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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:02 am

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NK-analysis says that Locke is scum, probably with IAI.
Equinox: Have you played with jason before?
I'm probably going to end up voting for Locke today, but I want to hear what everyone has to say first.
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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:38 am

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Nikanor wrote:Equinox: Have you played with jason before?
No. Why?
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:31 pm

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Sorry, what now, Nik? Any good reason for that other than NK speculation? Why does the NK suggest me?
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:37 pm

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What, you want to know why you're scum? It's because you got a role pm that had the words "Mafia Roleblocker" in them.
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:41 pm

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You've even narrowed down my role? Your imaginary powers of investigation are incredible. Putting those aside for a moment, do you have any evidence that's, you know, in the thread? I thought it might help the other players review your excellent case if you told them where to find it.
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:45 pm

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Locke still seems amazed that I've caught him. :P
Equinox wrote:No. Why?
Just wondering.
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:48 pm

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I thought we were on the same team. It's news to me that I'm scum too. You try being told that in LyLo after thinking you're a townie the whole time.

In all seriousness, you're not going to post a case, or even direct people to anything I've said, are you?
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:51 pm

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No, I'm not. Sadly, I have naught but NK-WIFOM and PoE to back me up.
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:56 pm

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This is a fine mess we're in. Equinox insists we're going to lose today no matter what we do, we've got a claimed doctor who still thinks the scum are called wolves and you're down to WIFOM and PoE. Somebody's lying, that's for sure. I'm concerned that Equinox is trying, and has been doing so since yesterday, to AtE us into not lynching her. I'm also concerned that Andrew is doing the best VI act of all time and is going to fool everyone. On the other hand, I suppose you and IAI could be scum.
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:53 am

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No. You can lynch me. I'm just waiting for the moment that andrew94 comes in and places his doomsday vote. What's the point of AtEing when the one person I need to convince absolutely cannot be convinced?

Nikanor... you may be correct, but you need to convince me that you are. Line of reasoning?

Locke Lamora, you too. I'm not entirely convinced that either andrew94 or Equinox are scum.

Why are you and I Am Innocent on to the same person, anyway? Shouldn't you two be playing bad cop, good cop? :P
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:38 am

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Equinox wrote:No. You can lynch me. I'm just waiting for the moment that andrew94 comes in and places his doomsday vote. What's the point of AtEing when the one person I need to convince absolutely cannot be convinced?

Nikanor... you may be correct, but you need to convince me that you are. Line of reasoning?

Locke Lamora, you too. I'm not entirely convinced that either andrew94 or Equinox are scum.

Why are you and I Am Innocent on to the same person, anyway? Shouldn't you two be playing bad cop, good cop? :P
Well if it makes you feel better, my early thoughts are a Locke/Andrew scum team.

These two lines do not match up correctly:

1) I'm not entirely convinced that either andrew94 or Equinox are scum

2) I'm just waiting for the moment that andrew94 comes in and places his doomsday vote. What's the point of AtEing when the one person I need to convince absolutely cannot be convinced?

#2 implies certainty that Andrew and Equinox are both town. And that the 2 scum in {me, Nik, Locke} will pile on Andrew's vote. But #1 expresses that you may be convinced andrew94 is scum???

I do plan on re-reading the thread. I am looking for a new house tonight/tomorrow. My last day at my current job is on Thursday. I start my new job in a new city on Aug 2nd. So things have been hectic in my life. Luckily we have plenty of time to discuss and make our best picks as a group, so please no one rush this thing...
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:50 am

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Well, I certainly will not rush. I'm going to pick this game apart and melt the pieces to find my gold.

I Am Innocent, I'm going to pose to you the same question Nikanor asked me: Have you ever played with jasonT1981?
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:50 am

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EBWOP: Congratulations on your new job! Best of luck with the house! :D
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:31 am

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IAI, are you following the same well thought-out case on me that Nik is? That is to say, no case at all. You two are certainly doing a good job of directing my scum concerns away from the people I'm getting paranoid about and towards the two of you. So far you've both declared that you think I'm scum and neither one of you has got a good reason why, apparently.
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:27 am

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i.e. "Even though I'm scum, you can't lynch me because you have no case. Haha hehe hoho."
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:28 am

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Neither do you, Nikanor...
Nikanor wrote:NK-analysis says that Locke is scum, probably with IAI.
Explain.
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:34 am

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Equinox wrote:I Am Innocent, I'm going to pose to you the same question Nikanor asked me: Have you ever played with jasonT1981?
Nope.
Equinox wrote:EBWOP: Congratulations on your new job! Best of luck with the house! :D
Thanks! We just got an offer on our current house, so things are definitely moving in the right direction!!! :D
Locke Lamora wrote:IAI, are you following the same well thought-out case on me that Nik is? That is to say, no case at all. You two are certainly doing a good job of directing my scum concerns away from the people I'm getting paranoid about and towards the two of you. So far you've both declared that you think I'm scum and neither one of you has got a good reason why, apparently.
In my eyes, you seemed like the obv choice for the NK. So yes, your survival puts some doubts in my mind. Plus I am looking for scum pairs, and you and Andrew or better yet, NDP and Andrew seem the most likely one I can see prior to my re-read.

Once again, I said they were early thoughts. Maybe a re-read will spark some other evidence that I didn't catch earlier.

@Locke: How willing would you be to vote for Andrew today?
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:37 am

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That's strange. You just accused Locke Lamora of being scum with andrew94 (yes, I took the disclaimer into account)... and now you're asking if he's willing to lynch andrew94? >_> Noted.

Why wait until LyLo before deciding to lynch andrew94?
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:38 am

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Equinox wrote:Neither do you, Nikanor...
No, I'm saying that's what Locke is practically saying with his posts.
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:41 am

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What, are you cop? That's the only way you'll get away with not presenting a case. Certainly your belief that Locke Lamora and I Am Innocent are scum have to come from somewhere. Explain.
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:43 am

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Equinox wrote:That's strange. You just accused Locke Lamora of being scum with andrew94 (yes, I took the disclaimer into account)... and now you're asking if he's willing to lynch andrew94? >_> Noted.
What is strange about asking one possible scum to go on record about willing to vote out another possible scum???
Equinox wrote:Why wait until LyLo before deciding to lynch andrew94?
Is this question for me?
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:44 am

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Why not? You were around when we debated whether or not to go with the policy lynch. The result today is andrew94 is alive and has yet to contribute or to vote and end the game for us all.
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:48 am

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I don't think that Equinox or Andrew would kill jason, as it is not beneficial to them. Therefore Locke and IAI are scum.
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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:52 am

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Why wouldn't it be beneficial to either me or andrew94? jasonT1981 is an IC who was about to come in with a fresh perspective of the game. Fresh perspectives mean danger to scum.

Why did you pair people right off the bat? For all you know, it could have been any of the other possible combos.
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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:54 am

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I already had a scum read on IAI. Neto's wagon looks scum-driven as well, and both scum were probably on it.
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