Sawyer, I saw two interesting points in your post that I want to elaborate on.
Sawyer wrote:Benmage's reaction to RC is the bulk of my reasons for thinking he may be scum
Exactly! This feels exactly like how I acted on Day 2 of Star Wars Mafia (my first game here). Now that the game is over (it just ended a day or two ago) I can finally say what happened and how. My scumbuddy (a tracker, which is why I believe there are probably scum trackers in this game, especially with all of the 'hunt' flavor going around, hunting has to go both ways with bad guys hunting good guys as well, right?) was outed on Day 2 somehow, but on Night 1 we'd redirected who we thought was scum to a confirmed mason, and tracked him too. The next morning, bam, the guy we'd redirected him to died, and we got a track result that led directly to the dead guy.
Now here's where I made the newb mistake of trying my darnedest to nail that guy to the wall, because I knew he was scum (the other scum group). But what I failed to realize was that nobody else but me and my scumbuddies could have possibly known with any certainty that he was scum, so this eventually tripped me up and I was NK'd by the other scum group because they figured that part out.
Anyways, the POINT is, I learned that game how scum in multiple scum games will latch on like a bulldog to anything that they think might lead to a rival scum flip. Both because I did it, and because I saw my teammates do it. And once I knew who the other scum were for sure after flips/game end, I could TOTALLY see us ALL doing it. We were busting our balls trying to get the rival scum lynched and it showed.
But, the reason this reminds me of what Benmage is doing is because of one thing: I was dead wrong about a few of the guys I was trying to bulldog and get lynched; in fact, two of the people I was 99% sure were the enemy godfather were as innocent as could be. Incidentally, the first was farside (lol!), and the other was Scott Brosius. I was SO sure with Scott Brosius that I would have bet the ENTIRE GAME on it. And of course, I would have lost.
Which I did anyways, in fact, due to a fantastic scum game played by LynchMePls. Which brings me to your second point.
Sawyer wrote:Like I've also said many times as well, LMP may be scum, but my scumread on him isn't nearly as strong as it is on Benmage, since LMP's made it clear time and time again that his suspicion of RC is based on more than just his claim. So basically, I think LMP is either town that really believes what he's saying (though a bit blinded) or he's scum that's trying to put as much as he can against RC.
I will never again be fooled by LynchMePls. For the last week or two, it was evident that he was the Empire Godfather in Star Wars Mafia, because somebody let it slip in the dead QT. But before that, I had a sparkling, shining uber-townie image in my mind. He was very, very good in that game. So good that he made it from a 7-1 town vs scum scenario ALL THE WAY to endgame, and WON. So good, in fact, that he decided to save his hidden voting power until the VERY LAST DAY, when it was MyLo 2v1 and he used his secret vote for the first time on DAY TEN, and hammered one of the final two townies.
Ok, glad that's off my chest. This is the reason I think LMP should be immediately policy lynched, and why I think Benmage is scum tunneling on who he thinks is rival scum. i.e. In what was each our first game, I made a newbie scum mistake like Benmage is making, and LMP masterfully played over 10 guys like his puppets and narrowed down the voting pool strategically until he could win definitively and decisively.
For more meta:
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13889
Love,
ReaperCharlie