Open 228 - Mafia in KyleVille - Game Over!

[mykonian]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ding_Mafia

What proof do

you

have, Karma? As in, link games plz.

P.S. What does that even mean - scum trying to exploit something suspicious-looking?

If you agree that it is suspicious-looking, then isn't that just called...scumhunting?

So scum can't point out suspicious things that townspeople do and try to exploit said suspicious things to create mislynches? Suspicious does not always equal scummy.

Vote: Hershey Kiss

For doing the same thing Karma is doing.

I'm sorry? Am I misreading this? why hershey and not Karma?

Repeatedly calling my reasoning crappy just makes you scummier. Just because you say "wah wah wah it's not a scumtell i'm not scummy" doesn't make it so.

Given that I've explained why what I'm doing isn't scummy and you have given no proof to support your accusation (that I'm nervous scum and that's why I'm changing my votes), I think I'm validated in saying your reasoning is crap.

@ Muthaa: It's been a good while since the game started. Empking has only one post, and it's a vote on someone who's been generating a bit of controversy for the same reasoning given by other people. This is worth checking out.

And what the hell? I

know

Karma's

initial

vote on me was random, and that he supported it with "reasoning" later. What does this have to do with anything? It looks like you put that in there just because it makes me look scummier.

Do you know how to read, Muthaa? Because Empking's post quite clearly says "Vote: Oop - flipping." I never said he didn't give reasoning. I said he piggybacked off of someone else's reasoning and has added nothing since.

And once again, I never said giving crappy reasoning was a town tell. You're just putting words in my mouth. You continue to put words in my mouth, along with bringing up an irrelevant point that, when phrased a certain way, makes me look bad.

FoS: Muthaa

You have never voted Muthaa. This is your only FoS in the game while you were known for switching votes easily.


You insult me twice, even have the guts to call me a crappy player but it won't save you here. Did you ever realise that with the average scum you can find holes in their reasonings when they start to insult people instead of properly defending?

[mykonian]

About the "interesting night...", the two times "I'm not going to hammer yet": you aren't discussing, you aren't scumhunting. You are only: adjusting to the fact the night went wrong and you didn't know what to say (get the ball rolling? lol. With those two words!). And you didn't want to hammer too soon because the town might blame you for the mislynch.

And the most fun I have is with the answer for Paltry: you are first saying Empking is going to get lynched anyway. I see non of such sings and I have already stated I will oppose that lynch because empking doesn't play as scum here. Then you are doing the same as you had with Karma too: I make a case on you, I must be scum. You don't have a single point against me, only that my case on you might be a "badly-constructed counterwagon to the imminent Empking lynch". Talking about manipulative sentences, this is the top.


I'm going to answer VP's question for him. I might be tunneling now, but the answer should be obvious to any town, but you seem to be different again. When you want a draw? when you are in the disadvantage. We have had 2 mislynches, we are currently in MYLO. I think that counts. One mislynch and we have lost. That's why we want a draw

[VP Baltar]

VP Baltar is giving me bad vibes.

orly? since when?

@ VP Baltar: Why are we voting no-lynch again when that leads us potentially to a draw?

You've officially gone up in scumminess for asking this question.

I'm going to answer VP's question for him. I might be tunneling now, but the answer should be obvious to any town, but you seem to be different again. When you want a draw? when you are in the disadvantage. We have had 2 mislynches, we are currently in MYLO. I think that counts. One mislynch and we have lost. That's why we want a draw

Additionally, I don't feel like the town or the scum have actually played this game. It's been mostly me chiding people for not posting and watching the game die. I'm grateful myk has showed up and is at least posting something, but I'm not about to lose a game because we've basically had to RVS lynch people all game. We're being forced to make cases out of nothing on the few people who do post occasionally. That's not mafia. I don't mind losing, but I at least demand everyone plays the game to the best of their ability. Just look at how many people haven't even posted yet today. It's pitiful. So, yes, I'll gladly take a draw over that.



All of that being said, I agree with myk about the insulting instead of defending from oopid looking scummy. Maybe we should gamble.

[Empking]

VP seemsv to be playing with a far greater town motivation than he's done previously (arguing for a NL when he could pretty easily try for a lynch.) So I support the No Lynching plan.

[mykonian]

All of that being said, I agree with myk about the insulting instead of defending from oopid looking scummy. Maybe we should gamble.

You have pressuring scum into mistakes and you have taking the wrong choice. We shouldn't gamble. We can only lose if we do. Even if we are right, we are facing another tough decision tomorrow. We should force the scums hand, even if it only was to get back to an uneven number.

One other thing: Empking, you are never afraid to vote. Why did you only agree to the plan and why didn't you vote for a no lynch?

Anyway, I know that at least one person who sees that Oop is scum is alive tomorrow: VOTE: no lynch

[Empking]

Though I might always vote for who I find scummy, there's no rush with No Lynch so I'd prefer to get everybody posting first.

[VP Baltar]

yo paltry and battlemage, what's up?

Especially you BM, you've yet to say anything at all. Feel free to proceed.

[PaltryExcuse]

Oh! Crap. I didn't realize this was back on. Will post later today.

[PaltryExcuse]

VOTE: No Lynch

Theory has been discussed, I give my full support.

[kyle99]

[Day 4, Vote Count 2]

[Votes]

Empking

- ()

Mykonian

- ()

Oopidstay

- ()

PaltryExcuse

- ()

VP Balter

- ()

Battle Mage

- ()

Not Voting

- ()

No Lynch

- (VP Balter, Mykonian, PaltryExcuse)

[Activity]

No prods are currently needed and no one needs to be replaced.

[Deadlines and Additional Information]

With

6

players alive, it takes

4

to lynch.

No Lynch selected Day Four

Night Four will last until

July 21st at 6:00 PM PST

I would also like to point to everyone that a new rule has been added, and can be found at the very bottom of the ruleset contained on post 2.

[kyle99]

[Day 5, Vote Count 1]

[Votes]

Empking

- ()

Mykonian

- ()

Oopidstay

- ()

PaltryExcuse

- ()

Battle Mage

- ()

Not Voting

- (Empking, Mykonian, Oopidstay. PaltryExcuse, Battle Mage)

No Lynch

- ()

[Activity]

No prods are currently needed and no one needs to be replaced.

[Deadlines and Additional Information]

With

5

players alive, it takes

3

to lynch.

VP Balter (Town Tracker) was killed Night 4.

Day Five will last until

August 1st at 1:00 AM PST

[mykonian]

lylo. So we have to lynch scum or we lose the game. VOTE: Oopidstay

[Battle Mage]

ISO'd Oopidstay, and don't see much wrong with him, apart from not wanting to take the draw. I dont understand the Mod's addition of a new rule last night. Who wasnt playing to their win condition?

BM

[PaltryExcuse]

V/LA until Monday.

[Oopidstay]

For the record, I play to win, not to draw. I, at least, am following my win condition.

I'm sorry? Am I misreading this? why hershey and not Karma?

Because Hershey was pushing you as an alternative lynch to Robo yesterday, and yet today he goes straight for the shifty-looking guy without even mentioning you. So he did the same thing you're doing, but isn't saying anything about his top suspect from yesterday. With his posting frequency, that amounts to ignoring you altogether. This is scummy. And suspicious.

Would you mind at least

checking

to see if I already answered a question or not?

You have never voted Muthaa. This is your only FoS in the game while you were known for switching votes easily.

I said

in my very next post

that I FoS'ed Muthaa because I didn't want to move my Empking vote yet. Seriously, would it kill you to actually read the thread?

you aren't discussing, you aren't scumhunting. You are only: adjusting to the fact the night went wrong and you didn't know what to say (get the ball rolling? lol. With those two words!).

Got proof for those speculations of yours?

And you didn't want to hammer too soon because the town might blame you for the mislynch.

What I said is the same thing as saying, "I've got concerns with this guy but I'm not going to vote him yet because it'll be the hammer." That's not scummy.

And the most fun I have is with the answer for Paltry: you are first saying Empking is going to get lynched anyway. I see non of such sings and I have already stated I will oppose that lynch because empking doesn't play as scum here.

It seemed to be in the imminent future at the time of my writing. It should still be an imminent thing. Your opposition to that lynch is as anti-town as it gets.

Then you are doing the same as you had with Karma too: I make a case on you, I must be scum. You don't have a single point against me, only that my case on you might be a "badly-constructed counterwagon to the imminent Empking lynch". Talking about manipulative sentences, this is the top.

First, show me exactly where I said anything to the effect of "You made a case on me, you must be scum" with regards to Karma. And with the way you keep distorting posts to make me appear scummy, hell yeah I'm going to look at you as scummy. At the time of writing that post, that was all I had to go off of for you. Now there's more, and your continual inability to read the thread before firing your cannons is markedly disturbing.

I'm going to answer VP's question for him. I might be tunneling now, but the answer should be obvious to any town, but you seem to be different again. When you want a draw? when you are in the disadvantage. We have had 2 mislynches, we are currently in MYLO. I think that counts. One mislynch and we have lost. That's why we want a draw

See first part of this post.

Now I'll respond to some VP stuff, even though he's dead.

orly? since when?

Beginning of Day 3, and my gut was getting a tingly feeling. You're dead and flipped, now, so my gut was wrong on that one.

You've officially gone up in scumminess for asking this question.

See first part of this post.

All of that being said, I agree with myk about the insulting instead of defending from oopid looking scummy.

I insult people, not stupidity. (Or was it the other way around?)

Though I might always vote for who I find scummy, there's no rush with No Lynch so I'd prefer to get everybody posting first.

Speak of the devil, and he shall come.

As much as I'd love to vote you, Myko, Empking needs to die first. Because I'm still a little unsure whether you're scum or just acting stupid.

Vote: Empking

[Oopidstay]

Geez, that was longer than I would've liked...sorry about that, everyone.

[Empking]

Vote: Oopi

Myk is looking very much a town player to me so the lack of Oopi lynch seems slightly out of place if Oopi is scum. He's been a scummy player all game so I'd say that jhe was lucky to get this far. So yeah, I'm placing my vote.

[PaltryExcuse]

VOTE: Oopidstay

No longer camping FTW.

[Oopidstay]

Damn you Paltry.

Emp, was I right about you?

(for everyone else: gratz, you lynched a townie)

[Robocopter87]

Mykonian and Paltry, excellent job! I can't believe I frikkin named the scumteam day one!!!!

I am awesome!!!! And lucky!!

[VP Baltar]

Please refrain from revealing anything until the mod posts. It's bad form.

[Robocopter87]

Ok.

[mykonian]

Damn, can't believe I was this wrong. Sorry oop. I tunneled way too much.

[kyle99]

[Day 5, Vote Count 2]

[Votes]

Empking

- (Oopidstay)

Mykonian

- ()

Oopidstay

- (Mykonian, Empking, PaltryExcuse)

PaltryExcuse

- ()

Battle Mage

- ()

Not Voting

- (Battle Mage)

No Lynch

- ()

[Activity]

No prods are currently needed and no one needs to be replaced.

[Deadlines and Additional Information]

With

5

players alive, it takes

3

to lynch.

Oopidstay (Vanilla Townie) has been lynched Day Five.
Empking and Battle Mage (Vanilla Townies) have been endgamed.

Mykonain and PaltryExcuse have reached their wincondition with a perfect scumwin. Congradulations to them

Thoughts, roles, and night actions to follow.

[kyle99]

Night One

Hershey Kiss (Jailkeeper): Muthaa
Merkabah (Tracker): Muthaa
PaltryExcuse (Mafia): Muthaa

Night Two

Hershey Kiss (Jailkeeper): Merkabah
Merkabah (Tracker): Hershey Kiss
Mykonain (Mafia): Hershey Kiss

Night Three

VP Baltar (Tracker): Battle Mage
Mykonain (Mafia): No Kill

Night Four

VP Baltar (Tracker): Battle Mage
Mykonain (Mafia): VP Baltar