Mini 234: Astuto-Umore (Finished!)

olio · Post Post #150 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:12 pm

Mr Stoofer wrote:Olio: If you are lynched today you won't be able to speak to your scum buddies tonight.

I'm sorry, but I don't quite follow. Are you saying that I brought out my doc-logic to give it to my "scum buddies" before I get lynched when I had one vote on me? And when you lynch me with your one vote, they never get to know that logic of mine? Can you please elaborate.

Stoofer, how many scum you think there are left in the game?

Fritzler, in the light of island-theory, do you see which way people cross the bridge?

Mr Stoofer · Post Post #151 (ISO) » Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:27 pm

Still happy with my vote but I am very worried about dragyn_mage. I simply can't understand how dragyn_ mage's gut could have concluded that Fritzler was lying. Everything in his story hung together, not least the fact that he appears to have caught CA in a lie about having no nighchoice (and he specifically said, when voting CA, "Hmm, lies."). I'd have no trouble joining a dragyn_mage lynch today.

Fritzler · Post Post #152 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:10 am

olio wrote:Fritzler, in the light of island-theory, do you see which way people cross the bridge?

No, I just see that they cross the bridge. I get a message saying "people who have crossed you bridge:"

Phoebus · Post Post #153 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:45 am

It seems I will have to re-read to get my thoughts in order.
Bear with me.

As far as Fritzler's role goes, it's amusing that you would assume everyone with a night choice crosses your bridge. Isn't it likely that one killing party is in one village and the other in the second? I assume this bridge connects the villages. Polarboy probably went to his death. I did not kill him.
In this sense, I think we just got lucky with yesterday's lynch. CA's posting and his lie were what caught him.

FD had a similar role in Minas Tirith. He could watch one of seven gates and was only told who passed through those. Also, several people were situated in various levels of the city...

I will require about a couple more days to get up to scratch. Sorry.
Can we have a vote count?

Fishbulb · Post Post #154 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:04 am

Mr Stoofer wrote:I'd have no trouble joining a dragyn_mage lynch today.

Sounds like a plan.

Vote: dragyn_mage

The way I look at it, olio might be scum, but I'm almost positive dragyn_mage is. Like I mentioned before, he has just shown up here and there and added no content whatsoever. His vote on Fritzler was probably just to get the heat off olio, or maybe just because he realized the power of Fritzler's role and was trying to get him killed. Then when called on it, he makes a pretty pathetic attempt at explaining himself, which didn't explain anything. And finally, I don't think the rest of us knew that Mafia ware situated on one island, and the fact that it was in his role PM sounds to me like the type of information that scum would get, but not townies.

massive · Post Post #155 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:17 am

Official Vote Count:

Fritzler: 2 (draygn_mage, olio)
olio: 2 (Fritzler, Mr Stoofer)
draygn_mage: 1 (Fishbulb)

5 to lynch.

Mr Stoofer · Post Post #156 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:20 am

draygn_mage wrote:The way my PM is worded, it sounded like the mafia was on one island and the town on another.

I missed that bit of dragyn_mage's post until Fishbulb pointed it out.

unvote: olio
vote: draygn_mage

Fishbulb · Post Post #157 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:24 am

I'm probably going to be dead soon, so no reason to hold back...

Fritzler, did I cross the bridge on Night 1?

Fritzler · Post Post #158 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:36 am

Night 1? Yes. Night 2? No.

Fishbulb · Post Post #159 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:42 am

Well, then CoolBot is definitely scum.

I still want to vote dragyn_mage, but I think this is way too strong to ignore. What does everyone else think?

Fritzler · Post Post #160 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:45 am

But then why did no scum cross my bridge if they are in seperate towns? Maybe a roleblocker. I don't know...

Fishbulb · Post Post #161 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:56 am

Well, there could be more going on here, like a roleblocker. Since we had the serial killer only last night (right?), then he could be placed in the townie village and just the mafia by themselves.

But here's what I know. Mafia on one side, town on the other. I targeted CoolBot night 1, and I crossed the bridge. We can worry about the others later, but for now that seems like a definite.

Unvote: dragyn_mage

Vote: CoolBot

Fritzler · Post Post #162 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:56 am

unvote vote: coolbot

W/E.

CoolBot · Post Post #163 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:24 am

Fishbulb wrote:But here's what I know. Mafia on one side, town on the other.

Are you sure about that? I'm a black market merchant who was kicked out of Astuto years ago due to a scandal. I may live in Umore, but I'm just a townie. My name's Saulo Mercurio, for what it's worth.

Fritzler · Post Post #164 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:27 am

WAIT. In everyone else's pm does it say what town they're in? And I live alone, under a bridge?

Yosarian2 · Post Post #165 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:12 am

It says what town I'm in in my PM.

On the other hand, we do know there are at least some townies in Umore, becasue according to the death scene Polarboy was from Umore.

I know the cat is out of the bag for a lot of you, but everyone should probably stop giving away what town they're from, because that'd make it easier for the mafia to make kills without crossing the bridge, which we don't want.

draygn_mage · Post Post #166 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:14 pm

so now fishbulb was voting me for having a suspicion about where town and mafia are, and was just proven wrong. thank you very much.

If fritzler did indeed get the info right on fishbulb however, then I am wrong about fritzler and apologize.

unvote

that doesn't mean i know who IS mafia though. so i'll keep my vote to my fishy-smeling self for now.

Fritzler · Post Post #167 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:02 pm

unvote vote: draygn_mage

Yosarian2 · Post Post #168 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:18 pm

All right. By my count, that's 4 votes on Draygn_mage, when it's 5 to lynch.

fos:draygn_mage

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Call that a "might turn into a vote soon" fos. DM, if you want to defend yourself, or roleclaim, or anything, the time to do so is now.

Fritzler · Post Post #169 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:19 pm

No that's two. Fishbulb and I both unvoted, then I revoted, making it me and stoofer on dragyn mage.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #170 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:25 pm

Oh, you're right. In that case

vote:dragyn_mage

I just don't like his play today.

Fishbulb · Post Post #171 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:26 pm

draygn_mage wrote:so now fishbulb was voting me for having a suspicion about where town and mafia are, and was just proven wrong. thank you very much.

No. I unvoted for you because of the bridge thing, which it turns out wasn't right. Go back and actually read my post to get the reasons I voted you.

Fritzler · Post Post #172 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:28 pm

Two things.
1. draygn never crossed the bridge night 1, so he could be mafia or sk.
2. Should I reveal who else crossed the bridge night 1, so we have some confirmed "not mafia" people?

Fritzler · Post Post #173 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:30 pm

Oh and on two, it would only confirm one more as not mafia, since we already outed fishbulb.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #174 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:33 pm

How would crossing the bridge night 1 confirm not mafia people? It'd just show who had night actions and targeted someone from the other town; there might be other scum with night actions.