO caused it?

I can't say when you will get flips but I will state what the casualty of the death was when the flip occurs.

I noticed Blazez hasn't posted anywhere in many, many days. I have a replacement so taking his spot is Kmd4390

[tubby216]

Thats easy ben.

We already have three kill flavors. Slashed, Shot, and turned to ash.

If there's a different one from these three, we'll know. Or two different ones, in the case of scum choosing a different person to send in the kill(Cause theme games usually have scum members with different MOs) to confuse the issue.

Of course, it would really help to know who got what done to them when they flip, so we have some kind of clue in that direction.

ok so where are these kill flavors of wich you speak??

[Super Smash Bros. Fan]

Welcome to the other replacements (Ythan, SpyreX, and kmd4390). Glad to see we have a full house now.

how can we ever verify anyone as scum, especially without flips?

Trying to find scummy people and lynch them. Also, we will receive flips, just that we won't get them immediately after a lynch/NK. Once we receive more flips, we'll have more to analyze.

I mean, I'd be okay with lynching someone if it actually helped us, but, the way it stands, there's really no way to win this. We just keep shootin in the dark.

How are you sure there's no way to win this? We are on Day 2, which is far from Lylo/Mylo in large games, so I don't see how it's impossible to win at this point. We have yet to receive flips from hydrak, jmj3000, Starbuck, and molestargazer, more information can come out of those flips.