Mini 1012: Mafia In Soraville (Game Over!)

[DemonHybrid]

So if someone's being anti-town on purpose and not contributing to discussion at all, essentially active lurking... we're just going to ignore him and let him continue doing so? Instead of lynching this person, who is acting scummy? Makes perfect sense.

Not contributing to discussion at all?

-everything- started because he fake scum-claimed. Without him, this whole game would have been an alternate reality.

I think he's doing just fine. You don't have to be a man of many words to contribute if the contributions you had already given are powerful enough.

[InflatablePie]

Okay, I could understand the traitor reaction test thing, but at this point I'm not seeing much (if any) content coming from Jack at all, just blatant active lurking. People have brought up that he's acting suspicious and he's continued to do so.

He started the discussion, yes. So what? I've started discussion before as both town and scum; it doesn't mean a single thing. Starting discussion =/= contributing to it.

[Jack]

He started the discussion, yes. So what? I've started discussion before as both town and scum; it doesn't mean a single thing. Starting discussion =/= contributing to it.

Have you contributed to discussions as both town and scum?

Your purported western-centric ethos is scummy btw.

[DemonHybrid]

Okay, I could understand the traitor reaction test thing, but at this point I'm not seeing much (if any) content coming from Jack at all, just blatant active lurking. People have brought up that he's acting suspicious and he's continued to do so.

He started the discussion, yes. So what? I've started discussion before as both town and scum; it doesn't mean a single thing. Starting discussion =/= contributing to it.

Starting the discussion =/= not contributing at all.

You're trying to put WAY more heat onto Jack than he deserves at the moment. He's not the scummiest person here, no matter how much you, Kov and TL want to think so.

[DemonHybrid]

Here, I think IP is panicking at the moment in his defense. I could easily just flip a coin between a TL and IP vote and I'd be just as happy, but for the sake of the current argument, I hate how he's trying to pass the buck onto Jack.

Vote: InflatablePie

Pie's the scummiest, followed juuuuuust slightly by TL, then Kov.

[Kov]

To Kov: What do you think about TheLonging? Is he scum, town? What about his reaction to my scumlist? Curiosity.

It's suspicious he seem's to know that there's a Godfather that is Scummy but other than that not much.
His reaction to your scumlist is similar to what I would have if I was scum. I mean if you had pegged a few scum he might be nervous and trying to encourage a quick lynch on Jack.

I have no idea why your putting pressure on pie he doesn't seem scummy to me but maybe you all know his meta, some logic please i can't vote him without anything to go on?

I dislike the fact that Jack can get away with one post that encourages discussion and still say things like "Reasoning is an illusion." (possible the worst excuse ever used). Am I the only one that thinks reasoning is the only way to find scum... And Jacks play is not helpful he just votes with no reason. I think his lack of words/reasons and his playstyle is detrimental to town.

[DemonHybrid]

To Kov: What do you think about TheLonging? Is he scum, town? What about his reaction to my scumlist? Curiosity.

It's suspicious he seem's to know that there's a Godfather that is Scummy but other than that not much.
His reaction to your scumlist is similar to what I would have if I was scum. I mean if you had pegged a few scum he might be nervous and trying to encourage a quick lynch on Jack.

I have no idea why your putting pressure on pie he doesn't seem scummy to me but maybe you all know his meta, some logic please i can't vote him without anything to go on?

I dislike the fact that Jack can get away with one post that encourages discussion and still say things like "Reasoning is an illusion." (possible the worst excuse ever used). Am I the only one that thinks reasoning is the only way to find scum... And Jacks play is not helpful he just votes with no reason. I think his lack of words/reasons and his playstyle is detrimental to town.

I....doooon't like this response at all. In my experience, that whole "Well I kiiiinda see some things are scummy, BUT overall he's town" attitude on someone getting heat is a safety net in my opinion. And if your reaction would have been similar.....

...why wasn't it?

Read the thread if you want to know why we're voting for your buddy Pie. I think the argument is pretty obvious.

[InflatablePie]

He started the discussion, yes. So what? I've started discussion before as both town and scum; it doesn't mean a single thing. Starting discussion =/= contributing to it.

Have you contributed to discussions as both town and scum?

Your purported western-centric ethos is scummy btw.

Yes, I have. To my knowledge.

Can you rephrase this; I honestly have no idea what you mean.


If you notice, my vote is on TL. I don't like his overdefensiveness and his Godfather/setup speculation comment. I simply said that I wouldn't mind a lynch of Jack, but apparently I'm getting no support (HURR). I would rather have a TL lynch ATM. Now, I just finished a large game where so many people lurked, scum and town alike, and I think people need to start adding content and I am seeing damn near nothing from Jack. Why in the hell does everyone think he's so obvtown all of a sudden? Because he claimed traitor?

P.S. - Funny how I'm the only one suspicious of Jack that he hasn't counter-voted/FoS'd, though.

[Fugitive]

Yeah, Pie is definitely scum. Those reactions to the forming bandwagon were scummy as hell.

You're welcome for catching it town.

[Jack]

P.S. - Funny how I'm the only one suspicious of Jack that he hasn't counter-voted/FoS'd, though.

Jack Post #4 » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:38 am
unvote, vote:Inflatable Pie

Am I the only one that thinks reasoning is the only way to find scum...

Sadly no.

[InflatablePie]

P.S. - Funny how I'm the only one suspicious of Jack that he hasn't counter-voted/FoS'd, though.

Jack Post #4 » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:38 am
unvote, vote:Inflatable Pie

This was a bit before I said you were a good lynch, though.

Yeah, Pie is definitely scum. Those reactions to the forming bandwagon were scummy as hell.

I'm starting to get agitated with people who don't listen to reason. Or who don't think active lurking is scummy.

[DemonHybrid]

P.S. - Funny how I'm the only one suspicious of Jack that he hasn't counter-voted/FoS'd, though.

Jack Post #4 » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:38 am
unvote, vote:Inflatable Pie

This was a bit before I said you were a good lynch, though.

Yeah, Pie is definitely scum. Those reactions to the forming bandwagon were scummy as hell.

I'm starting to get agitated with people who don't listen to reason. Or who don't think active lurking is scummy.

What, do you want Jack to revote?

And if you're this freaked out and agitated due to the few votes that are on you now (regardless of how they were justified)...I can't even imagine how you'll be when you're close to a lynch. I really feel like you're the optimal scum lynch at the moment just by your mannerisms alone.

[Jack]

This was a bit before I said you were a good lynch, though.

So why is it funny that I didn't "counter-fos" you?

Yeah, Pie is definitely scum. Those reactions to the forming bandwagon were scummy as hell.

I'm starting to get agitated with people who don't listen to reason. Or who don't think active lurking is scummy.

@fugitive: yup

[InflatablePie]

*sigh*

[Kov]

P.S. - Funny how I'm the only one suspicious of Jack

What? I voted for him...
I still think Jack isn't helping with his comments.

@DH: If you notice I didn't say TL seemed town i only made comments about how he acted scummy. I certainly didn't try too portray him as more town than scum if I did I'm sorry he is currently the second on my list after Jack.

Also all I can see IP did IMO is try to encourage votes on jack to put pressure on him.. Which is atm what I want. I want him to post more than a few sentences and explain his actions. And who knows maybe he is a traitor...

If he did something else please point there I need more than that, thanks.

[DemonHybrid]

And who knows

maybe he is a traitor...

If he did something else please point there I need more than that, thanks.

Oh, come on.

And I think that your view on TL is an "oh crap, I need to agree with him now" statement, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. You aren't any more town, though.

[sorasgoof]

Vote count later tonight, hopefully.

[InflatablePie]

This was a bit before I said you were a good lynch, though.

So why is it funny that I didn't "counter-fos" you?

Because you've done it to practically everyone else in this game that's been suspicious of you... except me. It's... funny.

[DemonHybrid]

This was a bit before I said you were a good lynch, though.

So why is it funny that I didn't "counter-fos" you?

Because you've done it to practically everyone else in this game that's been suspicious of you... except me. It's... funny.

.....becauseeeee he was already voting for you.

What.

[InflatablePie]

Oh, he never changed his vote. Wow.

Well, that explains that.

[InflatablePie]

Consider me V/LA till Monday. Working double shifts tomorrow and Sunday, probably won't have time to post.

[Jack]

Everyone give a yay or nay on lynching pie please.

[Friend]

Yay, as evidenced by my vote.

[DemonHybrid]

Everyone give a yay or nay on lynching pie please.

I personally think he's a safe D1 lynch, so I'm keeping my vote.

Kov's reluctance to vote Pie noted for D2.

[Twomz]

Nay, I have a feeling he's frustrated by your playstyle, just as I am.

So, I'll just wait for a bandwagon to build and then hammer to end the day. No one really seems to care that much.

Unless the BW is on Jack, my votes already on him.