Newbie 980 ~ Game Over

[Nexus]

Oh. Ok. Yeah, that describes me pretty well. That's how I think of everything. It's how I figure things out, I overcomplicate them, often inadvertantly. I'll look at trying to do that less, I can see how it muddies the waters.

[CSL]

The Shotgun Fest Vote Count

Haylen (2) Mr. Flay, Nexus[/b]
jmurph3 (2) Beefster, Zajnet

Nexus (1) Earlder1
Mr. Flay (1) Haylen
Kov (1) a2rudeboy


Not Voting: Kov, jmurph3

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Deadline and Lynch info

Currently set for Thursday, July 29th, at 7:00pm EST

There are NINE alive, so FIVE votes on a player will lynch.

V/LA's and Prods

Mr. Flay is on a perpetual V/LA status

Etc.

Beefster's 262 did not count, as it was not in a color.

[Beefster]

UNVOTE: jmurph3
VOTE: Haylen

[Earlder1]

Lol, it's nice of you to answer Nexus' question Haylen, but shouldn't you also respond to some of Beefster's issues with you. Not mentioning his post directly after he posted it is a bit odd.

[CSL]

Attention players and backup mod: If you haven't noticed yet, mafiascum has a new theme. See Mr. Flay's signature for the step-by-step to see it.

I got my Sepia back!!! :)

[Haylen]

UNVOTE: jmurph3
VOTE: Haylen

Why?

Didn't have time. And I don't now, I just came online to do modding stuff.

CSL: I'm generally V/LA every weekend due to work and shiz

Noted

[Beefster]

I posted reasons earlier. I made that post to make my vote actually count.

[Haylen]

jmurph: I have more reasoning. I mentioned quite a bit of it earlier, but you seem to want a recap, so...
-The first thing that makes me wary was asking for a scum/town list

I didn't. Stop Twisting my words.

-Then, later, she denied it.

I'm not denying anything, I'm telling you the truth.

-Potentially lying about her read on millar to 'prove' her innocence.

Not really

-I wonder why she only shot the question about millar suspicion with regards to her.

Dont understand this.

-Misleading activity graphs.

They weren't misleading. They showed how many posts Jmurph had made over a period of time, if you would like to check out the statistics for it, then I would be happy to provide them.

-I'm not sure what to think of her using dyslexia (I'm fine with the dyslexia part) to defend herself. I have some of the same problems, but that doesn't stop me from glazing over my posts before posting them. On the other hand, it could be a town tell because she isn't terribly worried about what she posts.

Bingo, I rarely show any kind of care with my play or posts as town. I don't worry about slipping up, so why should I look over my post (Chrome tells me when I've made spelling mistakes).

-Defends herself with her meta.

I didn't defend myself, I told you to take note of it. It was intended for everyone to take it as they saw it. And it's not actually my meta, it's the meta of everyone playing with me. My meta is how I play in games, the was about how people

react

to me in games.

-Whines about people twisting her words. Not sure what to think of this.

I am offended by the use of the word whining. I game you examples of where my words have been twisted or I've been misrepped. So stop misrepping me myself.

-OMGUS on Mr. Flay.

It's not OMGUS if you have reasons for the vote. Which I gave.

As for Nexus: I'm wary about his response after Mr. Flay made the observation. It reeks of WIFOM, as do many of his other posts.

Bolded is mine.

[Beefster]

From you, I just want a list of

everybodies

names and what you think about them,

whether you think they are town or scum.

Infact, I request this of everybody in the game. I'm exempt cause that's what I'm doing right now

How is this twisting your words? You ask for EVERYBODY on a list and whether they are town or scum. You keep ignoring this quote that everyone keeps bringing to your attention.

In response to the weird point you didn't understand. I'll reword it, because it doesn't make sense.
I noticed that you only gave

me

the question about whether you should be worried about millar. What was the purpose for that? As in, why wasn't it a question aimed at everyone?

[Kov]

-I'm not sure what to think of her using dyslexia (I'm fine with the dyslexia part) to defend herself. I have some of the same problems, but that doesn't stop me from glazing over my posts before posting them. On the other hand, it could be a town tell because she isn't terribly worried about what she posts.

Bingo, I rarely show any kind of care with my play or posts as town.

I don't worry about slipping up, so why should I look over my post (Chrome tells me when I've made spelling mistakes).

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Defends herself with her meta.

I didn't defend myself, I told you to take note of it. It was intended for everyone to take it as they saw it. And it's not actually my meta, it's the meta of everyone playing with me. My meta is how I play in games, the was about how people react to me in games.

.

Look at underlined

I'd say that's defending yourself with your meta Haylen.

[Haylen]

How is this twisting your words? You ask for EVERYBODY on a list and whether they are town or scum. You keep ignoring this quote that everyone keeps bringing to your attention.

Funny, you keep missing the end bit. "Im exempt cause thats what I'm doing now." Tell me? Did I give you a full list of who I thought was town and scum?

Kov, whatever, yeah looks like it is. Oh look, I backtracked bad bad haylen. Tbh, I'm really not im a good mood right now to be posting or replying to posts cause I do do things like that. Attack me all you want, I've told you who the scum are,

stop tunnelling me all of you, and get back on track.

[Nexus]

But it was OK for everyone to tunnel on me earlier?

If we don't trust you, why would we believe who you say is scum. Especially 'cos you voted for me, and that's wrong...

[Beefster]

How is this twisting your words? You ask for EVERYBODY on a list and whether they are town or scum. You keep ignoring this quote that everyone keeps bringing to your attention.

Funny, you keep missing the end bit. "Im exempt cause thats what I'm doing now." Tell me? Did I give you a full list of who I thought was town and scum?

Yes. You listed your opinion of everyone. I still don't see how that rationalizes denying that you ever said it.

[CSL]

Calm down a bit. I know you all are trying to scumhunt, but you do need to be civilized.

[Earlder1]

Well, I give Kov points for catching that in Haylen's response. Yeah, Haylen is definitely acting scummy. She claims to know who the scum are.

Who are the scum for sure Haylen?

The only way you would really know is if you were scum.

[Haylen]

Well, I give Kov points for catching that in Haylen's response. Yeah, Haylen is definitely acting scummy. She claims to

know

who the scum are.

Again you're twisting my words.

Note the bold there, and note the bold here:

id I give you a full list of who I

thought

was town and scum?

Especially 'cos you voted for me, and that's wrong...

So you're case on me

is

OMGUS?

[Nexus]

I don't see the point in repeating what has already been said, though. Sorry.

Her erratic behaviour is what the biggest problem is, it's making it difficult to pinpoint what role she has. That in itself could be a play, but I don't think it is. However, when I was challenged for getting overly emotional, I can't remember who by, I tried to explain that it was because I was a newbie. However, Haylen's not, so I can't really see any reasoning for her to be getting so emotionally involved-it's a game...

So yeah, erratic behaviour, on top of the posting of WoTs which really haven't been that useful, perhaps there is also a little OMGUS there, because I did feel angry that she had almost led a lynch on me. However, that passed quickly, and the other reasons all added up to reinforce my vote.

Do I really need to repeat my reasons yet again?

The initial FoS was a combination of OMGUS and actual suspicion. Then, others aired what I had been thinking, and your continued way of posting raised my suspicions further, leading me to vote, and to stick with my votes.

We're going round in circles here.

[Nexus]

EBWOP: I'm professional and mature enough to have explored other avenues and suspicions on other posters, meaning that the fact it was initially an OMGUS redundant, because I do genuinely think you're mafia.

[Nexus]

EBWOP again. And you're taking that quote out of context. I was simply asking why I should believe what you have to say, when you voted for me, despite the fact I know I'm innocent? If you've made a mistake with me, that undermines all your other credibility....

[Haylen]

Ok. Here's a question. Player D is very strong on Player E's lynch wagon on Day One, in fact, he is the leading participant in the lynch, it turns out that the player being lynched is a townie. Player D then claims Cop on Day Two with a guilty on Player F. Does the fact that Player D was wrong once completely undermine his claim that Player F is scum?

[Zajnet]

Where are players A-C? But no, it doesn't undermine his claim.

[Nexus]

Ok. Here's a question. Player D is very strong on Player E's lynch wagon on Day One, in fact, he is the leading participant in the lynch, it turns out that the player being lynched is a townie. Player D then claims Cop on Day Two with a guilty on Player F. Does the fact that Player D was wrong once completely undermine his claim that Player F is scum?

No. But if that happens, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. You're the most suspcious to me atm. Sorry.

[Haylen]

Where are players A-C? But no, it doesn't undermine his claim.

Players A-C had an appearance earlier in this game...or another game. cant remember which.

[Nexus]

This is another thing I don't like about you. Yes, you're V/LA, but you still find time to come in and post 1/2 liners, which don't really do much, but you don't really defend yourself.

However, everyone else has been quiet recently too. *pokes people*

[Haylen]

Yeah. When I'm V/LA, I come in and do some mod stuff, occassionally, I post a line or two in a game. It's no biggy.

I will defend myself when my words have stopped being twisted.