Mini 1006: Random Mafia Game Over!

[quadz08]

In other news, thread needs more vezok votes. He's reeking of scum.

Also, why aren't you voting him, if that's the case?

[AGar]

I am.

[Zajnet]

Meta reasons make me see vezok as town in this one.

[AGar]

Provide them?

[Zajnet]

I've been in a couple games with vezok on another site, one where we were both scum, and one where we were both town. He is hilariously obvscum as scum.

[gandalf5166]

Actually, in a game I'm in, he flipped scum, and he was behaving pretty much the same way as he is in this one.

[AGar]

Offsite meta usually doesn't translate well. Thus, I'm uninclined to believe that the meta is appropriate at this time.

Besides, solely meta is a terribly weak reason to convict or acquit someone. Meta can be changed at the drop of a hat.

[Zajnet]

I'm not saying that he's obvtown, I'm just saying that I, personally, see him as town in this game. I could be wrong.

[gandalf5166]

Actually, in a game I'm in, he flipped scum, and he was behaving pretty much the same way as he is in this one.

I have a question. This is about an ongoing game. Is it still okay, since it's not specific? I'm just wondering exactly where the boundaries are.

[Zajnet]

You should try to avoid any mention whatsoever of an ongoing game. That being said, it's a lot better to provide a link to the ongoing game and say here, go read this, without providing any details.

[totallynotmafia]

I never said a bus driver is bad in scum hands. I said a bus driver is bad in anyone hands.

That's even worse....there's no reason to worry about quadz's role in the case where quadz is town...unless you're scum of course.

@Agar, why didn't you claim first thing day 1?

I think that claiming outright on D1 is the dead wrong play for PGO. It derails discussion and moves the focus away from the game at hand into people wasting their entire time discussing whether the claim is genuine or scum-motivated. By waiting until after a full day of scumhunting has been done, people can form an opinion on my alignment off of my D1 behavior and generally make a post or two about the claim and then move on with the game, and chasing down suspects based off of D1.

So you've played with a PGO before? Could you please link to a game you've played in where what you described has happened? It's mainly the timing of your claim I'm suspicious of, it looks like it may have been a gambit you only just thought of overnight, as it is a really good scum claim.

[vezokpiraka]

Day 2 PGO claim in a 12 player game is the optimum play.
Gandalf is wrong. I am too scummy in games I am scum. The only thing that saves is that I make good fake claims. Vanilla townie is not one of them.

[gandalf5166]

I never said a bus driver is bad in scum hands. I said a bus driver is bad in anyone hands.

That's even worse....there's no reason to worry about quadz's role in the case where quadz is town...unless you're scum of course.

@Agar, why didn't you claim first thing day 1?

I think that claiming outright on D1 is the dead wrong play for PGO. It derails discussion and moves the focus away from the game at hand into people wasting their entire time discussing whether the claim is genuine or scum-motivated. By waiting until after a full day of scumhunting has been done, people can form an opinion on my alignment off of my D1 behavior and generally make a post or two about the claim and then move on with the game, and chasing down suspects based off of D1.

So you've played with a PGO before? Could you please link to a game you've played in where what you described has happened? It's mainly the timing of your claim I'm suspicious of, it looks like it may have been a gambit you only just thought of overnight, as it is a really good scum claim.

I can. Look at Mini Normal 1007.

[Mitsuru Kirijo]

I think that a PGO works the same way as a Bus Driver. We just need to keep an eye on Agar for anything scummy, and if we must, lynch him in lylo. Until then, we should really get on with scumhunting.

[AGar]

TNM - It's ongoing, but reading the PGO page (honestly had no effing clue what it was) and thinking about the role, yes it is an optimum scum-falseclaim. But that's why I delayed the claim. I thought about an out-and-out claim at the beginning, but decided not to, because I thought it would completely derail D1.

Mitsuru has the right idea. If you find me scummy, lynch me, otherwise, let's lynch vezok.

His defense of himself in 186 is pure WIFOM.

[quadz08]

I am.

Shoot, my bad. I missed that post.

My top suspect right now is also vezok. 186 is just a strange post. His defense of himself is talking about how badly he plays as scum. I'm not feeling it.

[MafiaSSK]

Prods and vote count coming tomorrow morning to a post somewhat close to this one.

[vezokpiraka]

After I die can you get quadz lynched please?
kthxbye.

[AGar]

After I die can you get quadz lynched please?
kthxbye.

Any good reason why?

[vezokpiraka]

After I die can you get quadz lynched please?
kthxbye.

Any good reason why?

He is scum. Is that a good reason?

[AGar]

After I die can you get quadz lynched please?
kthxbye.

Any good reason why?

He is scum. Is that a good reason?

Mmm. If I knew it to be true.

[Mitsuru Kirijo]

I don't see how your lynch reveals quadz to be scum. There's more than one person out to lynch you.

[vezokpiraka]

That's not what I meant.
I fyou see that I flip town you'll see that I was right and we gotta lynch quadz.

[AGar]

That's not what I meant.
I fyou see that I flip town you'll see that I was right and we gotta lynch quadz.

No it won't, and no we don't. We'll lynch whoever is scummiest.

[vezokpiraka]

So you lynch the scummiest instead of lynching scums . Way to go.